BS: Colloquialisms -Post & Define-Reprised

Subject: Colloquialisms -Post & Define-Reprised
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Nov 99 - 08:58 PM

With all of the newbies and the recent discussion on the regional meanings of "bugger", I thought it might be fun to do another one of these. To see the old threads, please go here. And, here.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Colloquialisms -Post & Define-Reprised
From: kendall
Date: 19 Nov 99 - 03:23 PM

Someone from that "other eden" would be better qualified to speak to this, but, as I understand it, a "bugger" is a man who commits sodomy. Winston Churchill said the only thing that kept the old sailors in line was, rum, the lash and buggery.. One of the sea songs I know goes... the captain of a lugger, was known as a filthy bugger, declared unfit to shovel shit from one ship to another. Lets face it..these were not choir boys.

Subject: RE: BS: Colloquialisms -Post & Define-Reprised
From: Melbert
Date: 19 Nov 99 - 04:55 PM

Kendall - that's not a SEA song, it's a RUGBY song! (it goes by the name of "the Good Ship Venus"

Subject: RE: BS: Colloquialisms -Post & Define-Reprised
From: kendall
Date: 19 Nov 99 - 07:38 PM

was the good ship Venus a football field?

Subject: RE: BS: Colloquialisms -Post & Define-Reprised
From: sophocleese
Date: 20 Nov 99 - 12:37 AM

Well it can't have been all that big as the Sex Pistols covered it...I don't think they were choir boys either.

Subject: RE: BS: Colloquialisms -Post & Define-Reprised
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 20 Nov 99 - 01:05 AM

Kendall, I agree with you on the meaning of the word bugger - round here (North Wales) if the want to make that sort of suggestion, "Sheep Shaggers" is the most popular one. Thinking of the Welsh farmer/ hick type bit there was a tale of one reasonably near to me doing something to thicken his yoghurt... I believe he lost a lot of trade because of ths rumour.

Looking at the sonng title remned me the Pogues did Rum, Sodomy and the Cash.

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: Colloquialisms -Post & Define-Reprised
From: kendall
Date: 20 Nov 99 - 08:58 AM

we used to sing this in the ship when I went to sea in the 50's..