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BS: Militant Atheism Threads

Jack Blandiver 06 Feb 14 - 04:27 AM
Jack the Sailor 06 Feb 14 - 07:22 AM
GUEST,Musket 06 Feb 14 - 08:53 AM
Jack the Sailor 06 Feb 14 - 09:29 AM
Dave the Gnome 06 Feb 14 - 09:50 AM
Jack the Sailor 06 Feb 14 - 10:23 AM
GUEST,Musket 06 Feb 14 - 12:55 PM
Dave the Gnome 06 Feb 14 - 01:09 PM
GUEST,concerened 06 Feb 14 - 01:19 PM
Richard Bridge 06 Feb 14 - 01:30 PM
Richard Bridge 06 Feb 14 - 01:34 PM
Jack the Sailor 06 Feb 14 - 02:00 PM
Steve Shaw 06 Feb 14 - 04:06 PM
Jack the Sailor 06 Feb 14 - 04:31 PM
Steve Shaw 06 Feb 14 - 04:54 PM
Jack the Sailor 06 Feb 14 - 06:46 PM
Bill D 06 Feb 14 - 06:54 PM
Steve Shaw 06 Feb 14 - 07:18 PM
Jack the Sailor 06 Feb 14 - 07:22 PM
Bill D 06 Feb 14 - 08:00 PM
Steve Shaw 06 Feb 14 - 08:14 PM
Steve Shaw 06 Feb 14 - 08:15 PM
Jack the Sailor 06 Feb 14 - 08:36 PM
Bill D 06 Feb 14 - 10:14 PM
Dave the Gnome 07 Feb 14 - 02:31 AM
GUEST,Musket 07 Feb 14 - 04:03 AM
Jack Blandiver 07 Feb 14 - 05:26 AM
GUEST,concerened 07 Feb 14 - 07:06 AM
Steve Shaw 07 Feb 14 - 07:17 AM
Steve Shaw 07 Feb 14 - 07:20 AM
GUEST,concerened 07 Feb 14 - 08:29 AM
akenaton 07 Feb 14 - 08:51 AM
Jack the Sailor 07 Feb 14 - 09:40 AM
GUEST,Musket 07 Feb 14 - 09:47 AM
Jack the Sailor 07 Feb 14 - 10:05 AM
Jack the Sailor 07 Feb 14 - 10:21 AM
Jack Blandiver 07 Feb 14 - 10:46 AM
Pete Jennings 07 Feb 14 - 11:03 AM
Bill D 07 Feb 14 - 11:07 AM
Steve Shaw 07 Feb 14 - 11:25 AM
Jack the Sailor 07 Feb 14 - 11:42 AM
Stilly River Sage 07 Feb 14 - 11:42 AM
Steve Shaw 07 Feb 14 - 12:01 PM
Jack the Sailor 07 Feb 14 - 12:08 PM
akenaton 07 Feb 14 - 12:12 PM
Jack the Sailor 07 Feb 14 - 12:15 PM
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Subject: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 04:27 AM

Another nail in the coffin of free speech I see! Sad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 07:22 AM

From the membership page. This explains what speech is "free" on this forum and what isn't. You "nail in the coffin" accusation seems unfounded. I don't see it as part of a larger trend. I also suppose that there are lots of places on the Internet to go and be rude and unkind. You certainly have the option of starting your own forum or Facebook page for that purpose.

Be aware that our forum is Free.

Anonymity and Guest Posting are permitted.

You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 08:53 AM

I guess any thread based on an oxymoron will have polarised views.

Snag is, keeping quiet just encourages ignorance to flourish if unchallenged.

Still, they come in useful for those who enjoy finding and quoting small print and rules eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 09:29 AM

I wonder if I pass up this chance to bicker with Musket over his arbitrary interpretations of words will another come along? :-D

There are adjustments to be made on your computer to make the print as large as you need to read it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 09:50 AM

Oh my joint Messiahs! Not another. PLEASE!!!

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 10:23 AM

:-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 12:55 PM

iPhone not computer. Do you think I hump a computer up a chairlift to the top of Grande Mot?

Returning to Blighty Saturday.

Why not co Messiah Emeritus with Gnomish attributes? Co Messiah S needs cheering up with the divine retribution he is being dealt, floods etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 01:09 PM

I thought he was dealing them :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 01:19 PM

Gotta admire and agree with the sentiments expressed here regarding censorship and bickering amongst ourselves.Goddamn it !! aren't we all grown ups//? do we really need this thread policing over a little harmless banter?


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 01:30 PM

Dammit, dammit, dammit - agreeing with Blandiver and Mither again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 01:34 PM

Look, God-botherers have oppressed tortured and murdered all who do not follow their own little sects for millennia.

Payback is richly deserved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 02:00 PM

Richard Bridge,

You think being rude to a couple of people on this forum is retribution for all of that? That's funny :-)


concerened, for once is right the threads were closed for the bickering amongst yourselves.

And I am sure that you would be allowed to get all of the payback you wish as long as you can do so without being unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak.

It is really a very small thing to ask for the many social benefits you receive from this forum.

Here is a place that you can go and share your attacks on religion with others who believe as you do.   


https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Militant-Atheist-Forum/119901301503878


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 04:06 PM

Hello? I dip in here once a day usually and I appear to not know what this thread is about. Has some dipstick censored religion talk? Is pete not to be called a twat? Is Wacko not to be called Wacko (even though his chosen soubriquet is even stupider)? Are we not allowed to say that anyone who decries in-your-face evidence is deluded? Are we not to condemn those who declare that they care not for the near-certainty that God does not exist because there are "greater truths"? Are we not allowed to state that the indoctrination of children by "christening" them, forcing them to pray, sing hymns, sit in classrooms under a crucifix and attend church services is tantamount to an abuse of human rights? Are we not allowed to say that we respect the boundaries of free speech but that none of these issues even remotely get to that point? Tell me what's going on, somebody. And not you, pete or Wacko, as you never have the faintest idea about what's going on anyway!


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 04:31 PM

And so it begins

>>>Is pete not to be called a twat? Is Wacko not to be called Wacko<<<



"You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak."


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 04:54 PM

Hi, parrot-face!


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 06:46 PM

"You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak."


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 06:54 PM

Remember, Steve Shaw doesn't accept that this is "real life", so I suppose nothing he says posts can be considered to be relevant to anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 07:18 PM

Do you think this is real life, Bill, ol' fruit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 07:22 PM

ol' fruit?

"You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak."


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 08:00 PM

I do not assume the words I read here are generated by Max... or by a program created by Alan Turing... and I know *I* am real, so I treat every post I choose to respond to as if I were talking to someone at a party.

If I hurl insults at someone face-to-face, they would probably either hit me, or walk away. If the topic is worth my effort to discuss (as in THIS reply to YOU), I try to keep it going with a modicum of restraint.

(and I really have no idea if " ol' fruit" is meant AS an insult by you.... it's kinda strange, as I am neither 'gay' nor do I resemble a banana.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 08:14 PM

Hows about "don't be such a po-faced ol' git" then! Come off it, Bill. Less of the yankee imperialism if you don't mind. If you don't know what "ol' fruit" means, look it up!


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 08:15 PM

Hi there, Polly Wacko Parrot, by the way!


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 08:36 PM

"You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak."


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 10:14 PM

Okay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)

So... what part of that am I? Or am I just a Yankee imperialist? And what IS it in your personality that requires you to call anyone & everyone you disagree with by some stupid insulting sobriquet?

( I didn't remember I knew 'sobriquet' until I got to that part of the post.)

Anyway, I'll repeat what I said months ago: I'd rather spend an hour in a pub disagreeing politely with ol' creationist Pete than be insulted for 5 minutes by you.

And I think I'll take my own advice and not waste my poor typing fingers replying to any more insults. Your hobby has begun to wear on me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 02:31 AM

Try to understand that American English is not the original or only version, Bill. Fruit may be a term in use for other things but old fruit is an affectionate address around these parts.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 04:03 AM

We had a loco driver down the pit called Fruit. Buggered if I recall his real name but Fruit was named thus on account of calling everyone else Fruit.

I'm disgusted at you Steve! Fruit is a term of endearment. Since when did our nautical censorship officer deserve such affection? Oh, hang on. It was Bill. He reckons the internet is real. Oh grapefruit......

I assume Mr Sailor must send pm messages telling the homophobic and misogynist members how the rules work, because whenever anybody advocates bigotry, offending large numbers of people, some being Mudcat members, he doesn't shout.

Yet when my learned Co Messiah or I ditch the diplomacy in retaliation to awful comments, we get some rules or other thrown in our faces.

Here's a rule. William the Bastard. 1066 - 1087.

Last day enjoying the piste and the Savayard hospitality. Back up reality tomorrow.

Mudcat never was.

Ok I'll qualify that. BS section never was. I get a hell of a lot from the real Mudcat above. It's just the pompous bullshit down here that makes me laugh. Together with certain people abusing knowledge if my email address gleaned through access to membership details in order to say privately what they don't have courage of conviction of to say publicly.

That was disappointing. Not least as it tends to alter opinions of people you thought were the good guys.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 05:26 AM

Hmmmm. When the Jack the Sailor objected to something I said once he opened a whole fecking thread about 'understanding me' & thus embarrassed me into politeness. That was a real mean thing to do, JtS - you exploited my good nature by dark & devious tactics & I really wish now I'd told you to fuck off, which, as an adult, I can do without implying any lack of humanity or respect, much less fear the editorial hand of Silly River Sage who considers such things to be beneath his / her prissy dignity.

*

For the record - religion is STILL to spirituality what pornography is to sexuality. They are manipulative and exploitative of that which is the unique birthright of every single one of us, and they make fools & victims of those they exploit. No one was born on this earth to be a fool or a victim, and any militancy among we atheists is born from the need to redress a serious imbalance with a view to restoring a common order of humanity that hasn't been enjoyed since the egalitarianism of the Badarian farmers circa 4000 BCE.

Our time will come again!


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 07:06 AM

Oh come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 you lot!! you have started again with your third form bickering and carping and posturing.

Of course I do agree with sweetcheeks when he makes that fine remark

"It's just the pompous bullshit down here that makes me laugh. "

I think some of you like shaw and blandiver..or whatever his bloody silly name is( why is it that sites like this attract the really crass inventors of names? is that because in real life they aint got one? a life that is..) are particularly obnoxious, provocative and unkind to poor old jack.


I may not agree most of the time with what he says but he does have a right to be treated with respect and i will defend to the
last his right to have a published opinion on this site.

Some of you seem to act like self elected post police...how very dare you!!

Come on people fair shakes for everyone i say..time to bury the hatchet and get along like civilised human beings


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 07:17 AM

Yeah, religion has made such a brilliant job of making itself the default condition of humanity that redressing that balance is going to be a long journey, one strewn with religious bigots, delusional types claiming Greater Truths, fundamentalists of all belief systems, some quite nice people who can't accept that they are feeding their children anti-education, and people who would like to bring back the heresy laws when either their faith or their Jesus is "insulted". And, of course, those who would protect religion from us nasties by means of the parroting out of "forum rules". (How many times is that now?!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 07:20 AM

why is it that sites like this attract the really crass inventors of names? is that because in real life they aint got one? a life that is.

Steve here. So what's your name then?


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:29 AM

Easy that shaw.. even for you.. Con,,short for Conceppta...Cerened..get it? ..chump?


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:51 AM

The posts were not deleted because of the insults to people of faith.
They were kindly deleted, because I requested them to be so.

There are some things, which even on a relatively unregulated forum like this, are beyond the pale.
Throughout these threads, I have treated fellow members and guests, respectfully, my views are not popular here, I never expected them to be, but they are VALID views and worthy of discussion.
On the post which I asked to be deleted, I was subjected to the vilest of abuse and more importantly the poster had dug up some information regarding my family. My family do not contribute to this forum and have nothing to do with my personal views on any issue debated here.
Stalking is against the rules of any civilised forum and why the poster is still allowed access is beyond me.

However the matter is in hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:40 AM

Oh, finally an explanation of the "polly" nonsense.


I will continue to point out the rules which were written by Max, the owner of this forum, until you learn them. It might speed things up if you read them. Go to the top of the page and click "membership."

Mr Shaw, you seem to have an odd fixation with names, getting upset when Darwin's is taken in vain, but then when are you not upset? Complaining about or people's Mudcat handles. On that same membership page there is a section on the handles allowed here. Turns out you can be anything you want to be except unkind, impolite etc etc..


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:47 AM

Hi conc! Getting a bit serious if you don't mind your sweet cheeks saying so.

Here in France, the papers are full of a Catholic Bishop saying that militant atheists should be resisted, by force if necessary. He also said he answers to a higher authority than France.

If there are any militant atheists reading, I suggest you pop over and start a crusade of your own.

Except that you probably only exist in the heads of dangerous lunatics such as the aforementioned bishop. He is also the one uniting with the fascist party to criminalise people for being gay.

Still , the wine is nice. The savoire cuisine is nice. Nobody said the people had to be nice.

In Scotland next week. Now there's a much nicer place. They practice the equality Napoleon advocated. Although the sectarian divide is still there in places sadly. Although whilst they all hate Alistair Darling, they stop hating each other.

I've often wondered how hate is propagated as "god is love."


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:05 AM

The Militant Atheist Forum

You can tell these people, who unlike some scardy cats on this forum are embrace their beliefs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:21 AM

...are embracing...


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:46 AM

who unlike some scardy cats on this forum are embrace their beliefs

I'm not normally pedantic, JtS, but in the light of your earlier persecution of me I'll make an exception. So, please explain to we lesser mortals - what the name of Sweet Holy Fuck does that actually mean?

*

Akeneaton's not much better, mind. On Christmas Day he cruelly slandered me as being mentally ill / on drugs for some comment I made in answer to one of his insufferable homophobic diatribes.

How does that, not to mention his noxious propagandist hatemongering, fit in with the Mudcat Rule book I wonder?


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:03 AM

Whoever the pete was, it wasn't me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:07 AM

"... but old fruit is an affectionate address around these parts."

But Dave, I am not exactly from around those parts. I have a few odd little terms of endearment and 'affectionate address' that I have used in THESE parts, but I don't use them without explanation on an international forum.


" Oh, hang on. It was Bill. He reckons the internet is real. Oh grapefruit......"

As I said, Musket, I assume 'real' people make these posts. I don't even understand the concept involved in saying **the internet** is not real. Sounds to me like a cultural eccentricity employed to justify being rude when you can't be looked directly in the eye.
   (Now... do I have to look up "grapefruit" also? One of my terms of 'affectionate address' is "fruitcake". Makes me wonder if I oughta use it. Or maybe my friend Catspaw could offer a few suggestions.)
   In the last year or two I have been watching old English TV comedy shows... most notably "The Last of the Summer Wine", and I hear a lot of "affectionate address" used in not-quite-so-affectionate ways. If that is a common game in the UK, you should understand that it does not translate well in this "unreal" medium, and like rhyming slang, it seems a waste of effort to try to teach it to we poor colonials.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:25 AM

Bloody good job for you I'm not a shackledragger - oops, Aussie - Bill, or else I'd have been greeting you with "G'day, you old bastard!"

Just thought I'd mention that the interwebby thingie is a wonderful resource for looking up unfamiliar terms. Beats immediately getting on your high horse any day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:42 AM

Jack B,

I don't recall persecuting you, I do recall discussing something that you said that I did not like with you. As I recall it, you gave as good as you got.

As for "shaming you into being polite." Max has shamed me into being much much more polite than I was. If I was rude to you I am sorry. But I am glad that you and I are now more polite.

"who unlike some scardy cats on this forum are embrace their beliefs"

should be

"who, unlike some scardy cats on this forum, embrace their beliefs"

I meant that the people on the Militant Atheists forum act like militant atheists (the modern definition) and are proud to be called that. While there are a couple of people on this forum who embrace the philosophy but deny that "Militant Atheism" even exists. Which makes them more like pete than anyone else on this forum. pete acts like someone who cares about science but denies the evidence, even when you virtually shove it in his face. Certain members of this forum deny simple concepts like militant atheism and forum rules even when they are shown examples of such things repeatedly.

I am not saying that what pete is doing is bad. I really admire him for his patience and faith. (though I feel the faith in Ken Ham and his confederates is misplaced.) It's up to the rest of us to politely judge for ourselves the veracity of his claims. I find it a little ironic that some of the same people who complain about free speech are people who will try to shout down pete pretty much every time he enters the conversation.

The people who vilify pete, blindly share the same blinkered doggedness that they vilify.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 11:42 AM

If you're going to invoke my name for insults on threads in which I am not participating, Blandriver, at least get it right. Stilly, i.e., Stillaguamish.

Thank you.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:01 PM

No-one is shouting anyone down, Wacko. We are simply offering the alternative point of view with considerable directness, having decided to eschew gentle diplomacy and indulgence with those who spout idiotic, bigoted and potentially hateful nonsense. The same treatment that non-believers or non-compliers have been handed down for centuries, minus the violence, of course. Incidentally, Wackers, the day I come here and "get upset" about anything is the day I cease posting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:08 PM

"Just thought I'd mention that the interwebby thingie is a wonderful resource for looking up unfamiliar terms. Beats immediately getting on your high horse any day. "


More predictable impolite unkindness form Mr. Shaw.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:12 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: GUEST,Jack Blandiver - PM
Date: 25 Dec 13 - 06:48 AM

Homosexuality IS perverse as we, male and female, were given the organs of reproduction, solely to reproduce....the pleasure we gain from sexual intercourse is an added incentive for reproduction.
So sexual intercourse with someone of the same gender is in essence a perversion of the true purpose.

This is as tragic a example of misinformed hogwash as I've experienced for some time; the sort of fascistic idiocy that underwrites small-minded hatred in which ignorance masquerades as 'informed'.

Reproduction is, at best, a random by-product of the universal procedure known as sexual intercourse. In itself reproduction is statistically insignificant given the amount of instances of sexual intercourse as against the instances of actual conception. Moreover, who has sexual intercourse to reproduce? Indeed, the mechanism of sexual intercourse is designed solely - utterly and totally - to give transcendent pleasure to the participants. It is not an 'added incentive' - it is the be-all and end-all of why we fuck.

There is nothing more 'natural' about heterosexual sex than homosexual - both are about deep instinctive sensual pleasuring to the point of orgasmic delirium (and beyond) and both work flawlessly to that end. Everything humanity turns its hand to is about using nature in such a way to enrich our lives. You hardly find steam engines, TV sets or laptop computers growing on trees, and yet these things 'work' according to the same natural universal laws that govern our bodies, with which we can do what we damn well wish in the pursuit of Peace, Love, Joy and Goodwill Toward All.

The possibilities are endless, so it's always a shame when some small-minded ill-informed fecking idiot comes along spreading their message of hate based on a complete misunderstanding of what is natural, or not natural, based entirely on their own fucked up miserable world-view which is the only true perversion here.



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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
From: akenaton - PM
Date: 25 Dec 13 - 09:17 AM

And a Merry Christmas to you too Jack, no matter which planet or substance you're on....Ake

My response to your insulting post, was because I could make little sense of what you had written, or how it applied to myself.

It was also intended as slightly TiC, as I thought you would have gathered from the smiley?


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:15 PM

"Wacko" "spout idiotic, bigoted and potentially hateful nonsense. ", "Wackers,"



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From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 07:49 PM

You see, twat features, this is the thing: there is no parallel, no equivalence whatsoever, between your adherence to evidence-free, creationist, believer bullshit and good, honest science. None. Actually, I think I might just have mentioned that before. Now, pete babe, you rattle on elsewhere about irony. Well let me tell you a bit about irony, you silly, useless, thoughtless, brainless twerp. You diss science at every opportunity. Yet you are desperate to make equivalence between science, which you abhor so, and religion, which you mindlessly love so. Can't you see it? You are making a fool out of your own beliefs. Hardly surprising, since you are such a fool yourself. Have you a hole you can crawl into? <<

The above is 3 days ago. Using Mr. Nye's standard of what "a reasonable man" would conclude. A reasonable man would conclude that you were upset, certainly you acted upset, three days ago. A reasonable man would probably conclude that you are lying when you say this.   

>>Incidentally, Wackers, the day I come here and "get upset" about anything is the day I cease posting. <<


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 12:42 PM

I meant that the people on the Militant Atheists forum act like militant atheists (the modern definition) and are proud to be called that.

I had a look at the link. A rather hysterical Facebook sight which is most definitely NOT my idea o' fun! As a regular Facebook type (come friend ME!), I wouldn't have anything to do with this garbage.

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If you're going to invoke my name for insults on threads in which I am not participating, Blandriver, at least get it right. Stilly, i.e., Stillaguamish.

A genuine slip o' the finger there; unfortunate in that context I admit. Sorry!

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My response to your insulting post, was because I could make little sense of what you had written, or how it applied to myself.

Nothing insulting there, Ake - I'm not alone in these enlightened times in finding your propagandist homophobia is beneath contempt. I was simply answering your idiotic idea that heterosexuality was somehow more natural than homosexuality just because the former sometimes (rarely / insignificantly) results in pregnancy.

That you insult my mental health and imply that I am on drugs for so saying - or for not being able to grasp so basic an idea - contravenes the very laws you're forever banging on about.

We have a word for that sort o' thing, do we not?


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 01:12 PM

I'm with Jack on the "beneath contempt" line.

I'd add accusing those who dismiss his bigotry and homophobia of posting in names of others. Best bit is that then someone abuses membership knowledge to back the worm up!

Just in case anyone is interested, Akenaton thinks I am a guest called Seaham Cemetry. Well I'm not. Ironically, the person who is, someone in the greyhound racing fraternity who knows him well, contacted me. For what it's worth, I sincerely believe Akenaton doesn't kill puppies not needed for racing.

My contempt is merely based on his bigotry and astonishing belief that hate is a valid view.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 01:28 PM

"I had a look at the link. A rather hysterical Facebook sight which is most definitely NOT my idea o' fun!"

Fair enough,


There are plenty of atheists on this forum. Only a couple of them are militant. They are not much fun either. I think you might appreciate that their same tired repetition of the same insults and jokes is tiresome. At least the people on that Facebook forum are proud to be vilifying others in the name of Darwin, or whatever rather than running away from their beliefs when asked to admit that they have them.

I don't have much problem with what you said to Ake above, it is a proportional rebuttal to his comments. A little bit of sharpness in your commentary, sticking to criticism of his words and actions, stopping well short of calling him "the worm" seems like a good balance to me. I congratulate you for finding that balance and showing the proper respect for the rules.

I don't agree with you Ake if you are saying the other Militant Atheism Threads were closed because you requested that. The reason given was the bickering. Lord knows there was plenty of that in those threads for pretty much the whole duration of both of the threads which were closed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Militant Atheism Threads
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 02:12 PM

"vilifying others in the name of Darwin"

That's interesting! Give me one example of that. I've never seen it, ever. And stop worrying about me. I'm fine. It's chune and beer night!


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