Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: Cool Beans
Date: 09 Jul 14 - 06:42 PM

For what it's worth, I bought the Powerwerks 100, a couple of good microphones, stands, booms, cables and a stand to mount the speaker on. All from a store that's been in my neighborhood for 30 years. Sounds great. Thanks, all, for your guidance.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 12:29 PM

Behringer are very good indeed, people who rubbish them are twerps.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: GUEST,FloraG
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 12:17 PM

PA can be a bit like a black hole in the finances and using it is a steep learning curve

Ask around and see if you can borrow for the first few bookings. Better still - ask the person you borrow from to help you set it up. Getting the balance right is not automatic when you are behind the mike.

Are you a mobile performer - always moving around or do you stand fairly statically? If you are one of the former then a head mike might be best.
FloraG

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: bruceCMR
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 10:11 AM

Do not listen to people who say

"Do NOT buy Behringer it's rubbish"

They're usually basing their opinions on the products of 20 or more years ago - a bit like Skoda cars, which 20 years ago were a bit of a joke, but today are part of the Volkswagen group, and rather good vehicles.

Like all manufacturers, Behringer make some excellent products, some turkeys, and some stuff in the middle. The turkeys are becoming more and more scarce - the only really bad one these days is one of their DIs, which hisses like a bag of snakes.

Behringer these days is an arm of Music Group, who also own Midas, Klark Technik and Turbosound - kit that is not out of place at the biggest pro gigs. A lot of the R&D is shared between the higher range products and the budget lines.

Their new digital mixers are stunningly good. Their audio processing rack gear has always been pretty good. Power amps are reliable workhorses. Speakers OK. Mics Useable.

And a 3 year warranty on all products.

They're just dragged down by some people's bigotry towards the name.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 08:24 AM

the best thing is to look at what everybody else is using - doing your sort of thing. then bite the bullet flash the plastic, buy what works and what you need. no prizes for dying on your arse in this game.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: Leadfingers
Date: 12 Apr 14 - 04:49 AM

Only seen thrm 'in store' , but Yamaha do a very neat portable amp set up , all clips into one unit and is four channel , which may be useful if you ever add an instrument , or become a duo

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: michaelr
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 06:59 PM

My fiddler has the PowerWerks 100T. It's higly portable (about 2' tall), has 2 channels that can take line or XLR (mic), and sounds great. Might be just what you need. New on eBay for 200 bucks.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 06:03 PM

Get cheap pluggable guitar. Maybe a Takamine - they always plug well. Or a midrange Seagull.   Keep the Martin safe at home.

Now you only need one mic and you can enhance your stage presence.

Fender horrid. Try medium sized Peavey Escort. Or Yamaha. The Phonic box amps are surprisingly good but you will need speakers and poles. I build my own speakers (usually with Eminence drivers) but they tend to be heavier than modern plastic microshit.

SM58 is still bulletproof and usable mic. I prefer AKG but some of the current Sennheisers are not half bad.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: GUEST,highlandman at work
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 12:44 PM

Garg, I used to play a tragedy of an old electronic organ in a downtown church. Whenever the local police stopped at the intersection outside, we got to hear whatever was on their mind... donuts, the next NASCAR race, you name it.
-Glenn

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: GUEST,highlandman at work
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 12:38 PM

Spend half the budget on the speakers, half of what's left on the mics. The rest just has to function and you can upgrade it later.
Stay away from Kustom, Behringer (although oddly enough I have 2 of their low-end dynamic mics that are not at all bad) and Nady. Peavey speakers have a mixed reputation but I am very pleased with my PR12 set.
The Passports are a nice bit of gear for the money but IMO the speaker is too directional -- hard to get even coverage if the room is wide.
-Glenn

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 11:17 AM

May give you some ideas.


http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013311

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: BrendanB
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 11:05 AM

You should also get some professional advice regarding microphones, particularly for the guitar. The wrong mike will knacker your guitar sound comprehensively.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: BrendanB
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 08:01 AM

Yamaha stage pas 300 or 500. I would suggest the 500 as it allows for more flexibility which you may want in the future.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: GUEST,twerp
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 06:56 AM

Do NOT buy Behringer it's rubbish

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: Mark Ross
Date: 11 Apr 14 - 12:11 AM

JBL Eon 12 powered speaker,
Behringer Xenyx 802 mixer
http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-802-Premium-8-Input-Preamps/dp/B000J5XS3C

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 08:20 PM

Consider...variable frequency.

Note the local emerengcy bands for cross over.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

once experienced some interesting bandwidth issues when ambulence/police/fire passed within 400 meters.

Subject: RE: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: GUEST,twerp
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 07:32 PM

Fender Passport will be worth a look. The 150 is $600 in the UK. Probably cheaper in the US

Subject: Tech: Advice re: a two-mic p.a. system
From: Cool Beans
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 06:36 PM

I'm starting to get gigs that require me to have my own sound system. The first one's not until the summer, so there's time. My problem: I need something that can accommodate two microphones--one for voice, the other for my 1962 Martin D-28 that has no pickup. I'm looking for advice and recommendations. The ones that cost $1,000 (US) are a bit out of my price range.
Thanks in advance.