BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 07:40 AM

1001!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 08:03 AM

cleans a big, big carpet...

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 08:18 AM

...for less than half a crown...

Hey, bonkers conkers, you see anger where there is none because, quaintly, you rather like the idea that you've got me goat. Just one of your many delusions, I fear. I never post in anger. Once this stops being fun that'll be the day I stop posting.

Brian the snail...? can we hold a memorial service?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 09:33 AM

Not for Brian. His secretions started the chemical reaction that turned the tank into an opaque white smelly mess in the first place. Even dissolved some of the filter media....

We can hold it for the slightly less ugly pleccy. I liked him (or her.).

Here, associated gnome of wisdom and virtue..... Are you sure tropical fish can't get into a Christian Heaven? It's a bloody good job their heaven is all fantasy then, that's all I can say...   Where did Jesus get enough loaves and fishes from then? I assumed he had post Office Parcels send a few pallet loads down via the pearly gates?

Not much point in having a heaven if you can't meet up with all your past dogs and take them on celestial walkies?   I hereby decree that the true heaven has footpaths, lamp posts, doggy bins c/w a bag dispenser and a few pussy cats to keep the dogs fit.

Oh, and fish tanks.

But no snails.   If they can't keep crapping in a small tank when their population explodes like a ruddy catholic household, they can't come to the true heaven.

Tell you what, we shan't call it heaven. We can come up with another word.

Something that inspires the concept of heaven. Somewhere where the faithful worship with wondrous joy..





Let's call it Hillsborough!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 09:46 AM

Or Anfield, where the only man indisputably greater than God, Bill Shankly, once strode...

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 01:19 PM

tut! tut! shaw, you know the more you rant the more ridiculous you sound..do you really expect anyone to take you seriously when you are engaging with a self admitted troll?

I believe you are fantasying and been turned on by the thought of my unwashed, chocolate-smothered, fish-scented orifices.

You have now added perversion and pornography to your other pseudo horticultural, ginger cake inhabited,centrist, pseudo academic pretensions.

Quite frankly, you have gone past the crayons stage..time to move on to the Vaseline and rubber bag lady..will that float yer boat ducky?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 01:55 PM

Was one of them degrees English as a second language, Conc? What is fantasying?

Oh, and do you actually know the difference between engaging someone in conversation and taking the piss?

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 03:25 PM

This just gets weirder!

Dead fishy snail bum inhabitant ginger cake, anyone?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 03:29 PM

sigh......don't say I have to explain to you little man.. there is no difference between engaging someone in CONVERSATION and taking the piss thicko..

Everyone on mudcat takes the piss out of every one else, even you should know that; if you spent more time reading instead of picking up on small typos you may get the drift.I mean to say you take the piss out of all of us by pretending to be smart don't you?

"Taking the piss is a British term meaning to take liberties at the expense of others, or to be unreasonable. It is often used to mean taking the piss out of, which is an expression meaning to mock, tease, ridicule, or scoff". ... I think nearly all that applies to you one way or 'tother..especially taking liberties with our intelligence!!

Shaw wouldn't even know how to take the piss as you so elegantly put it, he is that far up his own arse with his horticultural pretensions.

cant you see phony, it is ME that is taking the piss out of you lot?

Promise me you will at least try and get with the program.. you are starting to bore me..

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket the missionary man
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 04:11 PM

Hi cuddlybuns! XxxX





Actually co Messiah S. I did think of a role for Anfield. We don't seem to have a purgatory yet. ...

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 06:08 PM

Mwah!. Musket sweety...How is the fish smelling bag lady working out shaw? need any more Vaseline?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 06:33 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzz.....

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Nov 13 - 06:35 PM

cant you see phony, it is ME that is taking the piss out of you lot?

This sounds suspiciously like a desperate appeal (which we've heard several times now) to a congregation that won't wake up. Lemme tell you summat, bonkers conkers. To successfully take the piss out of people, the supposed targets must come to realise that they've had the piss taken out of them and everyone observing must come to realise that a successful piss-take has been executed. You fail epically on both counts. Try something different!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 19 Nov 13 - 03:50 AM

Now then Co Messiah and associated gnome.

About 12 years ago, before meeting Mrs Musket, a girlfriend used to blow kisses to me on emails and texts by using the term "Mwah! "

Errr... This was the one in Knott End. ........

Has our religion managed to beat Christianity to the second coming? ??

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,troll from knott end
Date: 19 Nov 13 - 04:08 AM

Mwah! Mwah! Mwah!.. the flame still burns sweetums xxxxxx

You got it wrong again shithead..the congregation as you put it has copped it self on and realise I am a proper troll..not being up their own arses such as you the stumble-bum gnome( actually in true gnome fashion he has fallen asleep)!

They have either left the thread like seaman staynes or refused to engage with me like the mega fraud wizzjet; that only leaves you and my sweet baby muskett.

Well muskett am the man, so that only leaves one judgmental, ginger woosy, cake inhabitant pseudo horticultural knob-head, who is that arrogant and stooooooooooooooopid he keeps coming back at me........who could that be do yer think fraud? Talking about trying something different have you tried finding a sense of humour?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket musing
Date: 19 Nov 13 - 06:06 AM

I do sincerely hope there wasn't a missing "I" in that first sentence. I try not to do anything that makes my eyes water.

If the flame still burns it would be because a certain someone put all my academic certificates on the fire. And some shares certificates. And before a certain mudcat.org member reminds us, I'll get it in first. . And cut up my clothes with bacon scissors and dumped the rags on the ex Mrs Musket's lawn.....

This co Messiah really knows persecution. No wonder I got the job.

Hopefully you would understand me better my sweetikins xxxx

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Nov 13 - 09:38 AM

pseudo horticultural

Killed any good cherry trees with turf lately?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 19 Nov 13 - 02:24 PM

Muskett...................still loves yer baby xxx!!!

As for you shaw..you begrumpled, cake eating fratchy, ginger inhabited ninny hammer..!! Still showing your superior conversational skills - not!! Bring it all on oaf, you have nearly driven every one away with your buffoonery and your phony horticultural pretensions!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,musket floating
Date: 19 Nov 13 - 03:12 PM

Live the dream lover! xxxxxxxx



This co Messiah really has what it takes eh?

I reckon it's the Liverpool bit. It cramps your style and the sophisticated real ladies such as conc see straight through it.

Best stick to the true heaven in S6 me old Co Messiah. ...

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Musket
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 08:34 AM

Typical. The minute I sign in with my cookie, they all lose interest in the one true religion.

I bet Jesus didn't have to put up with this lack of ruddy enthusiasm....

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 09:31 AM

I temporarily lost interest after last night when I typed a bloody great big long amusing witty post only to see it vanish into mysterious nothingness as I hit the last full stop. I refuse to reconstruct it, but the two themes therein may be summed up as follows:

(a) Conkers is an amusing yet useless twat;

(b) Don't just say God, say Shankly.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 03:54 PM

shaw,due to your self centered buffoonery you have effectively closed downs a superb religious, intellectual discussion   thread,,

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 04:12 PM

Ok. I grudgingly accept that Shankly was a demi God. If you happen to be a scouser with Scottish roots. Ok? (Derek Dooley topped him till his being cast from heaven and being tempted by the pits of hell.)

Conkers is an amusing pastime. Whacking your nuts together with a purpose can be fun. Although if the other person has no nuts, for me all the better.

Hey lover! Can we get this sorted before I start buying you flowers and the occasional milk stout. ... have you got an obvious Adams apple? Not an issue, cosmopolitan man of the world and all that. ... but having driven me to distraction, I need to know if there is a reverse gear. Or indeed a gear knob.... xxx

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,the troll who is not a troll?
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 04:13 PM

I am outa here........by, by, my sweet baby muskett..mwah..mwah!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 04:32 PM

Blimey, conc, make your mind up. First everyone is a pseudo intellectual with ginger cake up their bums. Now you are accusing people of contributing to a "superb religious, intellectual discussion   thread". Still, you still manage to misspell down and bye. Got to be good for a laugh init?

Still, we know that you must really be 'outa here' because we know you never tell lies. Good to have met you.

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Nov 13 - 07:23 PM

Jeez, for one minute I thought you said Adnam's apple there, Had conkers had that I'd have rapidly come to love him or her dearly. Actually, I possibly already do. Don't leave me, twatess!

OK, Bill Shankly, who sitteth on the right hand of the Father, rescued Liverpool and made them into the potential force for the future that they ultimately became. So I buy "demi-god", yeah? But "demi" means "half", innit. So to make a god we need another half, yeah (bit like you an' me)? So Bob Paisley, huh? The giant that became a greater giant having stood on the shoulders of a giant? The god of few words but of many trophies? Can we be quiet about Sheff Wed now, lest I resurrect talk of that mighty night in the 60s when Jimmy Mac and the great Burnley team slaughtered t'Owls in t'FA Cup? At which I was present innit?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 21 Nov 13 - 02:35 AM

False idolatry. You have been tempted by shiny baubles. Trophy cabinets should be austere with the occasional FA Cup from medieval times and the resurrection. (1991 League Cup under the prophet Ron Atkinson. )

Does this mean its over beloved? I never got to serenade you or buy you a bag of chips with scraps. Still, you recognised talent from an early start and that can't be all bad. I notice my co Messiah is making overtures. I can heartily recommend him if you feel you aren't quite up to my standards. Ok, the gob iron recitals may take some getting used to and he wouldn't make a good teacher when it comes to football. ..

Perhaps we can start a thread on what our standards used to be before the ball and chain? Mine were fairly high for a teenage lad living in Worksop. Two tits and a heartbeat.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Nov 13 - 05:48 AM

Nah, we can discuss it here. Intentional thread hijacking (hi, Jack!) is, after all, one of the tenets of the new religion. We can start with advice from the Daily Mash: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/low-standards-key-to-a-good-sex-life-2012090439853
Would have worked well in Worksop.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 21 Nov 13 - 12:45 PM

Every lad in Worksop lived by their famous motto


vade deformis diluculo

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Nov 13 - 07:55 PM

"Illegitimes non friggin' carborundum, nob 'ead" was us Notlob lads' recipe for life.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 03:29 AM

Evolution versus creation?
At the risk of sounding radical, you could always form your own view rather than find comfort in trawling for those that fit your preconceptions?

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 03:51 AM

it is hard not to see the merit in questioning the scientists who would wear their atheism on their sleeves.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 04:44 AM

Nice try Keith.

(I must apologise for the old fool. He gets confused, thinking he is on the armistice day thread. I must have hit a nerve.)

Dear Keith,

I wouldn't know. I'm not an atheist.

Luv &hugs

Musket.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 04:57 AM

Yes, I was quoting Musket on that thread but transposing scientist for historian.

Musket rejects the historians version of that bit of history, and has made up his own.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,troll replacing the troll who is not a troll
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 09:40 AM

Well hello!! just popped in for a little intellectual discourse about atheism and militancy and what do I find?

A lot of self opinionated nonsense and foolish posturing by people who, quite frankly are very C3 in intellect..I may not stay around very long..

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 10:09 AM

Well, Keith, yes you can form your own view but you do better if you look for evidence first. I've trawled around for evidence of creationism long and hard (and had bogus evidence drummed into me all my life) and I can't find any. There is a mass of real-deal evidence for evolution. If there wasn't, maybe I'd toss a coin or something or just not bother. But never assume that someone who has formed what is for them an honest view has got there by partiality. Nearly everyone I know who has decided on creationism has reached it either by brainwashing or by stupidity. If you know of anyone who got there any other way, let's be hearing about 'em.

Do you question scientists who wear their religion on their sleeves? Surely there is far more danger there of inconsistency. At least heart-on-sleeve atheists (who, incidentally, only rattle on about their atheism for fun on these threads, and hardly ever in the real world, so what price "heart-on-sleeve"?) go about their work and their interpretation of God in more or less the same way. A religious scientist has to be rigorous in interpreting evidence in one area of his life and completely eschew evidence in another. That must be hard sometimes. Atheist scientists who actually bother to think much about their atheism can apply the evidence test equally to both God and to their work. Much easier.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 10:16 AM

I may not stay around very long..

Aw, don't go, conkers meduck! You add such lightness to our discourse! Lightness akin to the holes in Swiss cheese or the in-between bits in puff pastry or the bubbles in a Wispa! All of them completely empty of content, but such fun!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 10:16 AM

I agree Steve.
Those were Musket's words, but on the subject of history.

He rejects the experts' (historians) findings and makes up something he finds easier to believe in.

Very much like the religious fundamentalists he ridicules for the same behaviour.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 10:44 AM

Keith has been trawling for historians who say the First World War was well led and the soldiers knew why they were fighting etc.

He rejects the black propaganda, the decisions to sacrifice men in their thousands with their whistles and ladders and the rest of the facts of war.

He then thinks that as I treat articles in The Daily Telegraph and Daily M*il with a healthy pinch of salt. I have no right questioning the bible and other such nonsense.

Buggered if I know what he is on about, but if reckon the idea is to make me look a twat.

Mind you, he says he had belief but doesn't believe. So if you try to question his logic, you'll get nowhere. He'll tell you he is a Christian and it is disrespectful to question his hypocrisy.

At lead he isn't a bad bloke. Round the fecking bend and daft as a brush, but he is harmless enough.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 11:00 AM

you could always form your own view

Did it years ago.

Gnomes first law. When going uphill, the universe expands making the journey longer.

Gnomes second law. When coming downhill the universe contracts making the journey shorter.

Gnomes third law. Oxygen is in short supply. When I was young gnome there was plenty of it and I could breath when I reached the top of a mountain. Many years later I am gasping for breath halfway up and therefore the oxygen must be running out.

Gnomes fourth law. Everyone has a limited number of heartbeats. To increase the heart rate is therefore to accelerate your demise.

Gnomes fifth law. There is no Gnomes fifth law.

Gnomes sixth law. The sun is cold. The higher up a mountain you get, and thereby nearer the sun, the colder it is. Ergo the sun must radiate coldness.

Gnome on creation. People think there are no female Gnomes and we must have, therefore, sprung out of the earth. The truth is there are female Gnomes and even baby Gnomes but as we all have beards and look alike it is difficult for mortals to tell the difference. Not that we indulge in sexual procreation or any other such rubbish. It is all to do with the primal soup in the fish pond. And possibly ducks.

There, everything you needed to know.

:D tG

PS - Conc, how can we ever trust you again now you have gone back on your word...

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 12:05 PM

You forgot Shaw's Law: In any journey made on foot or pushbike that starts and finishes in the same place, the amount of uphill travel will be exactly three times the amount of downhill travel.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 12:08 PM

Either I am forgetting to proof read or this %*#%^!! iPad is using it's suggested words after I press submit....

"At lead he isn't a bad bloke..." When I try giving him the benefit of the doubt, my iPad seems to know better.

Anyway Keith, at least when on the subject of physics versus biblical nonsense, I don't have to look for quotes by others. At a guess without looking, I'd say my published PhD thesis on mechanical vibration contradicts the earth stopping spinning during a biblical war and the arrow of time in entropy, within the second law of thermodynamics prevents either the earth being made in seven days or even Jesus or Lazarus coming back from the dead.

Soldiers in the First World War didn't come back from the dead either, poor misguided buggers.



Hi cuddlebuns! I thought you had stopped posting here? I know I am difficult to forget but hey, The co messiah isn't too bad other than his Liverpool & gob iron fixation and you are safe from the associated gnome as he only likes women with beards, apparently. (I wondered why Betty Swollox had a bounce in her step the other month...)

Howsabout we bake some ginger cakes together some time? I hear you can knead them on a Potters wheel xxxxxx

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 01:21 PM

Hi Messiah S, see Gnomes laws 1&2 - Confirms Shaw's law. Must say, that Shaw's Law alliterates better than Gnomes Law but then again, you are a deity.

BTW - I know a bloke who reckoned he could cycle from Lymm to Worsley and back again going downhill all the way. And it wasn't Conc!

Good candidate for our new religion?

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 03:04 PM

Muskets law. Bikes come with batteries and a powered front wheel these days.

Living in North Lincolnshire has a positive effect on hill issues too.....

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 04:25 PM

Musket, your need to lie about this tells us all we need to know.

"He then thinks that as I treat articles in The Daily Telegraph and Daily M*il with a healthy pinch of salt."
Lie.
A telegraph book review and an essay by historian Sir Max Hastings published in the Mail.
The vast majority of my evidence is from the BBC History site.

"I have no right questioning the bible and other such nonsense."
Complete lie.
I question it myself.
Any thinking person would.

Do look at the Armistice thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 04:42 PM

Do look at the Armistice thread.
Not a mention of the bible!

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket between courses
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 06:02 PM

That's because you are posting on a religion debate thread you daft cunt.

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Nov 13 - 08:10 PM

I know a bloke who reckoned he could cycle from Lymm to Worsley and back again going downhill all the way.

Yebbut he was being allegorical innit...

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Musket between courses
Date: 23 Nov 13 - 02:11 AM

Well. I looked at the armistice thread.

What do I do next?








Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 23 Nov 13 - 02:50 AM

How about "Those scientists should know better" instead of "Those historians should know better" ?