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BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'

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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Aug 14 - 05:57 PM

Israel, by its attacks on Gaza, has created hundreds, if not thousands, of terrorists. Not my words but those of Paddy Pantsdown. Jesus, at last a politician of any colour who has the temerity to call Israel's actions disproportionate, indiscriminate and foolish. Paddy's always been a bit of a twat but kudos to the man for this. I suppose he doesn't have to worry about any Israel lobby breathing down his neck these days.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: bobad
Date: 02 Aug 14 - 07:13 PM

The Israeli economy is booming, as can be seen from the comments of a very wide variety of sources and experts (which John Kerry and many others should read and recognize):

• "Technology companies and global investors are beating a path to Israel and finding unique combinations of audacity, creativity, and drive everywhere they look. Which may explain why, in addition to boasting the highest density of start-ups in the world (a total of more than 3,850 start-ups one for every 1,844 Israelis) more Israeli companies are listed on the NASDAQ exchange than all companies from the entire European continent." – Dan Senor and Saul Singer

• "Israel, the land of milk and honey, is now also the home of business success, opportunity and major growth." – Hedge Fund Billionaire Henry Swieca

• "If you're going to the Middle East to look for oil, you can skip Israel. However, if you're looking for brains, look no further. [Israel] has a disproportionate amount of brains and energy." – Warren Buffet

• "[Israel is] the most important high-tech center in the world after the US." – Eric Schmidt

• "Tel Aviv has been named the second best place in the world in which to launch a high-tech startup company." – Viva Sarah Press

• "Israel has an enormous cash reserve of some $80 billion." – Hezi Sternlicht

• "Science and technology in Israel is one of the country's most highly developed and industrialized sectors. The percentage of Israelis engaged in scientific and technological inquiry, and the amount spent on research and development (R&D) in relation to gross domestic product (GDP), is amongst the highest in the world." – InvestInIsrael.gov

• "So why Tel Aviv? The city is overflowing with software developers and venture capital. Larger companies, including Google, have set up offices there. Facebook is now there, too, after acquiring facial-recognition developer Face.com in June." – Bloomberg.com

• "The Israeli startup scene needs little introduction. Tel Aviv is rapidly becoming one of the most innovative tech hubs on the planet, vying with London, New York and Berlin as Silicon Valley's second." – Monty Munford

• "Israel has a highly educated entrepreneurial community (40% with Masters/PhD vs. 42% in Silicon Valley)." – Zack Miller

• "From VC funds to conglomerates, foreign government partners to a smart international workforce, Israel has it all." – Ron Hershco, Brooklyn & Israel financier

• "Swiss research institute IMD releases World Competitiveness Yearbook, ranks Bank of Israel first among world's central banks." — Olga Viniar

• "It should be noted that Israel's ranking first in terms of the market's durability in the face of crises is the direct result of the Treasury and the Bank of Israel's actions, which withstood the pressures and did not pump funds into failing organizations and financial systems as the US and Europe did." – Uriel Linn

• "Israel is good at creating international cooperation for funding in the R&D programs they establish. And they provide a great ROI when done correctly." – Ann Liebschutz

• "Israel has one of the world's fastest growing developed economies." – Moital.gov.il

• "Israel's output growth remains relatively strong, unemployment is at historically low levels, its high-tech sector continues to attract international admiration, and new off-shore gas fields have come on stream." – 2013 Israel Economic Survey

• "We find ourselves in an age when both data is bursting forth via the Internet, and the economy continues to become more globalized than ever. For us it is a challenge, but even more, it is an opportunity." – Benjamin Netanyahu

• "Steve Ballmer [Microsoft's CEO] calls Microsoft as much an Israeli company as an American company, because of the importance of its Israeli technologies. Google, Cisco, Intel, Microsoft, eBay…live and die by the work of [their] Israeli teams…. Israel, a tiny nation of immigrants torn by war, has managed to become the first technology nation…." – Wall Street Journal

No matter what detractors of the Jewish people there have been throughout history, the Jewish people have survived. The economy of Israel will continue to thrive and grow – and when there is a will, there is a way. Indeed, as my mother used to say: "This too shall pass."


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Aug 14 - 08:03 PM

Naturally, minnow, as an antisemite yourself you are confusing criticism of "Jewish people" (which you will not hear on this forum) with criticism of the actions of the Israeli regime (which, I'm proud to say, you will hear quite a lot of). If you can't see the difference, which patently you can't, then you are beyond help (which we know anyway). As an aside to your litany apropos of how well Israel is doing (and good luck to Israel for that), bear in mind (if you have a mind: you have this tendency to quote an awful lot of other people's minds, I find...) that Israel's healthy condition is largely predicated on favourable trade deals with the US and the EU, not to speak of having to spend very little on their military, as the US pays for that (about three billion per annum at last count). Not bad for a desert nation of about eight million. I hope you won't mind the inconvenience of having this stark reality thrust into your unseeing face, minnow. I fully expect any response (don't rush - I'm not bothered) to both ignore what I've said and to include extensive and unattributed quotes from God knows where you get your lies from. Nighty night. Don't let the truth bite.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Aug 14 - 08:31 PM

Indeed, as my mother used to say: "This too shall pass."

If only I could believe that about YOU, Boo.

As my grandmother would have said, were she here today to witness your antics: "What a putz!"


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: bobad
Date: 02 Aug 14 - 08:58 PM

Just since 2001, Israel's GDP has grown 1,000 percent and its economy is now larger than Egypt's economy despite the fact that Egypt has 10 times Israel's population.

At the same time, the Palestinian Authority and Hamas have received billions of dollars in foreign aid and support. But instead of joining in Israel's modern economic boom and encouraging partnerships, the political leaders have clearly invested in rocket launchers and terror tunnels instead.

In other words, as Israel's economic success grows and the economic opportunities for Arabs in Israel grows, so, too, does the violent strategy of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad.

And as long as politics trumps economics in the Middle East, there will never be peace.

Israel's economy is soaring—why isn't it bringing peace?


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 14 - 10:14 PM

blow-bad


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 12:58 AM

Hey Steve Shaw seems you like boycotts, I noticed you've been boycotting the Israel/Palestine thread the 5pm hour yesterday. Hope the door didn't hit you in the ass on the way out. Less than 3 hours you're having truck on this boycott thread with the same people you want to ignore. You don't do boycott very well, it seems.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 03:33 AM

"Israel's economy is soaring—why isn't it bringing peace?"
Does it not strike you that trying to sell nuclear weapons to an aggressively fascist nation might have a teensy-weensy bit to do with this?
Recently I put up a link to Israel's 'Drone' industry and how they were complaining it wasn't growing fast enough.
The great contribution to modern society, the Uzi is one of theirs.
They have once again used chemical weapons in the form of white phosphorus in Gaza and have used chemical sprays to evict farmers from their lands - doesn't auger particularly well for a future ban on chemical weapons.
"Israel, by its attacks on Gaza, has created hundreds, if not thousands, of terrorists. "
For terrorists, read "opposition to Israel's terrorism".
What are you on Booboo?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 04:09 AM

You also told us they had used flechette weapons Jim, but no such things have been found.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 05:55 AM

"You also told us they had used flechette weapons Jim, but no such things have been found"
Found, photographed and produced here
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 06:00 AM

ONE MORE TIME
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 06:18 AM

Not convincing.
No such have been produced from over a thousand casualties.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 06:20 AM

Also no phosphorous burns.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: bobad
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 08:06 AM

But with the Jews coming to build up and improve the land, hundreds of thousands more Arabs poured in to get the jobs and opportunities with the Jews that they could not get elsewhere in the Arab world.

And, according to all the economic lessons we have learned about jobs and harmony, there was peace.

For more than 40 years the Arabs and Jews worked together peacefully to drain malarial swamps, remove salt from the soil and plant millions of trees. The result was mandatory Palestine was able to absorb the massive increase in Arab and Jewish population that came into the area to join in the effort.

In the 1920's a larger industrial boom began to mirror the agricultural progress and the economic prosperity really started to become apparent.

So, naturally one would think that the peaceful co-operation between Arabs and Jews increased — or at least continued — as well.

But the opposite happened.

Just as mandatory Palestine began a 400-percent increase in businesses creation, a 1,000-percent increase in the number of jobs and 10,000-percent increase in capital investment, the peaceful co-existence between Jews and Arabs was shattered. After an anti-Jewish riot in Hebron in 1923, bloodshed became more and more common. And even though the economic progress and opportunity never ceased, peace has never really returned since.

Ibid


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 08:30 AM

"No such have been produced from over a thousand casualties"
Piss off Keith - photographic evidence.
The United Nations has been asked by its own observers to consider considered whether the use the Israelis has put these god-awful weapons to in Gaza breaches International Law
You really have gone round the rabid bend.
"Also no phosphorous burns."
ILLEGAL WEAPONS
What's the going rate for being an accomplice to murder and atrocities?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 09:15 AM

No flechette casualties, no phosphorous casualties, and "nail shrapnel" could only come from Hamas rockets.
Try not to be so gullible Jim.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 07:38 PM

Hey Steve Shaw seems you like boycotts, I noticed you've been boycotting the Israel/Palestine thread the 5pm hour yesterday. Hope the door didn't hit you in the ass on the way out. Less than 3 hours you're having truck on this boycott thread with the same people you want to ignore. You don't do boycott very well, it seems.

Piss off, wanker-stalker. I'll post when I want and where I want. Get over it, and, either contribute to the conversation or just bugger off.

But instead of joining in Israel's modern economic boom and encouraging partnerships, the political leaders have clearly invested in rocket launchers and terror tunnels instead.

Well you see, minnow, Israel also invests in weaponry big-time, in case you haven't noticed. Maybe you think that it's OK for rich countries with big armies to invest in weaponry but not for piss-poor nations under siege. I love your double standard. But, unlike Hamas, the Israeli regime doesn't have to make any big decisions about how to use their dough. It's all provided by you, the yanks, no questions asked, even when they're slaughtering kids with gay abandon. Three billion spondoolies per annum at last count, for a tiny desert state, all for weapons. Not bad, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 10:28 PM

imagine

more

ah yes

and...

this

Ok... y'all go back to your bickering now...


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 04:23 AM

"No flechette casualties, no phosphorous casualties, and "nail shrapnel" could only come from Hamas rockets.
Try not to be so gullible Jim."
You have the statements from the observers - you have the evidence - you even have the photographs
You are cleraly ****** insane - thank you for representing the Israeli regime so well
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 07:14 AM

We have a photo. of some flechettes in someone's hand and some stuck into a wall.
No casualties by flechette or phosphorous.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:15 PM

Wonder why I get echoes of "Israel calling - Israel calling" every time you post.
The report of their use has been carried widely, except in the U.S, apparently
However. Israel has not offered your excuse, nor have they denied their use.
You are now propagandizing on their behalf to save them the trouble
You are a rabid moron
Jim Carroll

4:59        Randy Talbot E-mail Print
The London Guardian reported Sunday that "The Israeli military is using flechette shells, which spray out thousands of tiny and potentially lethal metal darts, in its military operation in Gaza."[1] -- B'Tselem, the Israeli human rights organization, says that although these weapons are not banned per se, "other rules of humanitarian law render their use in the Gaza Strip illegal. -- One of the most fundamental principles is the obligation to distinguish between those who are involved and those who are not involved in the fighting, and to avoid to the extent possible injury to those who are not involved. -- Deriving from this principle is the prohibition of the use of an imprecise weapon which is likely to result in civilian injuries." -- The London Independent also wrote about Israel's use of flechettes.[2] -- So did the Belfast Telegraph, which also posted a graphic RT video showing wounded Palestinians and interviewing Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, who called Israeli attacks "immensely disproportionate."[3] -- A Google News search shows that discussion of their use also appeared in articles published in Israel, New Zealand, Canada, China, France, Lebanon, Iran, and Russia. -- We have only been able to locate one article published in U.S. media about the use of flechettes, published by Newsweek, where their use is presented as merely an unproven allegation.[4] ..


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:26 PM

Jim, Russia Today is not a reliable source.
They will have easy access to handfulls of flechettes.

And, here is the header for that Guardian piece.
"Israel using flechette shells in Gaza
Palestinian human rights group accuses Israel military of using shells that spray out thousands of tiny and potentially lethal darts"

I am sure the other papers reported the same source, which 2 weeks later has not been substantiated by anyone else.

If it is true, no real evidence for it has yet emerged.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: skarpi
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 07:14 PM

Is Adolf Hitler back ?? it seems that he lives in Israel ....

:(


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: bobad
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 07:42 PM

Sad.....very sad.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 08:40 PM

Is Adolf Hitler back ?? it seems that he lives in Israel ....

Sad but True, Boo - the abused have become the abusers.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 09:05 PM

Hi Skarpi! I don't know if you noticed that I quoted Peter Ustinov somewhere above: "The Jews were the first victims of the Nazis; Palestinians the second...."


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 04:14 AM

"Russia Today is not a reliable source."
The report came directly from the Guardian and was reproduced exactly as reported - that report if freely available for access.
GUARDIAN
"which 2 weeks later has not been substantiated by anyone else."
Nor has it been denied by Isreal - you alone, having first claimed that there is nothing wrong with using this obscene weapon on civilians,and have moved on to denying its use
You are defending it without them having done so
"ISRAEL CALLING - ISRAEL CALLING"
Brings back wartime memories brrrr!!
There is no reason whatever to believe that Israel is not using such weapons - they have used them before along with other obscenities
VERMONT
That's what terrorist states do - and that's what terrorist defenders like you support.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 06:03 AM

"Jim, Russia Today is not a reliable source.
They will have easy access to handfulls of flechettes."

Haven't you realised yet Jim, that K A of H is the only person in the world whose sources are reliable.

If you made the above comment about one of his, you would immediately be accused of attacking the source rather than the substance.

It's the way he is able to twist all arguments to his own xenophobic messages.

For him, a level playing field is a forty five degree slope, with him at the higher end!


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 06:59 AM

Jim, the Guardian just reported that "Palestinian human rights group accuses Israel military of using...."

It has not been picked up since.
You know how thoroughly reported the hospital casualties are, but no-one has been found with flechette injuries.

It has all the hallmarks of a propaganda story.
You always believe all that shit without question but most of us wait for the truth to come out.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: skarpi
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 07:02 AM

Peter ,
the abused have become the abusers.
the Nazi Germany killed and abused alot of Jews on WW2 we all know that
but , what are the Jews doing know ? ..killing soldiers is one thing
but killing small children ,


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: skarpi
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 07:03 AM

it should " now " not know ...


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 07:19 AM

It's always helpful, and more accurate, to refer to the Israeli regime rather than "Jews" carrying out these atrocities. There is a very good ad published in today's Guardian from Jews For Justice For Palestinians. The broad brush is not appropriate. Many Jewish people are revolted by the actions of the Israeli regime. And I wasn't aware in any case that Israel is acting in the name of religion.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 08:09 AM

"It has not been picked up since."
Doesn't matter a toss - they've used them before, they have used them again - why shouldn't they.
You have given your blessing of their use
What more evidence can we need?
You are an arse-licking moron who doesn't even wait for the arse you are licking to fart before claiming it doesn't smell.
I suppose you know Lady Varsi has resigned from the Government in protest to the British Government's arse-licking approach to Gaza?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 08:15 AM

"Hamas has been caught using schools as military sites"
Doesn't matter a toss - they've used them before, they have used them again - why shouldn't they.
You have given your blessing of their use
What more evidence can we need?



Right, Jimmy boy?


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 09:46 AM

I wasn't aware in any case that Israel is acting in the name of religion.

Well, I dunno about that- don't they claim that God gave them the land & they occupy it by God's will?

Gott Mit Uns, ja?


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 09:56 AM

THE ISRAELI HUMAN RIGHTS GROUP B'TSELEM HAS RECORDED NUMEROUS OCCASIONS WHEN THE ISRAELI ARMY HAS FIRED FLECHETTE SHELLS, BOTH IN LEBANON AND GAZA. THE SHELL RELEASES THOUSANDS OF TINY METAL DARTS THAT CAUSE HORRIBLE INJURIES TO ANYONE OUT IN THE OPEN.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 10:02 AM

Supporting link?


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 10:13 AM

Above Brucie the Bru-ser - it's a repeat of what I've already put up - get somebody to read it for you
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 10:22 AM

In other ( honest) words, YOU do not have a supporting link.


Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 10:48 AM

Oh dear - nobody home to read it for you?
One more time
VERMONT
I neither expect a response to the facts contained in the article nor a retraction from you
As for lying - as I said - you8 have described the Palestinian people as less than human - you have advocated that they be driven into the desert where they can be cared for by their own kind, you have openly and enthusiastically supported the ethnic cleansing of the Bedouins, their being driven from their traditional homes, the use of chemicals and high powered water-cannons to force them to vacate their lands and the Prawar plan to force them to resettle on a poison filled site.
Calling me a liar is fairly insignificant from someone who makes David Irving look like a rabbi
Feel free to continue.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Musket
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 10:56 AM

The government minister responsible for faith affairs has resigned from government here in The UK, in protest over the luke warm condemnation of Israeli aggression.

Baroness Warsi said she was sickened and could not support David Cameron's government as they appear partisan and tacitly accepting Israeli aggression of innocent civilians.

Looks like it isn't just Keith's "lefty liberals" who don't like murder, oppression and accusation then.. A conservative peer in government has stood up for the Palestinian people too.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 11:00 AM

Sorry, Jimmy boy.

By the SRS Rule, the information in a propaganda site like that is NOT valid unless supported by other, non-biased sources. So provide THOSE- CNN, even BBC (not quoting Hamas).

You have stated that ALL posts by Israel are false, so I will state that ALL posts by Hamas are suspect- UNLESS you are claiming that you get special rules AGAIN.


Try again.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 11:01 AM

Jimmy,

"As for lying - as I said - you8 have described the Palestinian people as less than human - you have advocated that they be driven into the desert where they can be cared for by their own kind, you have openly and enthusiastically supported the ethnic cleansing of the Bedouins, their being driven from their traditional homes, the use of chemicals and high powered water-cannons to force them to vacate their lands and the Prawar plan to force them to resettle on a poison filled site."

Yes, those statements above that you have made ARE lies. Repeating them does not make them true.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 11:40 AM

You have the facts of the use of horrific weapons and you have had those throughout this discussion.
Your last example came from an Israeli source - Antisemitic no doubt!
Israel possesses flechette weapons and has used them on numerous occasions, as it has white phosphorus and napalm.
The use of Palestinian missiles is reprehensible, as is any weapon used on civilian areas - but they measure pretty small when compared to the approaching genocide being indulged in by the Israeli fascist regime (not just my description - go read some of the Jewish writers who are saying exactly that).
You have been given the facts of Israeli terrorism aimed at non combatants - I didn't expect for a moment you would accept it - atrocity deniers tend not to.
"Repeating them does not make them true.
Have told you were to find them
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 11:47 AM

Jimmy,

The ONLY side advocating genocide has been Hamas- ACCORDING TO THEIR CHARTER.

Israel has not inflicted anything like the level of killed to justify the use of the word "Genocide"

Other ARAB nations have killed HUNDRED OF TIMES more of a population, and you don't call that Genocide- JUST WHEN ISRAEL is responsible ( according to you0 for the deaths.

YOUR silence on the 160 children killed BY HAMAS in building those tunnels to attack Israel tell all here how much YOU care about Palestinian civilians.

NOT ONE WORD OF COMMENT FROM YOU about Hamas killing them.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 11:58 AM

Jim, most modern armies use flechette shapnel as it is a legal weapon and just a new kind of shrapnel.

You have given your blessing of their use

No, I just explained that their use is not illegal, and that no reputable journalist has reported their use in Gaza.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 12:57 PM

The ONLY side advocating genocide has been Hamas...

But then you have those that are actually COMMITTING genocide, Bullshot.


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 12:59 PM

You mean the Islamists that Jimmy and you are so quiet about?


I guess just because they are killing only 100 times as many civilians as Israel they get a pass for you and your ilk. After all, THEY are not the Evil Israelis...


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 01:11 PM

"Jim, most modern armies use flechette shapnel as it is a legal weapon and just a new kind of shrapnel."
You defendit its use - then you denied it was being used - The Isralis have refused to deny that they are using it
You are an apologist shit - they are murdering scum
"Israel has not inflicted anything like the level of killed to justify the use of the word "Genocide"
You are getting nearer the mark Beirdie by admitting that one is as bad as the other - to what extent is debatable and immaterial.
Israel has juust slaughtered around 2,800 human beings, those who were armed possessed inferior arms and were poorly trained
Israel has a highly trained army ans sophisticated equipment - they have used what they have to kill civilians, destroy homes and basic necessities of living - they are murderous scum.
If Israel has the right to 'defend itself' in this manner, then they can have no complaints when their victims retaliate to their murderous behaviour
If it hadn't been for the U.S. veto they would have been tried for war crimes long ago.
David Irving roll over, you've out-denied him and you've debased the Jewish people you claim to be speaking for.
If you are Jewish, I hope you get six million visitors every time you fall asleep.      
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: BDS of Israel 'Gathering Weight.'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 01:19 PM

So, Jimmy boy.


YOU seem quite happy with Hamas killing 160 children to make attack tunnels, to attack Israeli civilians.


Dead civilians ON BOTH SIDES, so you must be having orgasms.


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