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Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....

GUEST,leeneia 26 Dec 13 - 11:41 AM
Jack Campin 26 Dec 13 - 01:09 PM
Joe Offer 26 Dec 13 - 02:26 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 26 Dec 13 - 08:11 PM
GUEST,leeneia 27 Dec 13 - 09:27 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 27 Dec 13 - 12:52 PM
GUEST,leeneia 27 Dec 13 - 05:39 PM
Jack Campin 27 Dec 13 - 06:34 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 27 Dec 13 - 07:28 PM
GUEST,leeneia 28 Dec 13 - 10:52 AM
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Subject: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 26 Dec 13 - 11:41 AM

Yesterday I went to church for Christmas day, and we sang a song from the 15th century. As a lover of early music, I had to take note of that, and I thought I'd pass it along.

The hymn is now called 'Let our gladness have no end,' and the music is labelled 'Bohemian carol, 15th century.' Its original title was 'Narodil se Kristus Pan.'

Interesting things about it:

1. It's partly in 4/4, partly in 6/4.

2. The beginning sounds a lot like 'Twinkle, twinkle little star', so if you (like me) think of 'Twinkle' as a modern song, think again.

3. The new Lutheran hymnal, 'Worship,' puts it in F and then turns the first two B flats into B naturals. We held a meeting and decided to ignore those natural signs. Life is hard enough...

The song can be found on the Cyber Hymnal site, and they don't have any bizarre accidentals in it, so I assume we can swing either way on those first two B's. The Cyber Hymnal also has a four-part MIDI of the music, but I feel it's too modern-sounding. So I made a MIDI with two parts, and I had it change instruments to show where the change from 4/4 to 6/4 occurs. I think the 4/4 should sound march-like and the 6/4 should be legato, to add interest.

The chords are easy: F, B-flat, C. Remember that the Christmas season is twelve days long, so you can still play this. (I believe we are only up to two turtle doves as of today.)

I'm sending the MIDI to Joe right now, so check back.


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Dec 13 - 01:09 PM

Is this it? From the Lutheran Hymnal site, but rebarred.


X:1
T:Let Our Gladness Have No End
M:2/2
L:1/8
Q:1/4=102
K:F
FGAB ccc2|Bcd2 c4 |\
ccBB AAG2|ABG2 F4||
M:3/2
AGAB c3 B A4 |\
AGAB c3 B A4 |\
F2d2 cAG2 F4|]


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Dec 13 - 02:26 PM

Nice tune, Leeneia.

Click to play (joeweb)


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Dec 13 - 08:11 PM

www.mamalisa.com has this Czech carol, with the English title "Christ the Lord Was Born." Both Czech and English lyrics, and videos.
Also videos on youtube.

Google the Czech title, and several sheet music extracts will be found, some with chords.

The music seems to date from 1676.

The English text of "Let Our Gladness Have No End" is at www.hymnary.org (Lutheran version)


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Dec 13 - 09:27 AM

Audiences are interested in hearing really old music.

I remember one Sunday several years ago, when the foreman from a construction company asked if he could come over to get a check for work done thus far. I said, "Sure, but I'll have friends over, playing music." He allowed as to how that would be all right.

He came in, sat down, and listened, fascinated. After we played "The Nun's Dance," he was beaming, and he exclaimed, "I didn't know you could play music from 1535!"

This is one of my favorite memories of playing early music for people who have never heard it before.


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Dec 13 - 12:52 PM

Last year, Artful Codger recommended a disc of old Czech Christmas music; I ordered it and it was excellent. I'll go upstairs shortly and get the title for you -can't guess at the thread title.


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Dec 13 - 05:39 PM

Thank you, Q. That's very nice of you.


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Dec 13 - 06:34 PM

Is this Artful Codger's message in question?

http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=148715#3456012


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Dec 13 - 07:28 PM

Jack, that's the one.
Leeneia, that should give you the information.


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Subject: RE: Tune Add: 1400's Xmas tune. Let our gladness....
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 28 Dec 13 - 10:52 AM

Sounds good! Thanks.


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