BS: Why I am gone

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 08:42 PM

Yeah, Ake, they are...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: gnu
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 08:34 PM

Good lord! A "guest" comes in and personally attacks the siteowner? Fuck me. What an ignorant bunch of complete twats. Trolls and assholes expound their virtues ad infinitum and think the core group of 'Catters who have been here far longer don't see thru their shit veil.

Well. Maybe the throlls and assholes have won?. Me? I am exploring a new strategy. I have even been apprised by some mods I should give it up... stop resisting... give it a try as it might help. Rather than rail against such detracters...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dULOjT9GYdQ... maybe I should just give up and join Spaw and Sev and John and Dan and.... all the others who can't be arsed anymore.

Does that mean I and they gave up and the trolls win? No. What it means is far more that that. I finally understand why they fucked off. This is not a true community anymore. It's a shitfest of trolls. I wish I had all of the money I ever contributed to this site back so I could hold a wake for it. Open bar fer MEMBERS ONLY.

gnightgnu

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 08:32 PM

Are "trolls" all right wingers Bob?
People of left and right can have different views on controversial subjects like abortion, homosexual "marriage", multiculturalism, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 08:17 PM

TIA has more intelligence in her finger nail clippings than a lot of people here with their entire mindless heads...

But with that said, hey, folks can either take the wackos here or they can't... If I have had enough of one or another I just ignore everything they post for a month or two and then chime back in and if they are still as whacked out as the last time go back to ignoring them...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Wesley S
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 08:16 PM

Just so you'll know them when you see them:

Inner Circle

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: akenaton
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 08:04 PM

Well, I've been here a long time, but I've never really worked out how to define a "troll".
Is it someone who posts just to provoke an angry response? If so how does one determine whether they are sincere or not?
Is it someone who posts personal attacks, but vows that they are attacking the opinions not the person?
Is it someone who posts on subjects which contradict the majority view?

I see many very unpleasant people here, who seem to be accepted regardless of their behaviour. I also see people, who appear to be pleasant and tolerant, yet their posts are laced with venom toward those who disagree with their views.....some of the old stagers fall into this category.....what we call a clique, a fortress mentality

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 07:36 PM

TIA, nobody CARES that you are gone, I've been gone for years and nobody even noticed, let alone cared. It's all about the Inner Circle....Max, Mods and Maine-iacs. Trolls are incidental.

Since the minimal moderation favours the trolls, they do get to win more often than not.

Even some of the Old Stalwarts (Spaw, Big Mick, Joe Offer ect) are Seldom Seen, and god forbid MAX should actually check his own site often. After all, he seems to have 'mental problems'.....or whatever.
Oh yes, of course he has a Day Job (don't most of us?) and Other Real Life Problems (don't most of us?) but just WHEN has he really been any sort of Regular around the Cat? Date please....

I gave up caring much a long time ago, but I still check in for some kicks, giggles and laffs. Miz Lizzie and SRS are usually good for a few of those. That is a No Win Game, but they both seem to enjoy it.

Most everyone except herself knows that MLC 'needs help' but she is never going to get it....and has more or less asked to be 'banned'. That won't happen, it would simply Justify her Position....yea, a laff a minute.

I'll keep checking in to see if MC has actually become better or its' old self, but I doubt that.

Ta ta!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 07:27 PM

I'm with Elmore on that. I live in a very conservative area, and I need to practice my responses on the issues so I can answer challenges intelligently and with diplomacy and an open mind. If I am to accomplish anything in my community, I have to know how to deal with right-wingers without insulting them. I can get the insults out of my system by insulting Songwronger here - and we have a number of sincere right-wingers here, and I've tried to learn how to treat them with respect.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Elmore
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 11:44 AM

Actually the trolls on Mudcat are more literate than the trolls on other web sites. Yes, they piss me off, but they serve to strengthen my faith in the correctness of my opinions, and they provoke some brilliant responses from the anti-trolls.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 09:00 AM

Trolls should be ignored, they thrive on our responces.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Wesley S
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 08:41 AM

TIA - Your decision pleases no one but the trolls. You've made them very happy today. In my opinion- it's better to stay and poke fun at the trolls than let them get under your skin.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 07:39 AM

Yeah, TIA, I fully understand where you are coming from... It is disheartening that wacko right wingers seem to have permeated every conceivable vehicle where people communicate... Big media has all but blackballed "liberals"... All we hear is the right wing defining who we are and it does get tiresome hearing and reading these people's boorish and racist garbage but...

...these people ain't squat in the big scheme of things and we will one day look back on these times a the darkest of times... It started with 9/11 and since we haven't had much in the way of fresh air...

Just take some time off, TIA, and come on back when ya' feel like it 'cause ol' Bobert loves ya'...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 05:49 AM

> No need to open it to know who will be the OP - with the same tired, racist, hateful message

Why not just bypass them? You don't have to click any link you don't want to.

There's still a lot of good content here - intelligence, goodwill, information - which you'll be missing out on. As you say, it's easy to spot which threads are gonna be trouble. And avoid them.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: G-Force
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 05:23 AM

The best way to get through life is to just take the rough with the smooth.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: DMcG
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 04:57 AM

I *almost* started a thread called 'Why I am not gone'.

There is, indeed, a much higher level of - what shall we say? assertiveness? vehemence? - in BS than it real life conversations. Some of it is certainly very ill-informed.

But the point is, just sometimes, I'm the one that's ill-informed. And the only way I know of to address that is when someone else let's me know.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: GUEST,Iain
Date: 23 Sep 13 - 04:02 AM

One reason I read the forums is that it is open to all points of view.
There are many statements made that I do not accept, but I see that as no reason to wish to depart. Some statements made actually change my stance on things.
    Surely to see all sides of an argument presented, no matter how provocatively phrased, can only be a good thing?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Elmore
Date: 22 Sep 13 - 11:36 PM

Tia: You said you were gone at 9:54 but contributed to another thread at 10:19. How can we miss you if you won't go away?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I am gone
From: Elmore
Date: 22 Sep 13 - 10:19 PM

Farewell TIA.

Subject: BS: Why I am gone
From: TIA
Date: 22 Sep 13 - 09:54 PM

Because I am following the lead of Azizi.
I love many of you, but the "contributions" of so many new blind haters just make me ill.
Some of them are just ignorant.
Some of them (and you know exactly who you are) have been caught red-handed posting as multiple people.
One of them in particular can be identified just from thread titles - no need to open it to know who will be the OP - with the same tired, racist, hateful message.
I went from participating, to lurking, to now just disappearing. If I wanted to follow the Fox/Breitbart/Drudge blogs, I would. This used to be a haven from such. As an advocate of freedom of speech, I am not going to tell anyone to shut-up. Instead, I will go where I can't hear these assholes spewing.
I will miss many of you, and support you in fighting the good fight.
Cheers and tunes,
TIA