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Lyr Add: Gullible

Q (Frank Staplin) 19 Aug 13 - 11:39 AM
GUEST,leeneia 19 Aug 13 - 06:10 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 20 Aug 13 - 02:34 PM
GUEST,leeneia 21 Aug 13 - 11:05 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 21 Aug 13 - 11:59 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: Gullible
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Aug 13 - 11:39 AM

A remark was made in a recent thread that "gullible" was not in the dictionary, which brought me to a full stop. Pulling down the appropriate volume of the Oxford English Dictionary, the entry for Gullible notes usage by the Scottish historian, Thomas Carlyle, in 1825, in his "Life of Schiller."
The entry does not say anything about the origin of the word, or where Carlyle obtained it.

GULLIBLE
Sung by Jillian Edwards

While it's fresh on my mind
As if it weren't all the time
Has it changed it all
Has it changed it all.

The song you sing
When you think of me
Is it soft and slow
Does it fly and land
Somewhere you want to go
Is it soft and slow
Does it fly and land
Somewhere you want to go.

I wish you were more convincing
Or I wish I were more gullible
Hope that there's no point that I am missing
Hope that it's not just too subtle.
(Repeat four lines)

And now I feel like a fool
For doing what you asked me to
And then you changed it all
So why'd you say
You miss my face
When you never show
Say you're gonna be there
But you never go
No, you never show
Say you're gonna be there
But you never go.

I wish you were more convincing,
etc.

And if it's a picture of me you need
Would you get to taking it
If it's heartache I need
Wuld you get to breaking it
And if it's a picture of me you need
Would you get to taking it
If it's heartache I need
Would you get to breaking it.

I wish you were more convincing
Or I wish I were more gullible
Is there a point that I'm missing
Or is it just too subtle
I wish you were more convincing
Or I wish I were more gullible
Is there a point that I'm missing
Or is it just too subtle.

(Confused?)

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Gullible
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 19 Aug 13 - 06:10 PM

Hello, Q.

I learned some new things when I looked up gullible in my 1956 Webster's. In order by age:

1. gull once meant yellow or pale (I wonder if it's related to 'gold'.)

2. came to mean a young bird or gosling

3. came to mean to fool, deceive or cheat, possibly because young birds are naive

4. gullible comes from the verb to gull, and means 'easily fooled.'
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The song sounds like a new-age country song where somebody seems to be rehashing the latest visit to their therapist.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Gullible
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Aug 13 - 02:34 PM

leeneia, the song made me scringe. (cringe), but I wanted a song with that title. There were 2-3 others, but they were rap and too long.

Maybe I need a therapist because I posted that song.

My 1996 Merriam Webster gives a date of l818 for gullible and the definition "easily duped or cheated." (of course it is older, this is the first printed use known).

Also:
gull 1594, a person who is easily deceived or cheated..
gull vt [obs. gull gullet ..... ca. 1550, to take advantage of one who is foolish or unwary...

These additional entries do not indicate that the word came from the bird, although it is likely.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Gullible
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 21 Aug 13 - 11:05 AM

No, you don't need a therapist just because you posted a song. I was merely commenting on how the songs seem to me.

My idea of a good country song is 'June Apple.'

Q, your references start in 1594. I believe we could forge a chain which goes from 1594 to the present day:

yellow
young bird
foolish
Big Bird (from Sesame Street)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Gullible
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Aug 13 - 11:59 AM

"June Apple" is classic traditional, many different verses added after the first, which is pretty standard.

I haven't heard a vocal that is available, but there are plenty of instrumentals on youtube.

(No therapist required to interpret it)


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