Hull Folk Archive

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 08 Jun 15 - 01:51 PM

Drop box should be fine.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 08 Jun 15 - 11:08 AM

As I recall there was no way of transferring the stuff on my stick to another destination so what I believe happened was that the certain person gave me a memory card (as per camera etc)and I loaded the stuff when I got homeand posted it (the memory card) back to him.

So you could well be looking for something that does not exist!

I will try and identify again what I sent and could put it in a drop box if that helps.

Let me know.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 08 Jun 15 - 08:39 AM

Hi Malcolm,
I regret to inform you......that a certain person who posts here has lost (temporarily I hope) the memory stick you sent him. He has been suitably chastised, beaten with a bigger stick and now only has one testicle. We can reimburse you for said stick (memory) and will you please send ME another.

All photos sent to me are now on a memory stick. The Mathers recordings are already digitised and ready to deposit. The other recordings, mainly mine and Frank Bull's are with Fairview currently being digitised. Once this is done Bill and I and anyone who wants to join in will be summoned to go through the initial discs to eliminate unwanted items such as commercial recordings, and then the material to be deposited will go back to Fairview to be finalised, and then into the Archive.

As an inveterate hoarder I agree with your skip anxieties.

The paper material you sent is already deposited in the Archive.
A fully indexed full set of Folk News has also been deposited.

A student has already enquired about using the FU1 Archive in the final year of his degree.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 07 Jun 15 - 09:29 PM

Hi Steve (Gardham)

Any chance of an update on the Archive?

Especially with regard to digitising stuff etc.

Ano Domini waits for no one don't forget.

I really worry at the amount of meaningful material that finishes up in skips these days. A good (if that is the word) example being Kenneth Loveless's collection.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 03:19 PM

Hey, Steve, we're all in the same boat. Some days I have trouble with my own name. Luckily I kept diaries all through the 60s 70s so I have that to jog my memory.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 12:14 AM

Hi Steve - you expect me to REMEMBER STUFF??? I barely remember my own name these days.But,it will be an interesting exercise. Leave is with me.

Regards
Steve

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 05:46 PM

Hi Steve,
If you can find time, a short summary of your involvement in the Hull folk scene with dates, other personnel, gigs etc would be useful. You can either pm it to me or my email is my surname with s added at hotmail.com

All the best.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Steve Sutcliffe
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 07:07 AM

Hi everyone

Steve Sutcliffe here! Now living in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. Haven't played the violin for 30 years ha ha! but thanks for the nice comment Ray. Now playing guitar and singing here but just for fun. Recently got back into it and just bought an expensive Martin guitar for my 60th birthday :-)

Hope you are all well.

Steve

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 22 Mar 14 - 05:32 PM

Everything now set up for the 5th April.

9 a.m to 4.30 a.m. at Hull History Centre lecture room. Refreshments available. Pub next door (The Old English Gentleman). Come and go as you please. Displays of memorabilia to help identify, recordings to listen to, some recorded at Folk Union One in the 60s. Dance teams dancing outside. Meet old friends and chat.

7 till 10.30 Ceilidh with local bands and callers. Song/music spots.
At Endsleigh Mercy Centre Hall, Beverley Road, on the left past Haworth Arms. Plenty of parking. Eateries just opposite the Haworth.
Bar available.

PM me with any queries.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 02 Mar 14 - 02:51 PM

The only date that the Centre can manage for the Reunion that corresponds with when the Steering Group members are available is Saturday 5th April so that is now the date for the reunion.

The event will simply be a meeting point to look at artefacts, meet old friends and bring in material and identify photos, recordings etc. At the moment we are planning to have stalls for each organisation represented displaying photos, ephemera etc and 2 areas of recordings, one for CDs already digitised and the other for reel to reel. We hope to have tea/coffee available, but as the event is to run 9 am to 4.30 pm visitors can come and go as they please and there are plenty of eating places in the vicinity. We don't have free parking unfortunately but we can advise on this later on.

We are still looking for a relatively cheap venue not too far away to hold a ceilidh in the evening. We hope there will be no shortage of musicians and callers who will give their services free to form the band. We will be selling tickets on the day but performers will obviously not require these. We will keep the tickets as cheap as we can but we will need to ticket to regulate numbers attending so we don't exceed the venue capacity.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 06:10 PM

Hi Karis,
Many thanks for getting back in touch. I'll add you to the list of contacts now and email you.

Steve

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Karis Bishop nee Sheppard
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 02:59 PM

Oh what memories!of the Bluebell and the dance teams. I'm still alive and kicking (well hobbling)to much Ladies Rapper and Sword at Whitby Folk Festival in years gone bye - when Ladies we're not supposed to be involved, except as beer fetchers. Let me know about the re-union although mention of 5th April is not an available date for me. I have some photos of various 'events' and I still have my Folk Union One LP and lots of wonderful memories

[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:53 AM

Just had a meeting with the archivist at Beverley Treasury House and they are keen to have anything from the East Riding, particularly Beverley FF so I have passed this on to Chris Wade. What we will probably do is include as much as possible in the Hull Folk Archive and then duplicate anything relevant to East Riding for the Treasury House.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,another ull lad
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:43 AM

And who say's there's no Culture in Hull!

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 05:32 PM

Thanks, Dave
We are a bit light on pre-1966 info. Even just knowing when Pete left would be useful.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Dave E
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 04:46 PM

Pete Ogilvy I can probably reach. I'll tell him all about it. Valuable since he was an original Waterson - even before John.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 02:14 PM

Thanks again for the refresh.

Slowly getting through contacts. Having trouble contacting Steve Jewitt as the number in the phone book is wrong.

Yes, we need to know more about Pete Ogley.

Date not fixed for reunion yet but we're hoping for 5th April.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 11:42 AM

Pete Ogilvy is that the correct name and not Pete Ogley (probably wrong but?)

Ray

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Willa
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 10:42 AM

Time for a reminder!

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Willa
Date: 18 Jan 14 - 07:30 AM

Refresh

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 03:11 PM

Ta, Willa.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Willa
Date: 13 Jan 14 - 09:58 AM

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 02:34 PM

Ta, Paul.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 01:05 PM

Here's an attempt at the blue clicky –
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hull-Folk-Archive/631775036882938?ref=hl
don't forget to give us a 'like' when you visit!

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 12:32 PM

Forgot to mention, thanks to Paul and Liz Davenport of our steering group we now have a presence on Facebook. When you find us if you click on the 'about' you should get a more detailed description of what we are up to.

Blue clicky anyone?

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 12 Jan 14 - 12:30 PM

Just a refresh to let you know we held our inaugural meeting of the steering group and have split the group into responsibilities for different areas such as sessions, folk clubs, dance groups, publicity, etc.

Les, I'd certainly like to take you up on your offer but I'll see you soon anyway.

We have agreed to make the archive chronologically unlimited, so we go back to at least to the 17thc and bang up-to-date.

We have to place some restrictions on geographical area covered for sake of our sanity. At the moment this is still under negotiation whether we limit it to Hull or include the surrounding areas. That's up to the clubs themselves and the 2 main repositories, Hull History Centre and Beverley Treasury House.

What constitutes 'Folk'? Well we've agreed to try to include the widest remit, but for items on the fringe we won't be doing much chasing ourselves, but will accept offered material.

If anyone (in Whitby?) has a contact number for Col Jewitt that would be very helpful. I know where he is but haven't got a visit to Whitby booked till the nice weather returns.

We are currently looking at April 5th or 12th for the reunion, and hopefully about 6 months away for gathering material and making a block deposit.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 07 Nov 13 - 08:13 PM

Shock there!

I knew about Richard and Dave but didn't know Steve was no longer with us.

He were nobbut a lad!

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 07 Nov 13 - 11:44 AM

A couple to contact via medium - Richard Wastling, Dave Gurevitch, and Steve Snowden. Fond memories of all.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 28 Oct 13 - 03:03 PM

Thanks again, you 2.

It'll all come flooding back when I see the photos. The invaluable info at the moment is going to be dates and who. I haven't been through my old diaries yet. I'm currently indexing the full set of Folk News and that's bringing back a lot of memories c1975-2010. I'll start setting up some time lines when I've finished this valuable resource. The club minutes will also need indexing at some point with at least local talent and guests separately.

A couple of years down the line and another useful project will be encouraging other regions to set up similar projects if they haven't already done so.

Another useful addition will be setting up a Facebook site which would probably reach a lot more people. Unfortunately I'm not on Facebook, nor do I want to be. Youtube?

I think I'll be able to entice Martin in. He's already aware of the project and in a roundabout way his dad started it all off by donating his tapes.

Cheers,
Steve

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: r.padgett
Date: 28 Oct 13 - 01:00 PM

refresh

Ray

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 27 Oct 13 - 06:01 PM

Hi Steve

Steve Sutcliffe was at Hull University and spent his first year teaching himself fiddle before knuckling down to earn his degree.

He was at various times with the showband we took to hospitals etc as well as shows at various schools, village pubs and the like. As well as being a member of Custer's Last Band for a while.

We always referred to him as Oscar (from the group name) and I'm surprised you don't recall Sue Banks as she was also around a lot at that time (small but perfectly formed). She could well have been at the uni also.

I'm sure Martin Bull will have lots to add but apparently he keeps running away to sea!?

cheers

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 27 Oct 13 - 05:40 PM

Hi Ray/Malcolm

What was the Hull connection with OTF? I remember them being around Hull at some point. Bill has already filled me in on some of the personnel. My recollection is of a singing group, not so much a ceilidh band but then my memory is very selective.

Not sure about permathreads but that looks like a good idea in this case.

Just got back from a reunion with members of our old group from the 60s, The Lowlanders, in County Durham. The other 3 members, John Gall, Des Whiting and Ken Canfield now spread around the country. They're all keen to contribute memories and come to a full reunion in April. We're looking at a Saturday in April, possibly at the History Centre with a ceilidh on the night at the Blind Inst if it's still operational. I'll try to avoid any big festival dates.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: r.padgett
Date: 27 Oct 13 - 03:45 AM

Oscar the Frog was group from Barnsley and had at various times Steve Sutcliffe (now resident in the Phillipines) Steve was the main man with the group emerging from Holgate Grammar school Barnsley and had Steve Linstead (now Professor at Univ York in Management), Dave "Harry" Lauder on Keyboards, Sue Banks (from Barnsley)on English concertina (she had been a member of the Radcliffe Stout Band at some stage!) all still alive! One or two others also

Caller was Dave Malkin and Steve S could call also

Ray

ps Steve Sutcliffe was/is a v good fiddler with a keen ear for tunes and I think plays in the bars int Phillipines (I have him on fb)

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 26 Oct 13 - 08:25 PM

Refresh

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 25 Oct 13 - 10:56 AM

Silly me should have refreshed today

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 24 Oct 13 - 04:27 PM

Hi Steve

Judy and I are in the Ardenne at the moment having spent Judy's significant birthday in Brugge. What an amazing place!

Glad that things are moving forward and this will save you refreshing for at least one day.

What's the bizzo on the perma threads BTW??

cheers

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 24 Oct 13 - 02:46 PM

Last refresh and then I try a new tactic!

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 23 Oct 13 - 05:31 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 10:26 AM

Thanks, Willa.

Had another meeting with Paul Leaver at the History Centre. In answer to some of your questions.

Commercial material such as BBC recordings. The problem here is with copyright. However he will check again with his superiors; if the material is scarce and no longer available they might be able to get round this.

Whilst I'm on copyright it needs making clear who will hold copyright on all of the material so if you wish to retain copyright to such as photos donated you need to make this clear. I imagine most of us will simply be glad to have the material all safely deposited in one place without worrying too much about copyright.

Malcolm,
He is asking his superiors about your request to bring material to be copied and will let us know ASAP.

The material is to be sorted initially according to institutions being archived, i.e., Folk Union One, Rugby, Green Ginger Morris, etc.

I have a copy of their terms of deposit which can be discussed at the first get together of the steering group.

He is talking about a joint lottery bid to pay for such as digitisation, but this will be further down the line.

Once the material is well under way we will give musical performances at the Centre and and presentations on some of the material. I have already offered a presentation on East Riding folk songs we collected in the 60s and 70s.

There are no limits to the amount of material but such as banking statements etc will be shredded as the actual account books are all in order and present.

They can't take actual artefacts like the costumes and wall decorations but he suggested once we tell Hull Museums the Centre is taking all of the documents Museums should be able to take the artefacts, but if not we could look at the Club Museum on Humber Street.

They are happy to host a reunion gathering some time in the spring, say April, and I will try to fix a date with them, possibly a Saturday.

As I said previously, my priority now is contact details of possible donors/informants. If you can help with this either email me or pm me. 2 priority people I am lacking contact details for are Don Wilkinson (a rough address would help) and Col Jewitt. He has his boat Celia B at Whitby but I need an easier contact such as Stevie's phone number or email address.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Willa
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 07:17 AM

hup

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 19 Oct 13 - 09:25 AM

I'm sure that would be fine, thanks, Malcolm. Again I'll bring this up with Paul on Tuesday. Meanwhile, if you can be gathering together all you have that you think would be useful and can bring in one go that would be great.

Thanks for the offer, Les. We will definitely take you up on this at some point when we are more organised and have a better idea of quantity.

Also a reminder that contact details for people who are likely to be off my radar would be very useful. You can email or pm these to me. I have lots of old telephone numbers but not that many email addresses. I will put out a round robin email when I have had Tuesday's meeting.

The thread on Barry Nettleton was useful, particularly Rick Welton's posting. Is there a thread on John Sheridan or Mike Chapman?

Here are a few names from the past that I have lost touch with: Some may no longer be with us.
Pete Ogilvy
Bernie Vickers
Dougie and Chip
Karris Sheppard
John Ross (=Peter .......)
Alan Bleasdale (=Laurie Russell)
Group: Oscar the Frog
Sue and Gordon Madden
Gill Soar
and countless others.

One very useful document would be a handwritten or typed account of anyone's personal involvement in the Hull folk scene over the years, with emphasis on what event(s), who, where, when.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 18 Oct 13 - 06:34 PM

Hi Steve

I have had a couple of postings disappear - annoying aint it?

I would not feel happy letting my originals out of my possession (no disrespect but more than a couple of things have gone missing in the past) but am quite prepared to come through to Hull and do the job myself if that is permitted.

cheers

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Les from Hull
Date: 18 Oct 13 - 12:09 PM

'Twas I above - I'm on me mobile fern.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Oct 13 - 11:14 AM

I can scan photos and slides and digitise vinyl and cassettes if needed. But not all at once please! I'm useful at 'improving' these media as well but don't tell everyone. Oh damn, I just did!

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 18 Oct 13 - 10:51 AM

Another disappearing posting! Grrr!

I think the History Centre being very new will have all the up-to-date gear. We would need to borrow your originals to copy. I will broach this with them on Tuesday when we meet up to discuss the finer details.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 09:20 PM

Steve

Just a thought.

I have lots of photographs and slides pertaining to folk in Hull.

What I do not have is a high end scanner to make these available to the archive.

Would it be possible to persuade one of the educational institutions or even a commercial outfit to make equipment accessible in order to facilitate this?

cheers

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 17 Oct 13 - 02:41 PM

I need to keep this thread alive as I know there are other Hull folkies out there who haven't spotted this thread yet. So Refresh.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 16 Oct 13 - 02:42 PM

Another useful service this forum's members could provide is contact details for anyone involved in the Hull folk scene in the past who might have wandered off the radar. The past doesn't just mean the 60s 70s. It could be any time in the past.

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 15 Oct 13 - 11:14 PM

keep it active

Subject: RE: Hull Folk Archive
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 15 Oct 13 - 05:56 AM

Derek - people did pay good money to see me as St George - enough in fact to provide our beer money for our (newly traditional) Christmas Eve Mumming performances in the pubs of what is known in Hull as the Old Town.
We actually did the play on table tops in one particular pub in order to have enough room.

Steve - I thought you meant the journals but merely mentioned that there was a full set of Child belonging to the club. Martin Bull probably knows what happened to some of the stuff.

cheers

Malcolm