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Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.

Bert 13 Nov 13 - 01:25 AM
SteveMansfield 13 Nov 13 - 01:50 AM
GUEST 13 Nov 13 - 02:11 AM
Joe Offer 13 Nov 13 - 02:47 AM
GUEST 13 Nov 13 - 03:29 AM
GUEST 13 Nov 13 - 04:32 AM
Rapparee 13 Nov 13 - 09:25 AM
GUEST,Stim 13 Nov 13 - 10:18 AM
EBarnacle 13 Nov 13 - 10:30 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 13 Nov 13 - 12:16 PM
GUEST,Grishka 13 Nov 13 - 12:42 PM
dick greenhaus 13 Nov 13 - 01:04 PM
Bonzo3legs 13 Nov 13 - 01:57 PM
Greg F. 13 Nov 13 - 02:48 PM
Newport Boy 13 Nov 13 - 04:32 PM
GUEST,kendall 13 Nov 13 - 07:11 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 13 Nov 13 - 11:12 PM
Bert 14 Nov 13 - 01:14 AM
Nigel Parsons 14 Nov 13 - 03:50 AM
GUEST 14 Nov 13 - 07:29 AM
JohnInKansas 14 Nov 13 - 11:40 AM
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Subject: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Bert
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 01:25 AM

Er... Not just crap, but the worst piece of software that I have ever encountered. For some reason the powers that be at Microsoft seem to think that they know what I want to do, better that I do.

Well I will tell you Microsoft executives. What I want is for your F)(*&^ing software to work.

I don't want it to think that it needs to be upgraded. If you had the ability to write programs that worked in the first place, then you wouldn't need upgrades.

If you need to know how, then give me a call 719 two eight seven 7918.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 01:50 AM

Is there anything in particular you're looking for technical support on, or are you just venting? Because there's lots of knowledgeable people on here who might be willing to offer expertise and pointers on a wide range of software and hardware issues, but (if that's what you're after) you're going to have to be just a tiny bit more specific .

But I agree, the intermittent Intellisense bug in Visual Studio 2012 is a real pain.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 02:11 AM

B....S....B...S...B...S...B..S..B..S..B..S..B.S.B.S.B.S.B.S.






can you say LINUX? Bet you can't spell ANDROID?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 02:47 AM

I dunno, Garg. Usually we keep tech stuff up top, just because we do. Then again, we sometimes move tech stuff down below the line, when it seems more appropriate there. It's one of those "grey areas," ya know...
But in the grand scheme of things, it don't make no nevermind.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 03:29 AM

There is nothing "tech" about it.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 04:32 AM

Looks like it's time for a rousing chorus of "I Saw the Light."


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 09:25 AM

Windows? Crap?

You're just figuring that out? Linux or Apple OS are better operating systems.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 10:18 AM

What Rapparee said.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: EBarnacle
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 10:30 AM

Actually, I have IT friends who are happy with Windows 8. The issue, though is that it should not be applied to every machine on the planet. It is meant for tablets and mobile devices.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 12:16 PM

These "crap" threads are a pain in the nevermind.

Best guess usage (Wikipedia- 80 % pirated in China, so figures inaccurate, but OK for Western World)

Windows 8- 7.43%
Windows 7- 39.27
Vista---- 2.91
XP ----- 25.08

Apple
OS X - 6.21 %
IOS - 10.92

Linux - 1.29 %

Android - 6.03 %

Other - 2.77 %

In other words, most of us use "crap" according to Bert.

Most of us get along just fine with "crap."


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 12:42 PM

In the age of data communication, an OS is no longer just a piece of consumer software, but part of the worldwide infrastructure. The existing OSes are comparable to houses without locks. Android is among the worst in that respect.

We need completely new open-source OS and browser software with verifiable security. This kernel functionality, being verified, should never require an update. All the rest, bells and whistles, can be commercial and subject to competition.

Of course this is BS in the Mudcat sense, since for ordinary musical requirements, Windows is good enough.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 01:04 PM

WE have open source OS software. Trouble is it's not compatible with programs most folks use. IMO an operating system should be completely transparent---just a means of translating usable programs into something the computer can use.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 01:57 PM

Windows 7 seems to be a pretty good system, once you get used to its strange ways!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 02:48 PM

In other words, most of us use "crap" according to Bert

Because in many cases it's the easy way out- despite the constant headaches and bullshit.

MicroSpawnOfSatanSoft ain't about providing a useable OS, folks - its about making ungodly piles of money.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Newport Boy
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 04:32 PM

And the money comes mainly from upgrades. Most new copies of Windows, Office, etc are sold by Microsoft to OEMs at knockdown prices - once they've got you hooked, you are a continuing source of income.

Phil


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 07:11 PM

I have windows 7. No problems at all.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 11:12 PM

Since I have been called forth to "speak."

I suggest you visit "The Gibson Research Corporation" if you, like me, have not dropped by his laboratory for a couple years.

Lots of good, free, edifying stuff.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle-

font color=purple> This is the man that put ubber-hacker   Kevin Mitnick in federal prison.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Bert
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 01:14 AM

Guest 3:29 ...There is nothing tech about it... You can say THAT again.

Q, there is an old saying that 90% of everything is crap and it is probably true.

Grishka ...for ordinary musical requirements, Windows is good enough...
Unfortunately I was trying to print out a song list for a Gig when Microsoft went into its update mode which I couldn't interrupt. I had to give up and leave without it. So NO it is not good enough for ordinary musical purposes.

I guess that one of the reasons that I am so picky about expecting things to work, is that I used to be a boilermaker, and I can assure you that if you mark out a piece of steel plate then you had better get it right; because steel doesn't come with an on-line debugger.

Also, when I studied computer science, we were told "If your program doesn't work, don't bother to turn it in because you have got an F" and "If your program brings down the system, (Which Microsoft just did to me) then don't bother to come back for the rest of the semester because you have failed the course"

So Greg F has it right. it has nothing to do with the product all it is, is conning the suckers into shelling out their money.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 03:50 AM

Unfortunately I was trying to print out a song list for a Gig when Microsoft went into its update mode which I couldn't interrupt. I had to give up and leave without it. So NO it is not good enough for ordinary musical purposes.

I've no doubt someone cal point straight to it, but I'm sure there's a control in there somewhere (possibly shown when you instal the system, or accept your first updates) with the options "instal updates automatically/never instal updates/ask me before installing updayes". Apart from non-urgent MS updates ,which install while my computer is shutting down, my system always flags that MS updates are due, with a notification along the lines of "There are important updates which need to be made. This requires a shut-down. Your machine will shut-down in 10 minutes" I can then access the message & (if necessary) change the time to shutdown so that I can continue working, or shut-down immediately to allow the updates.
Many of these updates relate not to minor bug fixes, but to security updates where new methods of attacking the computer network have been identified, and urgent action is required.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 07:29 AM

No problems with Win7 although the look and feel was sufficiently different from XP to be a bit irritating until I got used to it.

I avoided Vista, a friend had it and it was a total disaster area.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Windows is crap.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 11:40 AM

The latest "Patch Tuesday" bunch of updates was rather large, but as Nigel said, those are necessary because of the criminals who keep finding new ways to harm you.

Since a majority of users do use Windows, and where the people are is where the money is to be stolen, Microsoft gets more attacks than anyone else, but does usually respond promptly to the significant new threats. Apple is generally good at patching promptly, but often doesn't admit they've fixed you.

This latest Microsoft patch installed three patches yesterday and an additional dozen this morning on my main machine, and DID CAUSE A PROBLEM for me. When I logged in after the patches finished I had NO INTERNET CONNECTION on two of three computers. (She left hers running and getting into it is like digging in a woman's purse, so I don't go there if she's not available, and don't know if hers will need help.)

This most recent bunch of patches caused my AV not to start at the last reboot, so the AV firewall blocked everything. An update to the AV brought both of the two machines I've looked at back on line.

["She" woke up while I was typing, and her AV had updated itself 3 minutes ago so her machine is fine now too.]

The blame for needing patches should be placed on the CRIMINALS. Microsoft gets a pretty good grade for providing what's necessary to keep them out - most of the time, although it's a necessary inconvenience to the users sometimes.

John


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