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Name For First Born Son

18 Nov 99 - 08:08 PM
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Liz the Squeak 18 Nov 99 - 05:56 AM
Roger the skiffler 18 Nov 99 - 05:29 AM
Stiofáin 18 Nov 99 - 03:19 AM
Jo Taylor 17 Nov 99 - 06:43 PM
matt 16 Nov 99 - 02:40 PM
Liz the Squeak 15 Nov 99 - 12:20 PM
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sophocleese 15 Nov 99 - 12:07 PM
Micca 15 Nov 99 - 11:47 AM
Steve Parkes 15 Nov 99 - 11:27 AM
Liz the Squeak 15 Nov 99 - 10:03 AM
Peter T. 15 Nov 99 - 09:50 AM
sophocleese 15 Nov 99 - 09:18 AM
Liz the Squeak 15 Nov 99 - 08:11 AM
Steve Parkes 15 Nov 99 - 07:40 AM
Stoney 15 Nov 99 - 07:00 AM
Micca 15 Nov 99 - 06:28 AM
Roger the skiffler 15 Nov 99 - 06:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
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Date: 18 Nov 99 - 08:08 PM

Sorry, I didn't notice that this wasn't labeled BS like it should have been.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
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Date: 18 Nov 99 - 07:21 PM

This is the kind of crap that is ruining this site !


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
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Date: 18 Nov 99 - 07:14 PM

I like Barry's. You could say it's Chinese- No Won Son, just like Charlie Chan's.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 18 Nov 99 - 05:56 AM

It's considered unlucky to give the third successive generation the same name, like Robert calls his son Robert, who then calls his son Robert. That's why if you do family history research, there are very few unbroken chains of first sons being named after their fathers. The second son is fine, but three first born generations with the same name isn't. Besides, in the times when all families lived together (mine haven't moved out of one small village for over 180 years) in the same house, or next door, imagine shouting 'Robert, come and feed the chickens', how many Roberts would reply? (none if they are like my family!!!)

LTS


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Roger the skiffler
Date: 18 Nov 99 - 05:29 AM

Greek tradition is that the first born is named for his grandfather so, for example, Nikolas,Stavros,Nikolas,Stavros, alternates down the generations. In addition many Greeks are named after the patron saint associated with their area or island so on St Stavros Day (they celebrate their Saint's day rather than their actual birth date) half an island may be celebrating. Great if you are on holiday at a time that coincides! Especially if you have a name like Nicholas or John which translates to Nikolas or Yianni and you coincide with "your" saint's day. No St Roger though, ti krima !
RtS


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Stiofáin
Date: 18 Nov 99 - 03:19 AM

If this wasn't meant as a joke, and you really want to make the life of your child a lot harder, then at least use the right spelling:

RUMPELSTIELZCHEN ----------------

Stiofáin (being not amused)


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Jo Taylor
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 06:43 PM

Hello Steve, I'm very glad that system didn't catch on in my family, I might have ended up as Wilhelmine Martha, although g-g-granny W's second name was Therese and I inherited that. My brother might have been Julius which is far nicer than Robert, though perhaps a little more difficult to bear...
Jo


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: matt
Date: 16 Nov 99 - 02:40 PM

In our family, my mom threatened to name her sons after the two grandmothers, Elsie and Blanche. If you would have met either of those fine ladies, you would believe that any boy named Elsie Blanche would have to be one hard drinkin', Camel smokin', Bible totin', ass kickin' piece of work.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 12:20 PM

Phoebe was my great grandmother, and the name quite unusual at the time, except on television. The folk song connection was not disregarded at the time, her other name is May, after the Jack in the Green festival. It's a long story, involves green paint and fertility stuff, so unless you want to start an in//fertility ritual thread, don't go down there!!!

My brother was named after the same great grandmother - her surname was Christopher, and my brother's first action was to piss in her lap, to which my mother said 'he's christened you, so that's what we'll christen him, Christopher.' I was also named after a grandmother, luckily I didn't get Ethel Winifred, although I think I might have liked being a Winifred.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
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Date: 15 Nov 99 - 12:08 PM

Cain doesn't seem to be very popular anymore, but you might try the Irish spelling, Kane.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: sophocleese
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 12:07 PM

I like the name Phoebe. I was planning on using it for our first born if it was a girl. He wasn't. However when I suggested it to my inlaws there was a dead silence.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Micca
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 11:47 AM

What Liz the Squak didn't mention was how quickly her daughter justified her name by emulating the lines of a Folk song
" Young Phoebe arises so early and so bright
with her red rosy cheek and her dark rolling eye


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 11:27 AM

Hey, this is my life! Maybe it's his too!!

My grandmother's name was Phoebe. She always insisted on being called Lizzie (second name).

Steve


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 10:03 AM

Well why doesn't gargoyle get its own life instead of interrupting ours?!!


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Peter T.
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 09:50 AM

You are just being played with by gargoyle. Pay no attention. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: sophocleese
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 09:18 AM

Sampelstiltskin? maybe not..We just went for three given names to accomodate all the ones we liked.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 08:11 AM

Our daughter was decided on the toss of a coin in the pub the day before I went into hospital. Her name is Phoebe, which some books give as meaning 'Bright One or Star', and others have it as the feminine of Phoebus, the sun god. Therefore, I have a daughter who is a sun, problem solved.

Mind you, if she had been a boy, she would have been named after my great grandfather, my adopted grandfather, my cousin, my father and brother in law, her godfather, and my husbands' grandfather, which would have just made her Richard Robert William - four branches of the family appeased with one set of names.

But please be careful of initials, I went out with an Andrew Simon Smith once, he never had his briefcase monogramed (and he was one), and I just pray my daughter doesn't take her future husbands name if it begins with S or T, as she would then become PMT/PMS.... And both my sister and mother in law are MAD. My sister is SAG, so a good rule to stick to would be a middle name that doesn't begin with a vowel.

You could just try 'Boy' in various languages, or as Micca suggested, 'one' or 'first'. Try some of the African names, you can get a lot into one word with some of them....

LTS


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 07:40 AM

'Round my way, that's likely to result in names like 'Oh-god-that-went-all-down-my-trousers' or 'Get-your-hand-off-my-knee'*. There's a tradition in some parts, which works if you're from large families: name the first son after his father, the next after his oldest uncle, and so on; same for the girls, with Mum and aunties. My own firtsborn was named for me and also my dad/granddad, plus his own name (not in that order): Timothy Stephen Thomas. My daughter was named for my other granddad, Rebecca Alexandra (She might have had another name too, but birth certificates don't seem to be as big as they used to be). If your relatives don't provide much inspiration, how about names from folksongs? There can't be many Bold Renardines or Gamble Golds or Ramble-aways about these days. The pre-1066 Scandinavians had another one (maybe still do!): when you've had enough kids, call the last one 'Knot' ('Cnut' or 'Knut' or whatever in the local lingo) to 'tie off' the line. Maybe you'd be better tying a knot somewhere else. And maybe Cnut isn't such a good idea ...

Steve

* Or maybe 'Hughie' or 'Beryl'!


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Stoney
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 07:00 AM

Friends of mine in Inuvik years ago were of widely different ethnic backgrounds, but they had a good way of naming their babies. They would invite all their friends and relatives over to a "naming party". The baby was placed on a blanket on the floor. Everyone had a drink and then suggested names. The names were placed on a list for everyone to see. There were a couple of naming rounds and then people voted until all but two names remained. The parents got to decide which would be the first name. I was at two of these parties and both times the resulting names were excellent for the child.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Micca
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 06:28 AM

or (H)ein(z) or maybe Skarpi could give you the Icelandic for 1. It depends on how exotic you want it to be. Word of caution tho' in the UK anyway an unusual name can sometimes lead to being picked on. and especially beware of initials that become an acronym. a friend when I was at school was caled Mad for 10 years because of his initials Martin Aaron Davis. also names that do odd things with the surname. A friend swears he was at school with a guy whose parents christened him Orson (after the actor Orson Welles) unfortunately his surname was Cartwright.


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Roger the skiffler
Date: 15 Nov 99 - 06:06 AM

Mrs Carnera, the boxer's mother, had the simplest solution: she called him "Primo".


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 11:15 PM

I dunno Garg...Why not call him "Hops"...and learn to spell man..........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Name For First Born Son
From: Barry Finn
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 11:09 PM

Go for "Number One Son". Barry


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Subject: Name For First Born Son
From: Rapunzel
Date: 14 Nov 99 - 10:35 PM

I want to name my first born son Rumpelstiltskin

The father in insists on Sam. (He liked Dr. Suez better than the brother's Grimm.)

What should we do?


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