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Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7

JohnInKansas 18 Feb 14 - 05:29 PM
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Subject: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 05:29 PM

Microsoft sets Oct. 31 as stop date for Windows 7 consumer PC sales

But extends end-of-sales date for business PCs running Windows 7 Professional

By Gregg Keizer | Computerworld US | 15 February 14

Microsoft has set Oct. 31 as the end of sales of new consumer-grade Windows 7 PCs, but for now has left open the do-not-sell-after-this-date for business machines.

On the site where it posts such policies, Microsoft now notes that Oct. 31, 2014, is the end-of-sales date for new PCs equipped with Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium or Ultimate. All three are consumer-oriented versions of Windows 7; Home Premium has been the overwhelming choice of OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) for consumer systems.

Microsoft's practice, first defined in 2010, is to stop selling an older operating system in retail one year after the launch of its successor, and halt delivery of the previous Windows edition to OEMs two years after a new version launches. The company shipped Windows 8, Windows 7's replacement, in October 2012.

The setting of a deadline for consumer Windows 7 PCs followed a glitch last year when Microsoft named the same Oct. 31 date for all Windows 7 PCs, but then quickly retracted the posting, claiming that the notification had been posted "in error."

Some OEMs, notably Hewlett-Packard, have made headlines for marketing consumer-grade Windows 7 PCs, a sign of the fragmentation of the once-dominant Windows oligarchy, which always pushed the newest at the expense of older editions. [Maybe this is an attempt to kill HP?]

But while it has established an end-of-sales date for consumer PCs with Windows 7 pre-installed, Microsoft has yet to do the same for business PCs.

Microsoft will give a one-year warning before it demands that OEMs stop selling PCs with Windows 7 Professional, the commercial-quality version. Under that rule, Microsoft will allow computer makers such as Lenovo, HP and Dell to continue selling PCs with Windows 7 Professional until at least February 2015.

It's likely that the extension will be much longer.

Windows 7 has become the standard version for businesses, which have spurned Windows 8, largely because of its two-user interface (UI) model, which they consider disruptive to productivity and a needless cost that would require employee retraining.

Most analysts believe that Windows 7 will remain the most popular Microsoft operating system deployed by companies for years to come.
"There's a good chance that enterprises will stay on Windows 7 as long as possible," said Gartner analyst Michael Silver in an October 2013 interview. If his prediction turns out to be accurate, Windows 7 may reprise the stubborn persistence of Windows XP, the nearly-13-year-old OS that Microsoft will retire in April.

Even after Windows 8's launch, Windows 7's user share, a rough measurement of the prevalence of the OS on operational machines, has continued to grow. From October 2012 to January 2014, Windows 7's user share increased nearly 3 percentage points, representing a 6% gain during that period, according to data from analytics company Net Applications.

Some of Windows 7's gains certainly came at the expense of Windows XP, which has fallen more than 11 percentage points, a 28% decline, since October 2012 as users abandoned the old OS.

By making Windows 7 available, Microsoft and its OEMs not only continue to serve customers who want the OS, but make sure that new PC sales do not slump even more dramatically than they have already.
Consumer PC sales have plummeted -- last month Microsoft said sales of consumer-grade Windows licenses fell 20% in the December quarter compared to the same period the year before -- while the Redmond, Wash. company's business line of operating systems grew 12% year-over-year. In effect, enterprise spending kept PC shipments from tanking even more than the 10% contraction the industry experienced in 2013.
Extending Windows 7 Professional's availability on new hardware will also give Microsoft breathing room to continue its retreat from Windows 8's radical shift to a touch-first, tile-based UI, and to roll out a successor that caters even more to customers who rely on keyboard and mouse.

Microsoft is expected to unveil an update to Windows 8.1 this spring, perhaps in April, that will restore several desktop-oriented features and tools. Some reports based on leaked builds of this Windows 8.1 Update 1 have noted that on non-touch devices, the boot-to-desktop option will be enabled by default; if accurate, most users of traditional PCs will skip the colorful, tile-style Start screen. Windows 9 may appear as early as April 2015.

Retail sales of Windows 7 by Microsoft to distributors and customers were officially halted as of Oct. 31, 2013, but that deadline has been meaningless, as online retailers have continued to sell packaged copies, sometimes for years, by restocking through distributors who squirreled away older editions.

As of Saturday, for example, Amazon.com had a plentiful supply of various versions of Windows 7 available, as did technology specialist Newegg.com. The former also listed copies of Windows Vista and even Windows XP for sale through partners.

Even after Microsoft pulls the plug on Windows 7, there will be ways to circumvent the shut-down. Windows 8.1 Pro, the more expensive of the two public editions, includes "downgrade" rights that allow PC owners to legally install an older OS. OEMs and system builders can also use downgrade rights to sell a Windows 8.1 Pro-licensed system, but factory-downgrade it to Windows 7 Professional before it ships.

And enterprises with volume license agreements will never be at risk of losing access to Windows 7, as they are granted downgrade rights as part of those agreements, and so will be able to purchase, say, Windows 8.1 or Windows 9 PCs in 2015 or 2016, then re-image the machines with Windows 7.

The end-of-sales dates for Windows 7 are not linked in any way to the support schedule for the 2009 operating system. Microsoft will provide free non-security bug fixes and vulnerability patches for Windows 7 until Jan. 13, 2015 -- called "mainstream support" -- and follow that with a five-year stretch of "extended support" during which it will ship free security updates until Jan. 14, 2020.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 05:43 PM

Time for Linux, I think, John. Been hesitating to switch, but this may just push me over the edge.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: Stanron
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 07:21 PM

I have just installed Linux Mint 15 on my laptop. I'm well impressed, and it's free. I would advise buying a new hard drive to install it on. Then if you really don't like it you can put your old hard drive back in and you have lost nothing.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 07:57 PM

So...Mr.J
What is your point?

You appear ancient enough understand DOS 3.0?

Linux and GNU and the newsest Mint 16.....all work from a similar "shell" command prompt. They permit you (macro} select a GUI (graphic user interface.) Or let you create your own paths from notepad type screens.

Did I mention...the price is right??? Free


Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Give Linux a spin ...life is leaner, quicker and meaner without the the "bloat." Don't get me wrong...MSFT has been VERY good to me and made me a wealthy soul... but for some fresh-home-baked-bread is superior to the waxy ball of Wonder kichen creations creations.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 08:14 PM

Skip the new HD. It screams, like it really screams, like a scolded banschee in heat from an 8 gig flash drive.

You can boot from the flash and store where you want.


Sincetely,
Gargoyle

six months later you will wonder why you ever rolled through the gate to sleep with jobs.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Feb 14 - 08:28 PM

Abandoning Windows 7 isn't exactly trying to kill it. It will still work well enough, and there is going to be lots of advice about using it which will be easy enough to find by googling. There won't be updates and so forth, but as often as not those aren't a particularly good idea anyway.

It's going free range.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 03:01 PM

I have four active machines all on different versions of Microsoft.

My reason for this is quite simple.

Microsoft is crap but unfortunately it is dominant.

The draughting package Autocad is the same and I don't have to use that, fortunately.

They insist on "upgrading" perfectly viable software or making it unusable on later versions. Examples of this are PictureIt which I still use and bugger 'em, and Access which with each successive "upgrade" loses really useful features. When you tackle them on this they insist that the features never existed in the first place.

But I care not, I am quite happy using dos on occasion as well as various other OS. The only earlier one which caused me problems was 95 or was it 98?

If it's not broken you don't fix it.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 03:08 AM

Thanks for the info John. Much appreciated.

Cheers,

Andrez


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: Andrez
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 03:11 AM

Ah, cookie lost, cookie found!

Cheers,

Andrez


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 05:11 PM

If it's not broken you don't fix it.

The difficulty with this attitude is that the malware producers keep finding new ways to break it, and eventually it becomes quite difficult to fix something that's just too primitive.

With the probable exception of Vista and Win8, nearly all new Windows OS versions have provided incrementally better security. This is very important to some people, but not necessarily a concern for the blissfully ignorant.

No one knows why either of the two exceptions were produced, other than "these are for idiots who are the only ones who will buy them, so we'll make them do just what the idiots can understand."

["idiots," in my usage isn't really derogatory, but just means people who refuse to RTFM and don't know how much fun they could have if they learned to use what's always been there.]

John (in sarcastic mode)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Microsoft Begins Attempt to Kill Win7
From: GUEST,jim bainbridge
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 11:25 AM

Business news on BBC the other day said that Microsoft is seriously considering abandoning Windows 8- normally a reliable source of information


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