Folklore: Teenfolk poem 'an empty vessel, thrown a

Subject: Folklore: Teenfolk poem 'an empty vessel, thrown a
From: Mo the caller
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 06:03 AM

We have had many threads about Childrens Folklore and rhymes but there are also songs and rhymes that I remember from secondary school days (age 11 -18), sitting on the grass in the school orchard in London in the late 50s.

"He Sat Down beside her and played a Guitar" (I was reminded of this when reading the Wildwood Flower thread - though a rather more 'matter of fact' version)

"O(l...l..)nce I ha(l...l...)d an ol(l..l..)d banjo(l..l..)" (which we accompanied on a banjo made from a plantain leaf.)

"Oh Sir Jasper"

and this verse, which was too shocking for me to remember the words of
all about how
'he took me by the slender neck'
and put is mouth on my lips
etc. etc.
Ending with
'an empty vessel thrown away
which once was full of beer'

- can anyone else remember the rest of it?

Subject: RE: Folklore: Teenfolk poem 'an empty vessel, thrown a
From: maeve
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 06:45 AM

This one, Mo?

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        A short deliverance from Alan Shard (Canada).

Seen on a wall in Alexandria 1942.

RAVISHED
He grabbed me by my slender neck
I could not shout or scream
He took me to his dingy room
Where we could not be seen
He tore from me my flimsy wrap
And gazed upon my form
I was so small, so cold, so damp
He was so big and warm
He pressed his fevered lips to mine
I could not make him stop
He took from me my very soul
He drank my every drop
He made me what I am today
Thats why you find me here
An empty bottle thrown away
That once was filled with beer!

Anonymous
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(No idea whether the attribution can be improved.)

Subject: RE: Folklore: Teenfolk poem 'an empty vessel, thrown a
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 10:27 AM

And the first one is probably Under the lilacs

Cheers

Subject: RE: Folklore: Teenfolk poem 'an empty vessel, thrown a
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 13 Nov 13 - 04:20 PM

The one I remember had similar >ahem< subject matter but a different take on it; it ends with the girl saying "take me" and the boy replying

"Of course, I'll take you any time.
So where do you fancy going?"

Subject: RE: Folklore: Teenfolk poem 'an empty vessel, thrown a
From: Mo the caller
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 06:42 AM

Thanks Maeve, that's the one. It's as horrible as I remember it - though I was more innocent back then, whiling away the time after O Levels (or maybe we were between exams and supposed to be revising).

Nigel, I think I posted on that thread

For completeness, here is Sir J

Subject: RE: Folklore: Teenfolk poem 'an empty vessel, thrown a
From: Mo the caller
Date: 14 Nov 13 - 10:54 AM

Phil, maybe that's the difference between a boys school and a girls grammar school (where we all spent all our time doing homework, I'm surprised anyone had time to think about such things).
All different now that there is Comprehensive, mixed sex education.