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Folklore: Roseberry Topping and viking Cleveland

GUEST,jo_lmfcleveland 23 Feb 14 - 09:29 AM
GUEST,jo_lmfcleveland 23 Feb 14 - 09:32 AM
Ian Hendrie 24 Feb 14 - 04:32 AM
Ian Hendrie 24 Feb 14 - 06:36 AM
GUEST,jo_lmfcleveland 24 Feb 14 - 08:35 AM
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Subject: Folklore: Roseberry Topping and viking Cleveland
From: GUEST,jo_lmfcleveland
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 09:29 AM

Hello all you lovely Mudcatters! I've been an avid fan of this site for a while as the best source for folk lyrics and the history behind both lyrics and preservation - I am always astounded and delighted by the amount of enthusiasm and knowledge here! I wonder now whether any of you have any knowledge that could help me with a project I'm researching for...

I'm working with a group called 'Languages, Myths and Finds' (www.languagesmythsfinds.ac.uk) and we're aiming to harness enthusiasm for the forthcoming Vikings exhibition at the British Museum, bringing research on the less obvious areas of Viking settlement in the British Isles to those areas themselves.

As you may guess by the title of the thread, I'm working on the Cleveland/Teesside part of the project and would absolutely love to know if anyone here knows of Scandinavian or Viking-related folklore from this area of the country.

I'm familiar with the Ballad of Roseberry Topping, but I find it odd that for a hill named after the Norse god Odin (who is very rare in place-names) the hill is best known through a story about Anglo-Saxons! Similarly Loftus - an Anglo-Saxon burial was discovered there, but the place-name is about as viking as you can get!

Any thoughts from locals/those in the know? Does anyone know of any local areas or stories associated with the vikings/norse/Scandinavians?

Your help will be greatly appreciated and credited in a booklet that we are hoping to produce on the area. We'll be supplying copies of this booklet directly to local museums (whom we will also be working with!) and hope that it will continue to inspire and inform locals and visitors alike of the area's Scandinavian past, which isn't just confined to being in between York and Lindisfarne!

Many thanks in advance for any help you can offer,

Jo SB.
Project website as blue clicky!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Roseberry Topping and viking Cleveland
From: GUEST,jo_lmfcleveland
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 09:32 AM

Ah after all these years seeing others struggle with the blue clickies I have fallen into the same mistake!

Second go...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Roseberry Topping and viking Cleveland
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 04:32 AM

That link didn't work for me so try this :

http://languagesmythsfinds.ac.uk/


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Roseberry Topping and viking Cleveland
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 06:36 AM

That second link now seems to be working. Strange!

I can't contribute anything about the ancient history of Roseberry Topping but I'm certainly interested to hear more. I used to live on Teesside and climbed Roseberry Topping several times, including once to scatter a relative's ashes.

I'm not familiar with 'The Ballad of Roseberry Topping'. Is this an ancient ballad or are something more modern, e.g. as recorded by Vin Garbutt on 'Tossin a Wobbler'?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Roseberry Topping and viking Cleveland
From: GUEST,jo_lmfcleveland
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 08:35 AM

Hi Ian,

Glad to hear it's of interest! The song (legend, not ballad, my mistake!) does seem to be something older, according to this thread (or http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=30923#762646 if that didn't work). Not sure how old, but the preservation of 'Ottenberg' in the lyrics rather than the newer spelling is interesting. I suppose it could always be an antiquarian flourish, not really sure how we'd tell though...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Roseberry Topping and viking Cleveland
From: GUEST,jo_lmfcleveland
Date: 24 Mar 14 - 08:09 AM

Hello again Ian, and anyone else who might be interested in the Viking heritage of the North East!

We've got a little survey up on our website now and it would be wonderful if there are any Mudcatters who live in the area and would be willing to help us out by filling it in. It consists of a few questions regarding local place-names, dialect words and general attitudes towards the Vikings. I'm sure you're all getting sick of the brutes anyway given the coverage of the British Museum's exhibition, but we'd greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who's able to help us out.

Viking Cleveland
Or: http://languagesmythsfinds.ac.uk/north-east-england/


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