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Subject: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 11 Nov 13 - 04:29 AM I know I'm not the only 'Catter with a MyOpera site - kat recommended it to me because she used it & knew others who used it & Mudcat even has one! Hello, Joe - did you know it was going? Important announcement about your My Opera account When My Opera was launched as a support forum in 2001, it quickly became an important place for us to meet with you. We had so much great interaction with you that we wanted to do more with our forums and our community. In 2006, we had a silly but fun idea. "What if we put our forums on steroids? Let's build a site where you can blog, share photos and add each other as friends." At that time, there were no good services for what we wanted. We decided to build it ourselves. We saw My Opera grow into a passionate community site. For us, this whole idea of giving you a place where you could blog and share photos turned into an interesting, and very large, side project. Over the years, we've seen social media and blogging sites pop up, which offer more and better features than we could possibly maintain. These offerings are their sole business. You all know their names and you probably use their services already. The explosion of these sites and the amount of resources we need to maintain our own service has changed our outlook on My Opera. We have made decision to shutdown My Opera as of March 1, 2014. That's four months from now. We want to give you enough time to move to a new service and to think of what do with your content. To make this as smooth as possible, we've made two tools to help you maintain your blogs and photos. You can preserve all your content with two simple steps: (click on clicky for rest of message & a zillion comments) I've been reading thru the comments & found a few gems among the chaff & s**t & my techo friends are advising me about moving my photowebsites. The biggest gem was from the member who has 'already followed the instructions given in the OP's post on archiving and downloading my files and photos. It was easy. Took me about twenty minutes to get everything. I've stored all my photos as a zip file on my hard drive and will back them up later. The same can be done for our blogs and our mail. Just follow the links that were given. The explanations are easy to follow'. Other gems were from folks like me who did not know it was happening - all I do is use the photowebsite option, I never look at the home page or the forums, & as I don't use their email or blogs I can easily miss important stuff like this post. Many of the comments were not helpful - some folks worlds & lives are ending cos of the closure ... sandra (pondering upon photowebsites - any recommendations?) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Nov 13 - 09:12 AM That should take care of the last of the troll's stash of commingled mudcat and softcore porn. There are accounts that MyOpera "closed" but didn't disassemble, so they turn up only on a Google search as a thumbnail. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:26 AM Oh, PHOO! I get all ensconced in a site that works and they stop it. Suggestions for a place that is not purely for 'social media' and which doesn't bombard me with 'suggestions' for sharing and try to sell me stuff on the side will be appreciated. I want a place that just lets me divide images into categories and upload easily to them like this. I don't want or need the site making decisions for me or embroidering MY design with extraneous crap. All I used to have was a storage site from my ISP with FTP connections, but Verizon doesn't seem to even have the concept. 4 months, huh? We'll see... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:40 AM Picasa has a web storage component along with the indexing strength (I love that - if there is something I can't find I pull that up and skim the collection.) Flickr (a part of Yahoo) now has a robust 1T (yes, 1 terabyte) of free space per account. If you pay for the service (about $25 a year) you don't get ads. And Yahoo is trying to Googlefy itself lately so the site is really picking up as far as how it works. I used to use Photobucket for hosting photos but they've gotten stingy in how they operate now, and may finally convince me to switch everything over to Flickr. Years ago I started out with a Yahoo photo album, illustrating that what goes around comes around. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 11 Nov 13 - 11:09 AM Photobucket works well for me hosting some of my pics. It's free. Example (slideshow) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: ranger1 Date: 11 Nov 13 - 11:17 AM I've been using Flickr for years and I like it enough that I pay the $25 a year for a pro membership. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 11 Nov 13 - 11:21 AM I see nothing except arrows and a few symbols on Peter Laban's link. ..and doesn't Flickr demand cookies and/or Javascript to see or use it? All MyOpera required was a password for ME to upload or edit it. I know... I may have to accept tracking or ads in order to get anything usable.... doesn't mean I have to like it. (gonna ask at my freeware newsgroup to see what they recommend) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 11 Nov 13 - 11:29 AM 'I see nothing except arrows and a few symbols on Peter Laban's link.' If you, temporarily, allow 2 javascripts all will be revealed. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 11 Nov 13 - 11:40 AM I have turned off my javascript blocker and enabled javascript in one of my **Opera** browsers. I assume there in a remnant of a site-specific block of javascript deep in the preferences. I really wish sites did not feel they had to require javascript...but...*shrug* I will try again later with one of my numerous other browsers.(I actually prefer Opera for most things, but have recently been playing with PaleMoon (Mozilla clone/variant)..but I have to go to my other PC to use it, as this one has 'issues') thanks |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 11 Nov 13 - 11:52 AM I generally use Firefox (with all the script, ad and tracker blocking add ons). I enable javascripts from two sites to use Photobucket and it works well then. I tried the link in opera (17) just now and it works fine. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 11 Nov 13 - 12:15 PM Okay...it did work in PaleMoon-(after I allowed both cookies (temp) and javascript (temp). I will consider it.. but I would seldom use the slideshow option. I see one can browse just the albums & thumbnails, which is my preferred setup. Going to investigate Flickr and a couple others before I go to the trouble of moving everything. Thanks Peter |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Nov 13 - 12:46 PM Photobucket used to work better than it does now. It offers up code to post a photo, but now it is encumbered with the photobucket frame and access to your other photos (or so how I've found it on several occasions lately). They also reduce the upper size of the photo so you can't link to a size larger than something like 1026px wide/tall. If you put up full-size images the only way people can see them that way is if they download it. Pb hasn't stepped up to the line that Yahoo/Flickr has drawn in the sand. Maybe someone will buy and and open it up more, but while I used to host a lot of stuff in Photobucket, now I rarely do. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 11 Nov 13 - 04:00 PM I just discovered I have a note from myself to try this one. (Mejuba) It sure sounds good. Gotta go out tonight, but will investigate it tomorrow. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 11 Nov 13 - 10:56 PM thanks for all your comments. Bill - you are saying what I was saying - I don't want a community, all I want is a good, easy to use photo site!! this is the email I sent to my techy friends I don't want to use Google+ so I just tried my favourite search - 'forums on google+' but it just gives lots of google forums - I want independent advice. Google+ is the new facebook - but I just want photo albums. I already ignore friend requests & polls & other such crap. Wikipedia list of photo sharing websites I have several gmail addresses & am pi**ed off at the way Google has updated their "service" & picasa is owned by google I also have a yahoo address that I had to get to join a list & don't like their upgrades, either & flickr is owned by yahoo. All those internet sharks gobbling up other services & stuffing them up! thread about using flickr Yes, but use it. No generic web gallery is what I would call very good, I would say it is adequate. Bespoke is the way to go, but of course more costly and time consuming. Flickr does have a myriad of addons to choose from such as Flickrriver and Fluidr which can make the viewing of images slightly more pleasurable and somewhat akin to Pbase and other sites. flickr allow too few pictures and hope for too high a subscription. I prefer photobucket which lets me customise background as well. Webshots is no more. Time to start exploring... Why I use Flickr from Wikipedia - Photobucket offers free and subscription based (Plus) accounts. Free account users receive 2GB of storage for photo and video uploads, 10GB of bandwidth per month for sharing and linking, and unlimited access to Photobucket's editing, slideshow, and Story features. Plus accounts are structured into storage tiers and offer unlimited bandwidth, use of site features, and an advertisement free experience. How stuff works - photobucket Creata a photobucket album Pros & cons - Photobucket It is one of the best online image hosting sites around as long as you do not need to order prints online. (can't see why I would ever want to - so it's not a minus to me) a Photobucket album - looks like an album, unlike flickr sets As you can see I was inclining towards photobucket but now I dunno more comment, please sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 11 Nov 13 - 11:10 PM Kat's family might also need to migrate her account to another site. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Joe Offer Date: 12 Nov 13 - 02:18 AM Hi, Sandra - Thanks for letting us know. Kat set up a MyOpera page for Mudcat photos, and I've been operating it. We have links to photos in lots of threads, and I can't imagine how I'll be able to correct them when we move elsewhere. A couple of years ago, I got a Network Solutions Website that I use for supplemental materials for Mudcat. I suppose I can figure out a way to display Mudcat photos there. Please remind me AGAIN when it's closer to shutdown time for MyOpera. I tend to get involved in things that distract me. Today it was grant writing for a nonprofit I work with. Oh, it was awful... -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 12 Nov 13 - 05:05 AM yet another problem - I've also put links to my pics in threads here & on another forum ... waaahhhhhh!! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 12 Nov 13 - 09:33 AM Oh yes, Sandra... scattered thru Mudcat are links to 2-3 older places I used to use- including a Comcast FTP storage site.... Now & then I repost a link in the current place... if I can identify the image and still find it on my computer. BTW- the Mejuba site 'seems' to be ok... It does require cookies and Javascript to upload & edit, but you can create and name different albums to suit. We shall see as I get some stuff from MyOpera transferred there. I'll post links here when there's enough to show. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 12 Nov 13 - 05:25 PM Mejuba Mejuba google search on Mejuba problems Mejubsa is not in the tables, but mentioned in the comments |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Nov 13 - 05:54 PM I'm glad you found good info about Photobucket. The last change they made was off-putting for me. I suppose the thing to do is pay to use it and get all of the old functionality back. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 13 Nov 13 - 01:00 AM Joe - it might be a good idea to follow this advice from from my initial post, that way you would have your own copy safely in your holdings. ... already followed the instructions given in the OP's post on archiving and downloading my files and photos. It was easy. Took me about twenty minutes to get everything. I've stored all my photos as a zip file on my hard drive and will back them up later. The same can be done for our blogs and our mail. Just follow the links that were given. The explanations are easy to follow ... Stilly - Phhotobucket subscription prices I hate making decisions! sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 14 Nov 13 - 06:52 AM 'Stilly - Phhotobucket subscription prices' Photobucket is effectively free, unless you are going to store a very large amount of material and will generate very high traffic. For the way I use it I have never gone over using a few percent of the allowed free storage or bandwith, even when I was generating 25-30K hits a month. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Nov 13 - 04:21 PM The difference between paid and free is how large they allow the image to be if you post a link to it. A free account doesn't get to link to any size, they are limited. For many years as a eBay user I hosted my images in Photobucket because I could to the web html layout myself and then a thumbnail photo appeared in the auction listing but if they clicked on it it could open as a huge photo and they could get a very close look at the item in the listing. Then Photobucket restrained the size of the image that the link would open - only about 1024px wide, keeping it smaller than intended. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 18 Nov 13 - 08:13 PM Bill D has a bright shiny new Mejuba page And I've just realised how much work I'll have changing sites I have 23 albums on my personal site, 29 albums on my folk club site, 51 albums on my other folk site which is part of the historical archive of that organisation, & 23 albums on my 4th site. All albums have lotsa' pics I could probably give the 4th site (the smallest one) to the webmaster of that organisation (hollow laugh!) but the others ... aggggghhhh! I need to talk to my Personal Help Desk & my other very techy mate. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 18 Nov 13 - 08:46 PM To add to my PM...go to the 'files' page when you are logged into MyOpera and they give you instructions for downloading all your stuff as zip files. That 'may' help you get started on moving your stuff ....agggggghhh, indeed! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 18 Nov 13 - 08:49 PM Well, now it says I have a zip file called 'main' of 176.8 MG.... so maybe they do what they say. I'll report on what it looks like after I download it. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 18 Nov 13 - 09:31 PM maybe I'm worrying too much? Does the next link mean each album can be uploaded as an entirety? How do I download all the files I've uploaded to My Opera? The files export will create a .zip archive of any files listed in your account's 'Files overview', as well as images in your albums. Your images can then be uploaded to Flickr, Google+, Photobucket, Fotki, or other photo sharing sites. When I clicked on the link to Google+ I was directed to my own gmail sign on page - so I didn't get any useful info (how strange, how very google+) The Fotki link is to a useless (to me) site Clicking on the Flickr link does not offer any help, just sign up. but clicking on the photobucket link gets this - Uploading With Photobucket ... Bulk Upload - The Photobucket Backup, for Windows and Mac. An awesome piece of software that will allow you to automatically back-up images saved on your computer ... Google Chrome users can also upload whole folders of images sigh |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 19 Nov 13 - 10:18 AM I am too overwhelmed with craft show prep to try much with all that until mid-December. The Photobucket 'bulk upload' sounds promising..... who knows, I may end up with 3 sites to see what I like. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 19 Nov 13 - 08:37 PM Ok... I did download the zipped file from MyOpera, and it looks like they did give me everything- at least the names of the files are there and I checked a couple images. The folder names just numbers, so one would need to look into them, compare them with the albums and rename them for easy manipulation and re-uploading to another site. I suppose many thousands of folks are doing this, as download time is pretty slow..(10-12 minutes for my 178 MGS)... but I now have my albums 'ready' when I get time. It is just the images... none of the comments or remarks, but I suppose that's all I could expect. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Nov 13 - 02:06 AM Well, I'm wondering where to put the Mudcat photos from the MyOpera Page that Katlaughing set up. There was never a way to manage the photos at Mudcat and then there were various problems with Mudcat photos, so katlaughing set up the MyOpera page and gave me access. I had trouble with sending MIDI files to Mudcat by FTP, so I finally broke down and bought my own Website from Network Solutions, joe-offer.com, to serve mostly as a supplement to Mudcat for things people wanted to post that didn't work on Mudcat itself. I have the MIDI files there, and Jon Freeman's folkinfo.org Website, and a few other things. Is there any reason why I shouldn't move the Mudcat MyOpera photos to my Website? Is there anybody who would like to manage Mudcat photos? I can give you FTP access to photo space on my Website, and you can play with it however you like. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 20 Nov 13 - 05:17 AM sounds like a good idea, Joe & sorry, but I'm not offering to help you - if you've read my post of 18 Nov 13 - 08:13 PM you will see I have a gi-normous job to deal with my very own MyOpera accounts! has anyone contacted kat's family to see if they want to move her MyOpera account? sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 20 Nov 13 - 10:04 AM Well.... it's a pretty small page, Joe. I don't think it makes a lot of difference where you put it....unless you/we intend on adding a lot of pics at some point. I'm not sure how Kat chose pics to put up. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 20 Nov 13 - 07:06 PM Bill - Catters could send pics to Joe for him to post. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 21 Nov 13 - 03:52 AM correction - Catters CAN send pics to Joe for him to post. ============= I've just realised that a photographer's site which I have bookmarked so I can drool over his beautiful photos is a (photographer's) photo sharing website from SmugMug. They have a $40 account for the ordinary photographers who does not want to sell their work & professionals can spend up to $400 pa. SmugMug Revamps Its Site, in a Challenge to Flickr If's far more than I need (or any of us need?) but it's good to know it exists & add it to this thread on photowebsites. As a bonus the same author has cast his eye on The new flickr |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Nov 13 - 01:28 PM Well, so I think I did what I'm supposed to do to Zip the Mudcat photos. I got an e-mail telling me the Zip file was ready for download, so I followed the link and went to the "files" page. Then they wanted to verify my e-mail address to re-activate the account. So, then I went back to the files page and there's this message:
If you want to export your files to the zip format again, please wait 24 hours. And there below are two directories, the root directory and the files directory, and there's a "delete" link for the files directory. But I don't see a link to the zip file. Can anybody talk me through this? -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 21 Nov 13 - 04:31 PM egads, if I get the same message when I zip my files, I'll need my Personal Help Desk here with me! He won't be able to say he's too busy. I eagerly await the answer of one of our techy Catters. sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Bill D Date: 21 Nov 13 - 06:41 PM Hmmm... I never got the promised email... I just waited several days, then went and logged in & looked under the 'files' click... and it was there named 'main.zip'. Ah.... it might be that I never told them when I changed from Comcast to Verizon.... so I didn't get email, but was still able to log in with user name & password. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 23 Nov 13 - 10:43 AM today I had 3 separate conversations with the webmasters of the other 3 sites I run. 2 of the websites have large capacity & will fit the photowebsites! And have space to spare!! My folk club's webmaster also runs a facebook page for the club (which I never go near as I don't like facebook) & said the pics could also go there. Which of course I won't go near so will still want a proper photowebsite for the club. I don't want photos I've taken on facebook. And I certainly would not want to add them each time I take a new lot. So life could be a bit easier with only 2 photowebsites to transfer to another site! or maybe not sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 28 Nov 13 - 02:21 AM yesterday I needed to put a new album on one of my sites & saw a message when I clicked on upload - Important Announcement regarding your My Opera account. But it was only visible in edit mode, so some occasional users might still not know about the changes coming. only 3 months left to move everything! sandra |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: JohnInKansas Date: 28 Nov 13 - 04:15 AM A general note on posting pictures on websites: There are at least two different kinds of web places where you can put photos. a. An "archive" site where you can place your picture, and can later retrieve the same image file. These are a lot rarer than most people assume. b. A "sharing" site where you can post your pictures so that others can see them. In most cases, on sites of this kind, the image you send is shrunk, compressed, sometimes changed to another format, and otherwise mangled so that while it looks okay in a browser what you can retrieve is not the same image you sent for posting. We posted festival pictures on Smugmug (mentioned above) for several years, and when we decided to drop the subscription I tried retrieving some of the images. They were all "standardized for the site" to the extent that I considered them "unusable" and gave up retrieving more than enough to show that they weren't even close to what we sent to be posted. We had saved our original images, and the edited images we sent for posting, so there was no loss of images; but we didn't bother trying to retrieve all the clever annotations Lin had added on the site. (Some of her best creative hallucinations?) A "migration" from one web site to another may or may not just copy the files on the original site to identical files on the new one, but since the two sites may have different ideas about file sizes, resolutions, compression, and the like you probably shouldn't just assume that they'll stay the same, or that they can be "retieved" from either site. Just as there are well known rules for "safe sex" (often ignored) there are rules for "safe imaging" (even more often ignored). Even if you choose to take risks, it's better to know at least some of the rules. And if you plan on migrating, it would be a good thing to get it done while there's still time to figure out what to do about anything that doesn't work as expected. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: ragdall Date: 28 Nov 13 - 07:30 AM I find Photobucket more awkward than it used to be, but I still use it for images that require direct links, such as the avatars on a message board that I facilitate. Flickr underwent a big change a few months ago which drove many users to Ipernity which seems more like the old Flickr. It's my understanding that there will be no new pro accounts on Flickr. They want to display ads to everyone. My pro account is grandparented and I gladly pay the $25/ year to archive and share my 17,000+ ad-free images there. rags |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 28 Nov 13 - 08:55 AM Google search on 'forums about Ipernity' one of my techy friends has suggested using Wordpress |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 20 Jan 14 - 07:51 AM how's it going? I now only have 3 accounts to move as the webmaster of my 4th account has zipped the files (or whatever MyOpera calls it) & is putting the pics on the website. YAH!
[Closing this for now due to it being refreshed for spam- will reopen later. Or maybe a new thread is in order.] |
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Subject: RE: Tech: MyOpera photowebsite shutting down 2014 From: Mr Happy Date: 21 Jan 14 - 09:11 AM I don't get the last 3 posts, what sort of thread drift is it? |
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