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Rick Fielding 17 Nov 99 - 01:12 AM
alison 17 Nov 99 - 01:22 AM
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Rick Fielding 17 Nov 99 - 01:41 AM
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Subject: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 01:12 AM

A few weeks ago I was playing at a Winery in Niagara - On - The Lake, here in Ontario. It's a beautiful spot and was an interesting gig. I don't drink, but my fiddler does and he sampled a few vintages.
A group of reasonably young Japanese folks (tourists) came up to where we were playing and rather than ignore us, (which is par for the course when playing these kind of jobs) stayed for at least a half an hour, seeming to love our old time fiddle, banjo, guitar and mandolin tunes and songs. I was thinking "wish I knew something Japanese to play for them as a "thank you" (other than "The Dead Girl of Hiroshima"!!) when an old tune came to mind. I faked it, and they went nuts! It was a huge hit in the 60s and was entitled (probably for the North American market) "Sukiaki". The first line goes (in C) CCDECAG (2x)

Just curious if anyone remembers it, and do you think it might be from a traditional Japanese folk tune? These people wouldn't have been born when it was a pop song. It's a really nice tune. Any ideas?
Thanks
Rick


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: alison
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 01:22 AM

Sorry Rick, can't help... but...

This story didn't happen to me... but it happened to Alan of Oz... we do a lot of gigs for Japanese tourists (mainly school parties)try getting 300 Japanese boys to dance.. great fun..... most of them know "my grandfather's clock", they wanted him to sing this song.... he didn't know what they were asking for until they started to sing..... they knew it in Japanese (surprise, surprise).. so he then sang it to them in English.

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 01:31 AM

Hi Alison, good tip. "Grandfather's clock" I Know!
Rick


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: Stewie
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 01:34 AM

Hi Rick,

I recall 'Sukiyaki' from a bluegrass group in the 1980s - Spectrum (Bela Fleck, Jimmy Gaudreau, Glenn Lawson, Jimmy Mattingly and Mark Schatz. It was included on their album 'Live in Japan' which was recorded in Tokyo in 1981 and issued by Rounder in 1983 (it is still available as a cassette). On the record label it is credited to Hachidai Makamuru. As you say, it was a big hit earlier as a pop song. But, who knows, these people may have heard Spectrum live - bluegrass was big in Japan.


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 01:41 AM

God Bless you Stewie. Holy Cow..Mudcat is still wonderful!
Rick


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: alison
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 02:09 AM

Now a question from Santa... to any of you with Pokemon obsessed kids... which is better? Nintendo "Pokemon snap", or the Gameboy one?

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: Roger the skiffler
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 03:54 AM

I think one of the British trad jazz bands, probably Kenny Ball who was popular in Japan, recorded a version too that did quite well in the pop charts in the late '60s, I'd guess. I only have him on some compilation albums and not this tune.


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 07:20 AM

I dunno alison....I just know that I'm up to my ass in Pokemon shit! I trust its no cheaper in Oz? And why aren't there more jokes about it? "Pokemon" is short for "Pocket Monster" so I'm thinking of renaming my Willie. "Hey...I got your Pokemon right here!"

Truthfully, Pokemon has a lot of merit over the other popular games. At least the "fights" end in fainting rather than being stabbed, beaten, set afire, castrated, and sodomised before the guy is killed. (Wait a minute, I think that just happened in Mississippi...or Wyoming)

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: Mbo
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 08:18 AM

Rick, I know the song you are speaking of very well. "Sukiyaki" by Kyu Sakamoto was the number 1 song on the Billboard charts for 3 weeks in early 1963. It was the first song in a foreign language to get into the Billboard Top 100. When I lived in Okinawa, Japan, people always requested it on the Oldies request show ("The Vault.") I learned how to sing it, and it isn't very hard. I also sing "Shima Uta (Island Song)" which is an old Okinawan folk song. "Sukiyaki" however is NOT a folk song. Here's the whole sad story about the song and the performer (I found this on the internet):

Sukiyaki

Kyu Sakamoto

- words by Rokusuke Ei, music by Hachidai Nakamura

- #1 hit in 1963 for Kyu Sakamoto. Kyu (pronounced "cue") was one of the 520 people who died in the crash of a Japan Airlines 747 near Tokyo on August 12, 1985. He was 43.

- released in Japan as "Ue O Muite Aruko" (I Look Up When I Walk)

1.) ue o muite arukou

namida ga kobore naiyouni

omoidasu harunohi

hitoribotchi no yoru

2.)ue o muite arukou

nijinda hosi o kazoete

omoidasu natsunohi

hitoribotchi no yoru

(chorus) shiawase wa kumo no ueni

shiawase wa sora no ueni

3.) ue o muite arukou

namida ga kobore naiyouni

nakinagara aruku

hitoribotchi no yoru

(whistling)

4.) omoidasu akinohi

hitoribotchi no yoru

kanashimi wa hosino kageni

kanashimi wa tsukino kageni

5.) ue o muite arukou

namida ga kobore naiyouni

nakinagara aruku

hitoribotchi no yoru

(whistling)

-----------------------

Translation:

1.) I look up when I walk so the tears won't fall

Remembering those happy spring days

But tonight I'm all alone

2.) I look up when I walk, counting the stars with tearful eyes

Remembering those happy summer days

But tonight I'm all alone

3.) Happiness lies beyond the clouds

Happiness lies above the sky

4.)I look up when I walk so the tears won't fall

Though my heart is filled with sorrow

For tonight I'm all alone

(whistling)

(chorus)Remembering those happy autumn days

But tonight I'm all alone

5.) Sadness hides in the shadow of the stars

Sadness lurks in the shadow of the moon

6.)I look up when I walk so the tears won't fall

Though my heart is filled with sorrow

For tonight I'm all alone

-------- It is said that the song was written by Rokusuke Ei when his heart was literally broken with a Japanese actress, Meiko Nakamura. The singer was killed by a plane crash which lost more than 500 lives in 1985.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 11:21 AM

Mbo, thank you for all your effort. I'm dumbfounded!

Rick (who's still not big on anthems, but will follow you anywhere!)


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Nov 99 - 11:29 AM

GEEZIZ--I'll join you Rick, although I question whether the "founded" part applies to either of us. Great piece of work Meebo!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Pokemon, the folk song. help.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 01:08 AM

Well, I came on this thread because an unnamed Guest posted a blank message to it, which is usually annoying. But hey, I don't remember this thread, and it reminds me of Rick's unusual sense of humor. I read the first message, and I could hear his voice.
Ah, good memories. I wish he were here. I miss his phone calls.

-Joe-


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