Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Apr 14 - 08:29 AM

100 sorry leadfingers
pickled 100 furry eyes
they stuck them in their stocking feet
and sold them off as pies

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Apr 14 - 06:50 AM

100 sorry leadfingers

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 16 Apr 14 - 06:49 AM

here is a recent tutorial on you tube
http://youtu.be/r0xFuEgOd3M

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Apr 14 - 07:44 PM

98 not out, your mate sounds a bit like someone called Tom.teeside tom

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Your Mate
Date: 15 Apr 14 - 06:53 PM

I should hope there are no corny songs in the book!

Now come on catters, here's a chance for Dickie to go virilant.

Will he make that magic hundred and die, eventually when his time comes, a happy man? (Or as near to happy as Dickie gets.)

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Apr 14 - 02:12 AM

I am sorry but there are no Cornish songs in the book.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Apr 14 - 06:53 AM

Nah. There was a bit of Cornwall-inspired banter in this thread several days ago. I'm just slow, that's all.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Apr 14 - 03:45 AM

Steve have you posted to the wrong thread

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Apr 14 - 08:09 PM

I've been to Cornwall. In fact, I live in it. The railway line into Cornwall, at Dawlish, was recently destroyed by big waves. As I understand it, the whole of England was temporarily cut off.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Apr 14 - 05:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlKZphms-Fo&list=UU-GtPNIEDLICv5yKnirJAPgthe good ship kangarooo tutorial

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Apr 14 - 05:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJPmk3kixeE
this might be helpful, this the sort of thing alf edwards used to do. I like to record these things because i often forget accompaniments if i dont play them for a while, so it is useful to me too, to have a recording.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 08:25 PM

"1. I am not interested in the threepenny bit. Only the very very best make it make a pleasing sound. Although it may be better than the piano or banjo."Bring back The Philistines

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Vic Smith
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 09:26 AM

Pretty much spot on, Dick, I think that I agree with everything you have written in the previous post. In fact, I'd like to develop what you say about the nature of criticism.
In my life as organiser and performer in folk music and - more importantly and frequently - in my decades in senior posts in special education, I worked out a thought process for dealing with comments and criticisms. I would ask myself a series of questions about each comment or criticism. They were:-

1] Can I do anything about this and still be faithful to the the aims and ethos of what I am engaged in?
2] Would it be possible to do anything about this comment or criticism within the powers that I am able to exercise?
3] Is there something ulterior behind this (or as Dick had implied, does it come from someone with an obvious agenda)?
4] Is the criticism valid?

Before taking any action, I would give myself the answer to 4] If I was sure that the answer was 'no' that would be the end of the matter.
If it was 'yes' then I would check that the answers to 1] and 2] were also 'yes'. Number 3] was always the trickiest to deal with (especially in education) and it often came down to a matter of clearly stating the reasons for my actions to line managers.

Of course, it works both ways. In my last ten years, part of my role in education was to visit schools and give them advice on their behaviour policies. I was also asked to act for a three-year period as a voluntary assessor for South-East Arts attending music concerts and projects that had ACE funding using their guidelines to assess whether the money was well spent. Before making comments or criticisms, I had to make sure that they were valid and that changes were feasible.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 08:16 AM

Correct, Vic, but in my opinion things have not been fine and dandy for many years, about 30, but the good clubs have survived, owing to the efforts of efficient volunteer amateurs, and a couple of clubs run by people who did it to make a commercial success have not.,and other clubs run by amateurs have closed, not necessarily because they were run badly. it could be and has been argued by some that all clubs have a limited life time.
constructive criticism is always useful, criticism that is not constructive and is made by someone with an agenda is something different.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Vic Smith
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 04:57 AM

Richard wrote:-
" Surely folk 21 is for artists and fans, not for folksong singers, innit?"

Well, that is not what it states in the ABOUT section of their group page where, at the beginning, it states:-

This group/discussion board supports Folk21, an initiative which aims to help sustain and support a thriving "guest booking" folk club and small music venue network in the UK. The group is open to anyone - organisers, would-be organisers, artists, agents and fans - to discuss the issues facing folk clubs, exchange ideas, tips and advice, as we try to help build strong network for the future.

I don't follow Folk 21 that closely by my impression is that, overall, they are achieving those aims. I'd also be interested in what you see as the difference between artists and folk song singers unless this is some tongue-in-cheek comment that I am missing the point of.

About Folk 21 Bryan writes:-
"Not individually perhaps but folk club organisers in general can come in for a bit of a bashing."

There is certainly an element of truth in what you say, Bryan, but in a board that seems to have raising standards in the organisation of folk clubs as one of its aims, there is bound to be evaluation of where folk clubs are at, criticism of where things have gone wrong and suggestions of where things could be improved.
The alternative would be to imply that things are all fine and dandy in Folkclubland which you and I know is not the case.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 08:47 PM

JACK, like you I cant be bothered, I have had a good night playing music with friends in an irish pub,
sometimes I think about retiring from the english folk scene, I certainly havent made much money out of it, I have had a couple of broken relationhips/marriage, I suppose I just like playing in folk clubs and making music , it gives me aa chance to do a different repertoire from when i am in ireland ,and i suppose i love english trad songs, making money, if i wanted to make money I would have done something else.
I used to be a newsagent and i made money but it was so boring

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 08:04 PM

I just googled "folk21" and got a couple of screenfuls of results all purporting to be it.

I can see why Dick got confused. Me too. I can't be bothered figuring out which of that bunch of independent websites, Wordpress blogs, subpages of portals, Facebook pages and whatnot is the one I really ought to be looking at if I want to find out what the organization is (if it is in fact an organization at all).

However it looks like it might be in Dick's financial interest to find out. I'm not making any money from this scene so I don't need to care.

Suggestion: start a folk21 Wikipedia page. Everybody knows what Wikipedia pages are for and how to read them.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: TheSnail
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 07:38 PM

Didn't find anything that sounded anything like Kampervan's phrase of "vindictive mud-slinging and name calling." over their either, Bryan.

Not individually perhaps but folk club organisers in general can come in for a bit of a bashing.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 06:37 PM

Why am I on this thread? What does it tell me about the UK folk scene?


Anyway, while I am here: -

1. I am not interested in the threepenny bit. Only the very very best make it make a pleasing sound. Although it may be better than the piano or banjo.

2. Surely folk 21 is for artists and fans, not for folksong singers, innit?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 03:37 PM

I am afraid that, once again, you are confused.

You wrote :-
I just had a look at folk 21 on facebook....

but you were not.....

You were confusing the discussion page Folk 21 at https://www.facebook.com/groups/313050502151758/?fref=ts

... with the listings page Folk 21 - Wazzup? at https://www.facebook.com/Folk21Wazzup

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 03:09 PM

not much discussion, a few comments from jc bedford who i believe is a folk agent,these days, but not much discussion

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 03:07 PM

I did not find any discussions, this is what i foundCreate Page
Folk 21 - Wazzup?
About
About
This is a page for members and followers of the Folk21 initiative, where they can advertise their gigs, venues, and opportunities for other musicians.
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Here is the link to the Folk21 group on fb : https://www.facebook.com/groups/313050502151758/

If you aren't already a member of the F21 page and you are in anyway involved in the small venue guest booking folk music environment do come and join us there to share your ideas, thoughts and questions and enter the free wheeling debates !

This is what we are about :

1. Folk21 aspires to be the premiere organisation in the UK to represent the interests and views of folk, roots and acoustic guest booking clubs, venues and the artists they book. We are working actively to develop the existing spokesperson roles many of us already find ourselves in, for the benefit of the group, as well as the genre as a whole.

2. Folk 21 was set up to support and strengthen the network of folk clubs and venues and foster a sense of mutual cooperation in order to make all events attract bigger audiences for the benefit of everyone associated with the folk, roots and acoustic music scene. We want to elevate the public profile of the clubs and venues across the country and help them attract a broader audience, in terms of increasing attendance numbers as well as, and we feel very strongly about this, broadening the age range of the audience by encouraging younger audiences to attend the events in
addition to promoting the booking of the less experienced younger musicians who are performing or taking part.

3. We believe that the folk, roots and acoustic club and small venue network provides an essential and important cultural role in providing developmental opportunities and showcases for both established and emerging musicians.

4. We recognise that a variety of formats can and do exist within guest booking clubs/venues and that the format is entirely a matter for the organiser of an individual club. We accept that different clubs and venues run their evenings in different ways, from concert style to floor singers and guest style, in accordance to what they feel their audience prefer. We are happy to share ideas with existing movers and shakers and with anyone who wants to get involved. We hope that together we can help to generate and spread new ideas and boost the health and reputation of the folk, roots and acoustic club and small venue network as a whole.

5. We don't want to get into the "What is folk music" argument. There are other places to discuss that, and no real answer has ever satisfied everybody. We at Folk21 acknowledge and celebrate that there are many different influences within folk, roots and acoustic music. We believe the choice of guest artists is entirely the business of individual clubs.

We hope that all of our members support us in respect of the above points and to keep discussion positive and forward thinking. We encourage maximum cooperation and communication between all of us who are involved in the folk, roots and acoustic movement in the UK to ensure we have a thriving and strong folk club and small venue network.
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Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 02:14 PM

I just had a look at folk 21 on facebook, and as I scrolled down it seemed to be people advertising their gigs, I could not see much discussion, perhaps I was looking in the wrong place?

I think you must have been. Like you, I scrolled through all of Folk 21 for 2014 and could find not one advertised gig. There were mentions for their own "Regional Days and Showcases" which are different from ordinary gigs.

Didn't find anything that sounded anything like Kampervan's phrase of "vindictive mud-slinging and name calling." over their either, Bryan.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 12:23 PM

Here is my opinion of the book, it covers song accompaniment in more depth than any other English Concertina tutors I have come across,    However it only deals with MY approach to song accompaniment, not the approach of other players.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 10:51 AM

I just had a look at folk 21 on facebook, and as I scrolled down it seemed to be people advertising their gigs, I could not see much discussion, perhaps I was looking in the wrong place?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: TheSnail
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 10:21 AM

Vic Smith
to places where there is much more sensible, insult-free discussion such as Folk 21 on Facebook

Really?

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 05:48 AM

good folk club in Waltham Abbey, I played there about 18 month ago. mudcat member Billybob has a son who puts on folk events[I Think] in Bungay Beccles area.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 05:43 AM

Herts brewers, Macs and Green King, do not do mild but Mac's AK is now called bitter but was mild.
We have music too.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Bugsy
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 05:22 AM

Not trying to hijack your thread here Dick, but I'll be based in Bungay for maybe a couple of weeks when in Suffolk and in Stevenage for a week or so when in Hertfordshire.

Cheers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 02:43 AM

If you are visiting Suffolk, there is a folk club at Bury St Edmunds, The Milkmaid, Bury also has the smallest pub in England, The Nutshell, Bury is also the home of one of Greene Kings Breweries.
I used to run a folk club there and know the town well, there is also The Everyman folk club in East Suffolk it is run by a Concertina maker.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Bugsy
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 11:51 PM

That last GUEST post was me, by the way.

Mye computer keeps signing me out.

Cheers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 09:00 PM

Thanks Vic and K/van for your comments. I've been a member of Mudcat since 1999 so I know how vindictive and spiteful some people can be and also how helpful, friendly and supportive others are.

With regard to visiting, I am coming to UK in September/October this year and am looking forward (time permitting)to visiting a couple for clubs and maybe doing a floor spot or two. I think that they'll have to be in the Herts or Suffolk area. I'm also looking forward to a pint or twelve of mild!

Cheers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Your Mate
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 11:59 AM

Dickie's gone viral or is it verbal?

Just keep Yorkshire out of it - it's got nowt to do with thee!

But you can mention your booking at the Wilsons' club - that's in Co Durham.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Vic Smith
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 11:24 AM

I left the UK in 1972 and emigrated to Australia. Over the years I've hankered after the old Folk scen in England. However, since reading this, and other threads of this ilk, I don't think I do anymore.

CHeers

Bugs

Funnily enough, Mudcat is much less full of the "vindictive mud-slinging and name calling" than it was five or even three years ago. Many enthusiasts that I know were driven away from Mudcat and on to places where there is much more sensible, insult-free discussion such as Folk 21 on Facebook by the attitudes that prevailed here.
There does remain on Mudcat, however, a hard-core of contributors whose determined point-scoring and unwillingness to listen to reasoned discussion often backed up with insults makes for a feeling of unpleasantness. You might think that they are doing irreparable harm to the British folk scene with these attitudes, but in fact they are a tiny and largely ignored minority in the what is overall a very friendly and supportive scene.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 09:58 AM

Hi Bugsy,

For the record, what goes on in Mudcat is certainly NOT a reflection of the general folk scene in the UK.

The majority of people attending folk clubs have never heard of Mudcat and many of those that have would support the message in the above post from SRS.

Mudcat is frequently useful, often informative, sometimes amusing and too often a home to vindictive mud-slinging and name calling.

But hey, that's the joys of the electronic age.

Hope you get to visit one day and see for yourself.

Regards

K/van

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 09:25 PM

The music threads are supposed to be about music, not speculation about a person's motives, private life, family health history, or any number of the other things brought up in this thread. A lot of you seem to tag along behind Dick trying to out him at every turn. Give it a rest.

SRS

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Bugsy
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 07:59 PM

I left the UK in 1972 and emigrated to Australia. Over the years I've hankered after the old Folk scen in England. However, since reading this, and other threads of this ilk, I don't think I do anymore.

CHeers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 05:44 PM

Jack, It is apparant you know nothing about the book. My whole point is the concertina is not the autoharp or the guitar or the accordion, from my own experience, I can tell you that the approach that I have on guitar and concertina are different, the guitar is a stringed instrument that can have sympathetic ringing, the concertina is a single reeded freereed instrument which in my opinion requires a considerably different approach, there is a small amount of similiarity but in my opinion it is quite small.
Jack you have illustrated on this thread that you have some previous prejudice against me, you appear to have come on to this thread with an agenda, you say you are only guessing, which suggests you know nothing about the book, you say you are not intrested in buying it, why are you bothering to keep talking about something you know nothing about[the book]and which you say you have no intention of buying, unless you are here purely to troll.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 04:51 PM

I'm only guessing, but I would have assumed that much of the content was about choice of chords. Which isn't going to be very different on concertina or autoharp (or guitar or piano or mandolin or...). I haven't seen any harmonic effect on your videos that couldn't be largely reproduced on other instruments.

Okay, maybe you don't bother discussing how to select and voice the right chord. In which case it's going to be a rather odd book.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 04:47 PM

Dave, I took one of your messages to that effect ("sweetums") - was I mistaken? As for Cornwall, that was my own guess (or presumption), now denied by Musket. Not really important to me, just because he mentioned it. In fact it is a no-no at Mudcat to leak private knowledge about others; I definitely do not want to encourage that.

My main point is that password protection would at least protect us against hijacked / faked nicknames.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 04:07 PM

When I decide to buy something, for example I bought a banjo book from Bob Clayton, a mudcat member, I decided to buy it because I thought it would be of use, I have never met Bob Clayton in person and I would not make any judgement about buying his book based upon interaction with him upon the internet, likewise a guitar book by Pierre Bensusan,
If you buy a concertina song accompaniment tutor for your autoharp because you like someones internet persona, Best of luck, but to me that is reminiscent of me buying a Harp Tutor for the Concertina, because I liked the authors internet persona, as They say in Yorkshire theres nowt so queer as folk.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 03:40 PM

Dick posted about that tutor on TheSession, about a year ago (before he got banned long-term). The resulting thread was one of the very few over there where he didn't get flamed to a crisp - the responses were fairly positive. You'd think he might have learned something from that.
Jack your post does not make sense if the responses were positive, WHY should I have learned from that?

Because on that occasion you didn't conceal your identity, and that was one reason why the responses were positive.

It doesn't look like you are actually capable of understanding why people might find lying about who you are to be a turn-off.

I like what I've seen of your accompaniment style and I could probably use it on the rare occasions when I sing (with either autoharp or accordion) but given fakery like you've tried here, I'm not likely to ever buy the book.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 02:48 PM

My partner is Cathy Cook, she is a member of the session, and at any time she can post if I wish to ask her, if I want to promote my festival.
I have no other partners on the session.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 10:52 AM

Hey, Grishka! I don't recall exposing myself or anyone else for that matter :-) And I have never been to Cornwall either. Although I have seen Dick Miles and can confirm that his accompaniment is pretty damned good.

DtG

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 10:40 AM

Dick Miles can post any time he wants on the session,he can ask his partner who is a member,and she can post on his behalf he chooses not to, he chose to leave the session discussions.The way that he did this was to have a disagreement with the owner of the session in a private personal message, he knew this would lead to his being banned, he made that choice
But at any time my partner can post, if I wish to promote The Fastnet Maritime Festival june 13 15, my partner who is still a member, can do so
Jack Campin has also decided to leave.
I have some of explained this in a polite PM TO jack Campin.
However, I query the necessity for mentioning it, WHY mention it Jack, unless you bear me some malice or are feeling vindictive, it is irrelevant. here is JACKS POST
"Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: Jack Campin - PM
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 08:34 AM

Dick posted about that tutor on TheSession, about a year ago (before he got banned long-term). The resulting thread was one of the very few over there where he didn't get flamed to a crisp - the responses were fairly positive. You'd think he might have learned something from that."
Jack your post does not make sense if the responses were positive, WHY should I have learned from that?
https://sites.google.com/site/thefastnetmaritimeandfolkfest/

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 02:27 PM

Love is a hunger that burns in my soul
But you never notice the pain
Love is an anchor that won't let me go
I reach out to hold you but you push me away
And you always convince to stay

And I wonder why we hold on with tears in your eyes
And I wonder why we have to break down to make things alright
And I wonder why I can't seem to tell you goodbye
Yeah, I wonder why

I'm no angel with my selfish pride
But I love you more everyday
But love is an anger that builds up inside
As the tears of frustration roll down my face
Why does love always have to turn out this way

And I wonder why we hold on with tears in your eyes
And I wonder why we have to break down to just make things right
And I wonder why I can't seem to tell you goodbye
Oh, I wonder why

I don't want to fight again tonight
About the little things, please baby
I just want to find my way back to love
Oh, and I'll meet you there, baby

And I wonder why we hold on with tears in your eyes
And I wonder why, wonder why we have to break down
To just make things right
And I wonder why I can't seem to tell you goodbye
Oh baby, I wonder why and I wonder why

Yeah, I wonder why 'cause I wonder why, no baby
[Incomprehensible] about the little things
I wonder why, I wonder why, baby, I wonder why
I wonder why we'll hold on, I wonder why we'll hold on

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 02:25 PM

Cornwall?

Only been over the Tamar once on my life, and that was only as far as a customer in Polbathic...

The plot thickens.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 01:28 PM

I wonder why Dick Miles didn't post under his own user name (Good Soldier Schweik)between the 20th March and today.

GSS

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 01:27 PM

The Tutor is boring, do not waste your money on it.

Subject: RE: Dick Miles Song Accompaniment Tutor
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 12:57 PM

Musket, you seem to mistake Concer Tina for Concer Nered. (The latter is a well-established "nom de plume" for a lady whose probably true Mudcat and real-life identity has been exposed by Dave Gnome and others. She wrote that she knows you from folk clubs, presumably in Cornwall, so chances are that you have seen her as well, and even chatted with her. Although she proudly posed as a "troll" and rarely produced precise statements of criticism, some of her ranting was not without cause - about your contributions or those that appeared under "GUEST,Musket", faked by herself or someone else.)