Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning

Subject: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 02:22 AM

Nic Jones is on the BBC One TV breakfast show this morning at 8.40am.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GRex
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 04:31 AM

I saw the breakfast program this morning. A remark made by the presenter highlighted the BBCs attitude towards our folk music.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GRex
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 04:35 AM

Sorry. Pressed the wrong button.

The remark was:- "It doesn't matter that he plays folk music, he transcends that."

          GRex

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 05:58 AM

so you want us to get worked up that some ignoramus thinks that it doesn't matter...

trust me on this one....it doesn't matter that they think it doesn't matter.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 07:13 AM

Are you sure that was the presenter? I thought it was John hegley, but I could be wrong....
Derek

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 07:30 AM

It was John Hegley (whoever he is!)

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 07:45 AM

Not knowing the tone or context of the remark I would have read it as
Nic's playing is folk music and more. A compliment to Nic rather than an insult to folk surely? But I know what you are getting at all the same.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 08:47 AM

John Hegley is a folkie, as well as a performance poet, and has been booked by Islington folk club, so I think it very unlikely that he was dissing folk music...

Kitty

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 12:16 PM

John Hegley is playing Beverley festival next year.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 05:59 PM

It was Sam Carter, actually. Who hates folk, of course.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: SussexCarole
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 06:32 PM

Saw breakfast Tv today.   Wonderful to see Nic and his son.. a chip of the old block!

Brillant stuff

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 06:45 PM

Transcends folk music?he probably meant that it excels or surpasses folk music, these two words have slightly different interpretations, excel can mean surpass or it can mean make pre eminent, we do not know which he meant.Nic jones making folk music pre eminent[distinguished above others in quality] I find acceptable.
The most important thing in my opinion is that folk music appeared on breakfast television, and was performed well by two good performers.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Brakn
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 07:02 PM

Yep it was Sam Carter.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 08:56 PM

It was surely tongue very firmly in cheek?! ( I saw the interview and associated quotes).

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Speedwell
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 05:38 AM

Is this possible to view on BBC iplayer? Can't seem to find it - could you do a blue clicky for that?

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,surreysinger sans cookie
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 08:12 AM

I've just posted a remark to this thread three times ... but nothing seems to have happened .. .testing! (Sorry)

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,surreysinger sans cookie
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 08:17 AM

Strange - that one worked. Back to square one. What I posted previously was the fact that Grex's quote is incorrect. What Sam Carter actually said was "It sort of doesn't matter that he plays folk music; it transcends that. You play it to people who don't have any history of listening to folk music and they're spellbound by it". So in fact it's not a remark about the quality or otherwise of folk music, but a comment about Nic's ability to communicate and connect musically with people. Those are two very different things.

As to the matter of the iplayer, sadly the BBC doesn't normally seem to put Breakfast Time up on that.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 10:37 AM

I tried on i-Player, but, tho Breakfast Time icon appeared in the right place, it said 'not available' below. Don't know why they don't make such a programme available: I should have thought it was what i-Player was for!.

Annoying.

~M~

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 01:16 PM

I was told he will be on BBC Four on Fri night.
(see this)

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,surreysinger sans cookie
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 04:32 PM

Mr Red - correct. It is an hour long programme, and the Breakfast Time interview was specifically to promote the presentation of the film.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: The Barden of England
Date: 27 Sep 13 - 03:32 AM

The Breakfast TV interview is on Facebook so try here https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10153230790980632&set=vb.850170631&type=2&theater

John Barden

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: selby
Date: 27 Sep 13 - 06:11 PM

Just watched the prog quite enjoyed it. Loved the Warwick bit cos we was there!!!!!

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Sep 13 - 06:22 PM

Some lovely guitar sounds from others on there.

But can I simply commit suicide now, burn all my guitars, cut off my fingers and break my arms?

What it the fucking point for lesser mortals?

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 30 Sep 13 - 09:21 AM

Having now watched the Enigma programme, it seems to me that the comment about transcending folk music was made by Sam Carter, and not John Hegley...

Kitty

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Sep 13 - 10:08 AM

The programme was excellent. As a folkie who had never seen him live there was inadequate use of the complete songs. IMNSHO
Though I felt that at times they edited clips about things other than Nic Jones.

It did feel as if they did not have enough usable material so they included connected thoughts. so why....see above.

Richard - you didn't offer to remove your larynx! Or the brain that put it behind, across and generally riding over the beat! (;-}}

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,Tug the Cox.
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 08:35 AM

It was indeed Sam Carter, and in context it simply meant that Nick's music appeals to people who do not profess an interest in Folk Music.

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 09:10 AM

Dear Tug,

It's 'Nic' not 'Nick' Can you not even get the very basics right?

Subject: RE: Nic Jones BBC TV this Morning
From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe
Date: 01 Oct 13 - 09:29 AM

"It doesn't matter that he plays folk music, he transcends that."

It doesn't, and he does. I have plenty of friends who aren't folk fans in the broader sense, but own and love Penguin Eggs and one or two other seminal folk albums. Some music appeals to music fans, and transcends narrow genre barriers. Just as Steig Larsson, for example, appeals to people who don't generally read crime fiction.