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Subject: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker Date: 30 Dec 13 - 04:41 AM oh dear... I've just lost control and started binge drinking again after near on 18 months total abstinence.. [middle age health reasons - tablets - existential crisis - etc] ok, I'm not proud.. but the best thing about lapsing back into chaotic life style patterns is all night and next morning impromtu movie festivals.. ['movie' - that's "film" translated into American] anyways.. "I'm all right Jack" "Ice cold in Alex" seek them out gotta be the next best British films after "The 3rd man" and "The Ladykillers".... |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker Date: 30 Dec 13 - 05:21 AM mmm.. 10am.. bacon sarnie, mug of tea... heaven.. bed soon.. if I wake up later this afternoon.. next film planned is "Hell Drivers" Thank you god for 47 inch TVs and high definition... |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 30 Dec 13 - 11:11 AM I've always liked 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame', 'Rebecca' and 'The Sea Shall Not Have Them'. Also absolutely anything with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. Plus all the Ealing Studios stuff and George Formby films. Hope you can manage to sort out your lifestyle, punkfolkrocker. Best wishes to you for health and happiness in 2014! |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 30 Dec 13 - 11:31 AM Saw "Kind Hearts and Coronets" on AMC recently. What a stitch. "Rafifi" fast paced jewel heist. "Third Man" is great along with another GG adaptation "Our Man in Havana". "Lolita" with James Mason. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Dec 13 - 12:06 PM I have modern films in my shelves that I picked up and hadn't watched yet, so I've been going through those lately. I watched Good Night, And Good Luck. last night. Good film. And it reminds me, if you haven't seen the Woody Allen flick The Front, it's worth looking up and having NetFlix send it. Over xmas the family was here and we had dinner and we always seem to end up watching movies. During the day The Man Who Came to Dinner (Monte Woolley, Bette Davis, et al.) was on, and then because they didn't know a lot about Bette's range, I put in one of my favorite bad-girl Bette films The Letter. Ironic that in the Dinner film there is a ton of name dropping, and the servant reading a list mangles W. Somerset Maugham's name. The Letter is one of his short stories. They decided they wanted something more upbeat and went through all of my discs - made a mess of the order - and my son announced he had never seen Chicago. That pretty much set "Bad Girls" as the theme for the evening. A film that I love to show to people who have never seen it is Being There with Peter Sellers. I dropped that on the family a few years ago and delighted in watching them squirm! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Elmore Date: 30 Dec 13 - 12:55 PM For Christmas we enjoy the 1970 musical, Scrooge, starring Albert Finney. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: kendall Date: 30 Dec 13 - 01:07 PM tHE 3RD MAN IS A CLASSIC The cruel sea with Jack Hawkins High noon The Outlaw Hell ship The devil with Hitler Harold and Maude Moby Dick, another classic And the best movie of all time, Doctor Zhivago |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Bat Goddess Date: 30 Dec 13 - 01:13 PM "Tight Little Island" (sometimes entitled "Whiskey Galore"). I keep making lists (for the past 30+ years) of my favorite films...but the list changes with each passing mood (or what I've had for dinner...or what era we're talking about). More black and whites: "The Train" with Burt Lancaster, "Dracula" with Bela Lugosi, "Sunset Boulevard", "A Hard Day's Night", "On the Waterfront", "Jules et Jim", "Breathless", "Raging Bull", "The Secret Garden" (1949), "Stardust Memories"... Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Amergin Date: 30 Dec 13 - 01:46 PM The movie version of The Quare Fellow is great. It stars Patrick McGoohan of the Prisoner. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: J-boy Date: 30 Dec 13 - 04:00 PM May not be a "great" film but The Ruling Class starring the newly dead Peter O'Toole is a fun one to watch after imbibing a few adult beverages. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Bill D Date: 30 Dec 13 - 05:16 PM "Being There with Peter Sellers" Yes! Haven't seen it in years. I liked "Batteries Not Included" "Brewster McCloud" and..... "The Wrong Box" ..The cast includes a number of Britain's leading actors and comic actors of the time, including John Mills, Ralph Richardson, Michael Caine, Peter Cook, Dudley Moore, Peter Sellers, Irene Handl and Tony Hancock.... and just try to watch it and then explain the plot to someone! |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Bat Goddess Date: 30 Dec 13 - 06:41 PM "The Ruling Class" was great fun! Haven't seen it in years. (Read the Peter Barnes' play sometime, J-boy!) Another total unknown that I would KILL to see again (I originally saw it in a theater in 1968) is "The Virgin President"...it's not listed in most film books either. It once was scheduled to be released on VHS, but nothing ever came of it. (Note, IMDb says 1969, but the only book I've been able to find it in -- an early edition of Maltin -- says it was released in 1966. Other sources say 1968. Peter Boyle was in it, but no one knew who Peter Boyle was at the time.) "A Thousand Clowns" with Jason Robards...(answering phone) "Is this someone with good news or money?" Actually, I just ordered a DVD copy of it, but it hasn't arrived yet. "Eraserhead"...how could I leave out "Eraserhead"?!? Linn Linn |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: kendall Date: 30 Dec 13 - 07:42 PM No time for Sergeants. Onionhead both starred Andy Griffith. Zorba the Greek Pappion |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,Ed T Date: 30 Dec 13 - 07:59 PM Two under-rated movies that come to mind: Promise-1984 james Garner and James Woods (made for tv movie) Bottle Rocket 1984 Owen Wilsen |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 30 Dec 13 - 08:13 PM The Leopard, Italian version Night Must Fall An American in Paris |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,eldergirl on another computer Date: 30 Dec 13 - 08:19 PM Harold and Maud! yes! haven't seen it for ages, not since our video broke down a few years back. must try n get t fixed..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Dec 13 - 09:34 PM Ed T, I saw that movie with Garner and Woods. It was excellent. Some of the ones that were very camp in their day are still funny, though probably need annotations for today's generation, like The President's Analyst with James Coburn. And The Wrong Box was also wonderful. One that was only a scratchy black and white, but may have finally been restored, was the Robert Donat version of The Thirty-nine Steps. That was the way I got my kids into the Hitchcock habit. And his earliest version of The Man Who Knew Too Much was in many ways the better film. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,Bert Date: 30 Dec 13 - 10:08 PM Happy Ever After The Happiest Days of your life The Titfield Thunderbolt All of the Carry On movies. The Lavender Hill Mob The Cruel Sea The Cockleshell Heroes Angels One Five |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Dec 13 - 10:17 PM "Scratchy black and white... restored" Cleaned up and de scratched 39 steps is available ok. But If there's a version where they have imposed colour on it I hope I never come across it. There's something about black-and-white that adds something to so many films. As "The Artist" reminded us last year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Amergin Date: 31 Dec 13 - 02:23 AM The Secret of Roan Innish is one of my favourites...an absolutely beautiful film. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 31 Dec 13 - 02:46 AM Well, a lot of films mentioned here are certainly not forgotten and are, indeed, shown on UK tv quite often, but one film that I haven't seen in decades is the fascinating 'Murder in Reverse' a UK film from 1945. The basic premise of the film has been used since: A man is sent to prison for murder but he claims that the 'victim' is in fact still alive. Years later, the man is released from prison, and then finds the 'dead' man and kills him! |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Dec 13 - 03:52 AM I like old musicals, especially anything with Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly. My Sister Eileen is always fun, and I really like Gene Kelly and Rita Hayworth in Cover Girl. Joel Grey did a great job on The Fantasticks, made about 15 years ago. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 31 Dec 13 - 12:23 PM Moulin Rouge Treasure of the Sierra Madre Stagecoach Showboat (1st. version) Twelve Angry Men The Four Feathers (1939) Lawrence of Arabia Like most of the films mentioned here, they are available on DVD, so there is an audience for them. The BBC News World has a program reviewing "movies." Where do these people get the idea that movie is American and film is Brit? Both are used commonly on both sides of the pond. Another term is the dismissive "flick," which applies to much of the trash being released from the studios; London, Hollywood and Bollywood. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: catspaw49 Date: 31 Dec 13 - 12:28 PM Doctor Friggin' Zhivago????? Geeziz Kendall............ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 31 Dec 13 - 07:23 PM Spaw can't wait for Duck Dynasty, the film. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Joe_F Date: 31 Dec 13 - 07:59 PM A few years ago something reminded me of a movie call "Last Summer" about some teenagers running wild on Fire Island. Pursuing it on the Web, I was startled to find that it had disappeared from the face of the earth. Ace in the Hole, Destry Rides Again, Elmer Gantry, A Face in the Crowd, Gaslight, Heathers, If I Had a Million, Ikiru, The Lost Weekend, The Male Animal, Paths of Glory, Revenge of the Nerds, A Taste of Honey, Tortilla Flat, Yidl mitn Fidl. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: JohnInKansas Date: 31 Dec 13 - 08:35 PM An "oldie" found on DVD in a sale bin recently, that I'd never seen before but picked up out of curiosity: THE BIG TRAIL, Directed by Raoll Walsh, ©1930, and billed as "One of the First Great Epic Westerns," was interesting because of the cover picture on the box of John Wayne at what looks like about age 19 or 20(?). Few of us ever saw anything he did before 10 or 15 years later when he had "matured" significantly. If anything, his acting was better than later when he leaned on his "rep" and didn't have to work as hard. Not really anything to rave about, but much better than I expected for that time. Well worth my $3.95 even if I don't ever watch it again. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: ChanteyLass Date: 31 Dec 13 - 08:40 PM Almost anything by Hitchcock Adventures of Robin Hood (Flynn-deHavilland) Charade The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming Gidget (go ahead, laugh) |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 01 Jan 14 - 05:25 AM THere are hundreds of old movies posted on YouTube. Many are removed very quickly but it is worth checking in now and again for some "gem" that you haven't seen for ages. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Allan C. Date: 01 Jan 14 - 09:48 AM The Boy with Green Hair - and speaking of green, How Green Was My Valley Seven Samurai So Dear To My Heart Wait Until Dark - and agreeing wholeheartedly with Kendall, Onionhead Gosh! There are so very many favorites that it is difficult to make a short list. I really like a whole lot of the older films. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: PHJim Date: 01 Jan 14 - 11:04 AM Morgan Zorba The Greek The Gods Must Be Crazy Local Hero |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Jan 14 - 11:31 AM I streamed Witness for the Prosecution (an Agatha Christie play) via NetFlix recently, one of Tyrone Power's better roles. My viewing habits include a lot of mysteries - Dial M For Murder and other Hitchcock films (some of his latest are the films I've seen less frequently, they just didn't grab me like the earlier ones.) Double Indemnity also streams via NetFlix, and is wonderful to see Fred MacMurry in that, especially if you grew up during the years he was playing affable 2-dimensional characters for the Disney studio and on television. I used film as part of an ongoing conversation with my children as they were growing up. They saw mature films as far back as when they were in junior high, and I answered their questions about what was going on. The range of films allowed for a lot of good conversations that never would have gone so well if I'd sat them down on the couch and said "now lets talk about what you need to know about sex," etc. They also learned about paying attention to subplot. I remember how unimpressed my son was with the boat in the reeds scene in The African Queen. Not such a big deal he thought. I pointed out how gross Mr. Allnut thought the leeches were, yet he got back into the water - then he understood why the subtle aspects of a story can be just as effective as big dramatic scenes in movies today. A few months later he and his friends were watching this on television, and I heard him tell his friends this same thing. My kids' friends used to ask to come over to watch movies at our house because their parents wouldn't let them watch what my kids got to. I think the request came most often for Rocky Horror Picture Show, but there were a few others as well. Contributing to the SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 Jan 14 - 02:52 PM Tampopo, an all-time great satire on the search for the best noodles by a woman who owns an unsuccessful noodle shop. A truck driver (Wayne-Eastwood caricature) helps her in the quest. Can't resist Zhang Yimou and other Chinese epics. I have bought them on DVD. Or films starring Gong Li. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Elmore Date: 01 Jan 14 - 06:19 PM Quackser Fortune Has a Cousin in the Bronx, and The Sterile Cuckoo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 Jan 14 - 07:11 PM An odd English comedy about three misfits searching for Filipino wives. One was a ratcatcher. One found a prostitute who was smart and could run his little business. I saw it long ago, and have forgotten most of the details. Probably withdrawn because it would bother "sensitive" people. I think the name was "Filipino Baby." Any ideas? |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker Date: 01 Jan 14 - 09:27 PM The good news is - since I opened this thread and eventually sobered up I have now discovered "Life is a Circus" [1960 - Dir: Val Guest] has finally been issued on reasonable quality DVD... I saw it on afternoon TV about 30 years ago, but it's over 8 quid so owning it'll have to wait..... - a dodgy cheapy quicky old clapped out "Crazy Gang" comedy with raunchy for the late 50's exploitation burlesque semi nudey dance scenes... |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,Bert Date: 01 Jan 14 - 09:47 PM Here's a few more Operation Snatch The Runaway Bus Goodbye Mr. Chips The Ghost Train The Blue Lamp The Canterville Ghost I wonder if our selections say more about us than about the movies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: JohnInKansas Date: 02 Jan 14 - 12:59 AM More of historical(?) interest than entertainment value, one that I watched for for a rather long time before finding was called "Bad Day at Black Rock." Set shortly after WWII, an old one-armed Marine vet (Spencer Tracy) goes looking for the family of a boy killed in action in his unit. Strong "social message" with the main entertainment value comng when Tracy beats the crap out of the local bully (Ernest Borgnine), but for the time the "message" was pretty strong stuff. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: PHJim Date: 03 Jan 14 - 12:38 AM I recall really enjoying Bad Day At Black Rock. I wonder if I'd still enjoy it. When I discovered that my wife had never seen Alice's Restaurant or Woodstock, I decided to rent them and show her the great stuff she'd missed. While the music was still great, both movies were pretty embarrassing with all the,"Cool Man." "That's groovy." "Far out Man." I enjoyed Gone With The Wind the first time I saw it, but it doesn't stand up well to time. It now seems really dated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Neil D Date: 03 Jan 14 - 12:52 AM Winterset |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Allan C. Date: 03 Jan 14 - 08:54 AM The Detective Some Came Running Both of these starred Frank Sinatra who, in my opinion, when he wasn't portraying the Rat Pack persona, was a fine actor. Most certainly he was in these two films. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: GUEST,Ziggy Starlust Date: 03 Jan 14 - 10:40 AM Howard the Duck! |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Jan 14 - 01:17 PM Rashomon Raise the Red Lantern Ju Dou Sinatra was a genius in some respects- good actor, good singer. gene Kelly was another who could entertain in more than one field. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Allan C. Date: 03 Jan 14 - 01:18 PM Okay, if we're talking about animal films we should mention the various ones starring Francis the Talking Mule and of course, the movie, "Harvey" with James Stewart as well as "My Friend, Flicka" - just for starters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Don Firth Date: 03 Jan 14 - 02:14 PM Three of my most favorite movies are "The Big Country," "To Kill a Mockingbird," and "The Uninvited." "The Big Country" has every cliché in every Western, but it's done with such flair, and each with an unusual twist, that it comes off beautifully. Two cattle ranchers, Charles Bickford as the wealthy rancher and Burl Ives as the poor rancher involved in a tussle over water rights—the Big Muddy river. The Big Muddy runs through property owned by the single schoolmarm, Jean Simmons. Each rancher wants to prevent the other from watering their cattle in the Big Muddy, and both of them are pressuring the schoolmarm to sell to them. Enter the hero, the "mysterious stranger." Not a cowboy, but a sea captain (Gregory Peck), who met the rich rancher's daughter when she was back East. He comes to the ranch to marry her. Immediate strife between the sea captain and the ranch foreman (Charlton Heston), who is also in love with the rancher's daughter. Punch-out between the two of them. Epic knock-down-dragout! Ends in a unique manner, but not what one would expect. But she turns out to be pretty shallow, and the disillusioned sea captain becomes interested in the schoolmarm Problem! The poor rancher's (Burl Ives) wild son (Chuck Connors) is hot for the pretty schoolmarm too! He kidnaps the schoolmarm. He and his father (Burl Ives) try to intimidate her into selling her property to them. And the son tries to "put the moves" on her. The sea captain appears, to rescue her. And—there is a face-to-face shoot-out, like no shoot-out you've ever seen in any Western. Range war breaks out between the two ranchers, each determined to settle things once and for all. Like I said, all the clichés. But each handled with an unpredictable twist. GREAT Western!! By the way, most people assume that Burl Ives got his Oscar for playing "Big Daddy" in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof," but he actually got it for playing Rufus Hannassey in "The Big Country," which came out the same year. ========== "To Kill a Mockingbird" also stars Gregory Peck as Atticus Finch, an attorney in a small town in Alabama. A widower, he has two children, Scout (Mary Louise) played by 10-year-old Mary Badham (who received a special Oscar for the role), and Jem. A character lurking in the background is "Boo" Radley, Robert Duvall in, perhaps, his first movie. Tom Robinson, a black man, played by Brock Peters, is accused of raping a young white woman. Atticus Finch decides to defend him and incurs the animosity of the whole town—but he believes Robinson to be innocent. And a man of impeccable integrity, he wants to set a good example for his children. Do what's right, no matter what it might cost you. During the trial, it becomes obvious that she had the hots for Tom, and when he refused her advances, she decided to take her revenge by accusing him of raping her. The outcome is not nice, and one of the more rabid townspeople tries to take revenge on Atticus by attacking his children, but help comes from a surprisingly unexpected source. A portrait of Southern racial prejudice and a quiet man of integrity. ========== Another movie—a horror movie—was 1944's "The Uninvited" (not talking about the 2009 movie with the same name, which I haven't seen). An American composer (Ray Milland) and his sister (Ruth Hussey) buy a large Gothic mansion on the south coast of England (Cornwall?). The house, which has been empty for a long time, sells unbelievably cheaply, and they soon learn that nobody else wants it—because it's haunted. They are dubious, but soon—odd manifestations, strange unexplained noises in the middle of the night—the plot centers around learning what happened at that house and why it's haunted. The movie is downright chilling. The special effects are quite primitive compared to what can be done now, but they're just as scary, if not moreso! At one point early in the movie, the composer and his sister are in an upstairs "solarium" where he has his piano. Plenty of light, nice view, but the room seems unnaturally chilly. The sister is carrying a rose, which at one point she puts down on the piano, then forgets when they leave the room. The camera zeroes in on the rose, which, within a few seconds, wilts and falls apart. Time lapse photography, but very effective. Suddenly you feel chilly too! And later in the movie, the ghost of a woman clad in blowing chiffon appears—or almost appears—on the stairs. Startling! Downright scary! Double exposure. But again, very effective! One of the most effectively scary horror movies I've ever seen! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Donuel Date: 04 Jan 14 - 11:06 AM I saw Zorba the week of its release at the theatre so it wasn't forgotten. In fact I do not remember any forgotten movies. Mockingbird and all the above movies that have been mentioned more than once are all treasures, Many Non precious old movies could in fact have been destroyed never to be seen again. I wonder about Iron Maidens (about Antique English Tractor races) Is the Day of the Triffids still seen?, Realistically if you can still see an old celluloid nitrate movie it is not forgotten. Discoveries are rare but are possible such as the lost segment of Lost Horizon or some old French Films. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Bert Date: 04 Jan 14 - 01:51 PM Somewhere, I have a DVD of Day of the Triffids. I picked it up at a dollar store a year or so ago. |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 04 Jan 14 - 03:01 PM I am forced to state that a DVD of "Day of the Trifids" is available. (Actually an interesting film) |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: kendall Date: 04 Jan 14 - 08:20 PM Lassie come home. I aw this one when I was 9 and I wept. I watched it again when I was 60 and wept. Welcome back, Spaw, I see your taste still hasn't returned. The enemy below Dog day afternoon The barefoot Contessa. Trouble in the glen Journey to the center of the earth.(The original with James Mason) The Count of Monte Cristo Them with James Whitmore Forbidden planet Father Goose |
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Subject: RE: BS: great old forgotten forgotten movies From: kendall Date: 04 Jan 14 - 08:34 PM Dragon heart Beowulf. |
