UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 06:09 AM

Just another occasion where the word Folk is misused to mean singer/songwriter. Undoubtedly some talented musicians in the programme but of very limited appeal. We were told at the beginning that folk music is now more popular than ever????
I also wonder at the knowledge of the presenters:

"Woody Guthrie along with fellow Southerners" ??

Vashti Bunyan "crossed the length of the country" do we cross a length?

Was it really punk that showed people that they could attempt music without any musical knowledge or skill? I thought that that happened in the skiffle era.

OK so maybe I'm nitpicking but it would help to have someone who knows the subject to present it.

Hoot

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 05:40 AM

If this is the 'Folk Revival' of the 21st century, it bares little resemblance to the 'Folk Revival' of the 20th century (the late 50s/60s). Acoustic instruments ruled the roost. There was a desire to preserve & protect the songs which seems to be giving way to performance/production values. I heard a lot of folk songs in the programme, but I'm not sure that what I heard was folk music. I made a modest contribution to the original revival. That was enough for me.
                                          Nigel Paterson (Mandolin, 'The Halliard')

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: stallion
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 05:03 AM

Was it about where the genre is going with the new generation? Or is this a subculture of kids stripping back the layers of electronica to find a fresher sound to be different, recycling! Someone likened it to the accessibility of punk to everybody having access to making "music" why not go the whole hog and abandon the instrument and use just use voices! I only watched half of it cos match of the day had a greater pull!

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 08:58 PM

Didn't realise Blur were on.

But then I had already decided it was not for me.

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: selby
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 06:15 PM

Hi Eric hope you are keeping well I take the view there is no such thing as bad publicity, I will put a but in though, I think acoustic music and folk music got a bit blurred.
Keith

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 06:03 PM

As some one who doesn't drink, the kids have grown up and left, not pissed and don't need to drive anywhere, Mrs Viking is reading her Kobo, I am quite happy watching a bit of Saturday tele !! (Well this bit anyway) I just enjoyed seeing John Martyn as a young man in his prime. I was really impressed by Newton Faulkner's version of "May you never". (I'm not into N F) It's very general and really ignores the fact that there are thousands of competent (And not so competent singers and players) who play and sing every week in folk clubs. Don't know what Bob Geldof has to do with it really. The programme really only plays to the popular culture bit. Perhaps it's the new face of folk or the next bit of evolution?

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 05:23 PM

Oh dear...

20 minutes in, when will the hatred begin?

Sorry, my mistake. Al Whittle has already started...

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 08:12 AM

Oh Damn - I'm at one of our residents 60th birthday tonight so it looks like I'll miss it; even so I can't think that it would keep me from MOD or The Football League Show. Anyway Jake Bugg is a Nottingham lad and in his early stages he was heavily promoted by The Nottingham Post (my paper) and by BBC East Midlands Radio. This is the first occasion that I have seen him referred to as "folk"; as for Mumford and Son.......

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 06:26 AM

Saturday night telly is for people with kids who can't go out and people with drink problems who are so pissed they can't drive anywhere decent.

it got as near to folk music asits ever likely to, with Val Doonican and The Younger Generation.

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 06:00 AM

[1] I can think of four folkies or Morris Dancers (female) from Kent and around who if denuding themselves would deserve a good audience - and one at least male who seems to possess magnetic abs judging by the females who stick to them...

And who knows I MIGHT listen to the "folk" above described, later.   If my Criminal Minds DVDs don't arrive.

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: Marje
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 04:45 AM

Well, although it will probably not be "authentic" enough for my taste, I'll give it a listen. My daughter has already introduced me to Jake Bugg, so I'm keeping an open mind.

Even if the distinguishing characteristics of "folk" in thsi instance are simply that singers use their own, distinctive voices, and that you can hear the words of their songs, and that nobody performs with half-naked backing singers[1], that's got to be a big inprovement on much of what passes for popular music.

[1] Probably even more important in traditional circles. I think if I invited my fellow-folkies to start stripping off and gyrating in the pub while I sang, we'd soon be out on the street!

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 04:30 AM

Sent sky plus thanks!

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: GUEST,Graham Bradshaw
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 04:30 AM

With a name like BanjoRay, you should know. They play the banjo. Everybody knows that automatically makes them 'folk'.

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: LesB
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 04:29 AM

What have any of them to do with folk, It's just journalists looking for 'new ' labels.

Subject: RE: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: GUEST,BanjoRay
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 04:21 AM

What have Mumford and Sons got to do with folk music?
Don't all shout at once......

Subject: UK TV More 4 folk night on Sat 7th
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Dec 13 - 12:43 AM

Just noticed whilst checking tomorrow's Radio Times before going to bed..

Don't blame me if it's shite......

http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/cqp2dk/get-folked-the-great-folk-revival

If you neeeeed to have a row about this with with anyone,
that'll be some critic bloke James Gill @ the above Radio Times link

- so far no comments in the discussion at the bottom of the link...


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"http://www.forfolkssake.com/news/25956/news-more-4-hosts-folk-night-on-saturday-7th-december

More 4 are hosting a folk night this Saturday 7th December with three programmes all about how excellent folk is. Clue: it's REALLY excellent.

Get Folked: The Great Folk Revival

A documentary about ALL THE FOLK with interviews and performances from Richard Thompson, Jake Bugg, Frank Turner, The Unthanks, Alt-J and Seth Lakeman.

The programme asks, "is folk the antidote to manufactured music, the new punk, or simply evidence of the enduring appeal of this age-old musical form?"

iTunes Festival Folk Special

Our favourite Lauren Laverne introduces some of the best folky performances from this year's iTunes Festival. With performances from Jack Johnson, Jake Bugg, The Lumineers, Bahamas and Phox.

Big Easy Express

Leaving the best til last, the iTunes performances are followed by the documentary about Mumford & Sons' Railroad Revival Tour.

Big Easy Express followed Mumford & Sons, Edward Sharpe & the Magnetic Zeros and Old Crow Medicine Show on their train tour across America. The three bands played six cities, travelling thousands of miles of railway on board a beautiful vintage train.

Folk night starts at 10pm on More 4 this Saturday 7 December."