Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams

Subject: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: GUEST,Jacqued
Date: 06 Sep 13 - 10:51 AM

Les Barker imortalised a song/tune with 'Custard Creams'.   I heard the original? 'Jack o'Dreams at Bridlington Folk Club some years ago.   Could anyone tell me the title of the music behind these songs?

Many Thanks,

Ed

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 06 Sep 13 - 11:12 AM

Could the song you are asking about be "John O' Dreams"? There are quite a few versions of this on youtube. Here is one link.

John O' Dreams

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Sep 13 - 11:13 AM

"John o' Dreams" was written by Bill Caddick and the music is adapted from Tchaikovsky. I don't know what piece, but someone else likely will.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Sep 13 - 11:41 AM

Or Here in the Mudcat itself.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Sep 13 - 12:45 PM

In this previous thread Origins: John o' Dreams, Joe Offer said the music was "adapted from Symphony No. 6, Pathetique".

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: GUEST,Jacqued
Date: 06 Sep 13 - 02:38 PM

Many thanks, 'Jack' for 'John' was another senior moment!

Ed

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: Eldergirl
Date: 07 Sep 13 - 02:21 AM

Hasn't the amazing Mr Barker produced "Ron of Dreams" as well? About John's lesser-known brother? Equally hilarious and worthy of note. Good old Pyotr Ilyich being inspirational again..
Sorry, I haven't any further info than this.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 13 - 02:59 AM

interestingly there are youtube videos of Caddick playing this on slide mandola which affects the tune quite a lot in the original.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: Acorn4
Date: 07 Sep 13 - 04:11 AM

The original:-

Pathetique Symphony: first movement

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: Leadfingers
Date: 07 Sep 13 - 05:38 AM

Never seen Bill play a Mandola but here's a Clicky of Bill 'doing' it on Portuguese Guitar

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Sep 13 - 04:56 PM

bill sez it woz orignally an italian trad folk tune

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 07 Sep 13 - 05:37 PM

He used to say, modestly, "This was written by me and Tchaikovsky" ... The instrument is a Portuguese "guitarra ingleses" -- "English guitar".

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Jack o' Dreams
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 14 Sep 13 - 12:47 PM

It was a song I used to do regularly. Many years ago, I had to do a short notice gig with a pianist friend of mine who turned up with the dots to the Pathetique. I can assure you that Bill Caddick's words don't exactly fit the original tune so, at best, it must be treated as an approximation.