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BS: Islamic radicalism . . .

Musket 02 Jun 14 - 10:00 AM
GUEST,# 02 Jun 14 - 09:51 AM
bobad 02 Jun 14 - 09:48 AM
GUEST 02 Jun 14 - 09:18 AM
Keith A of Hertford 02 Jun 14 - 09:02 AM
Musket 02 Jun 14 - 09:01 AM
Greg F. 02 Jun 14 - 08:58 AM
Jim Carroll 02 Jun 14 - 08:29 AM
Musket 02 Jun 14 - 08:25 AM
Keith A of Hertford 02 Jun 14 - 08:04 AM
bobad 02 Jun 14 - 07:56 AM
MGM·Lion 02 Jun 14 - 07:42 AM
MGM·Lion 02 Jun 14 - 07:38 AM
Keith A of Hertford 02 Jun 14 - 07:31 AM
Musket 02 Jun 14 - 07:22 AM
GUEST,Seaham cemetry 02 Jun 14 - 07:10 AM
MGM·Lion 02 Jun 14 - 06:55 AM
Jim Carroll 02 Jun 14 - 05:27 AM
Musket 02 Jun 14 - 04:51 AM
MGM·Lion 02 Jun 14 - 04:47 AM
MGM·Lion 02 Jun 14 - 04:40 AM
Keith A of Hertford 02 Jun 14 - 04:27 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Musket
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 10:00 AM

What's little Michael?

Size 13 shoes, 6'4", beer gut to be proud of and a humongous great willy. My new car doesn't fit in the garage either for that matter.

You see, when people start saying horrible things about others, picking on one aspect, in the example of a GP or corner shop owner, his or her Islamic faith, I start thinking.. What trait of theirs can I pick on and have a pop at in order for them to see how it feels? You seem to be a touchy bugger who enjoys giving it out. Even light hearted comments about cooking sherry hit a nerve. And still you dole it out with absurd hatred and fear of local citizens on the basis of something you read about in a newspaper happening half way around the world. Instead of wondering what can ,be done about it, you join in the crass game of defying anyone with a dark skin to condemn it publicly or be associated.

Your refusing to acknowledge me as a result is fine, but then you wonder when young Muslims refuse to integrate in your cosy Alan Bennett world.

You are almost as sad as our resident corporal sign writer from Oswestry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: GUEST,#
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 09:51 AM

"Could someone define eminent, professional and expert for the rest of us?"

Eminent--anyone who supports a given argument
Professional--see eminent
Expert--see professional


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: bobad
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 09:48 AM

"Yup, Boo- just like The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion represent all Christians."

Another one of your false equivalences Greg - nice try but this one isn't even close - you're losing your touch. Look up Sayyid Mawdudi, Jamaat-e-Islami and the Muslim Brotherhood - you might just learn something that will enable you to make an intelligent post instead of the reflexive "whataboutery" of which you are so fond.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 09:18 AM

Could someone define eminent, professional and expert for the rest of us?


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 09:02 AM

Take any of your carefully selected "historian", or "experts"

So Jim, name one historian I have cited who was not an eminent, professional historian, or one person I have cited as an expert who was not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Musket
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 09:01 AM

I'd add homophobia to the list, but I wouldn't want to incriminate you Keith. Your support of your pet worm does that admirably. Not to mention your membership of a homophobic religion.... Kicked the misogynists out yet?

The brass neck gall of it....

In the real world, The Equality Act and it's predecessors define race, ethnicity, disability and sexual orientation. Age has a few provisos. Not least of all not to take their views seriously. The older they get, the dafter they get. Mind you, there's one or two on this thread for whom keyboard access restrictions would feature in a best interest meeting..

By challenging and ridiculing Michael, I am treating him as an equal. What's your excuse?


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 08:58 AM

Book distributed at City of Toronto's "Doors Open" festival calls for Muslims to wage a Jihad against non-Muslims.

Yup, Boo- just like The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion represent all Christians.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 08:29 AM

"Care to give an example of this latest accusation you have made up?"
Take any of your carefully selected "historian", or "experts" - you might start with the obsucure idealistic Australian sect who told you it was OK to sell arms and riot control equipment to Assad.
Plenty of others to choose from.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Musket
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 08:25 AM

Eyup Michael,

Just for you, I found your original diatribe and stereotyping discrimination.




Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MtheGM - PM
Date: 18 May 14 - 09:34 AM

... and what do you know of the thoughts and actions of your nice GP's young nephew, eh? The killers of Mr Rigby were some nice person's nephews, I expect...




And then you have the gall to try to invoke moral authority due to distant relatives being European Jews. If I were you, I'd play along with the ga ga excuse. It may increase your credibility.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 08:04 AM

Prejudiced abuse and mocking of age, infirmity and disability should be dealt with as forcefully as racism,IMO, FWIW.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: bobad
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:56 AM

Book distributed at City of Toronto's "Doors Open" festival calls for Muslims to wage a Jihad against non-Muslims.

Claims, "Jihad is as much a primary duty of the Muslims concerned as are daily prayers or fasting. One who shirks it is a sinner. His very claim to being a Muslim is doubtful."

Doors open for Muslim Brotherhood?


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:42 AM

Rejoin if you like. Or not. Up to you --

but I hereby announce that no more answers will be forthcoming from me to your pathetically petty provocations.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:38 AM

I am fortunate in remaining perfectly continent, thank you. But if I weren't, then drawing attention to the fact is just the sort of brilliant argument to appeal to your o-so-amusing mindset, eh Ian? I am sure that any elderly Mudcatters reading this, who do perhaps have the misfortune of having lost continence with old age, must be most delightedly diverted by your incomparable wit.

Oh, you really are a nasty, contemptible little specimen of uselessness. A really dismal little pain in the arse ~~ & I stress that LITTLE.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:31 AM

Keith as ever sees items he agrees with as stronger in evidence base than anything that offends his stupidity.

Care to give an example of this latest accusation you have made up?
Of course not!


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Musket
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:22 AM

Oh dear Michael, you repeated it just up the page and started it on this thread for that matter. Your diatribe earlier today is there for everyone to laugh at for that matter.

Ask nurse. She will help you look for it.

Best regards, may your continence pads never leak and all that,

Musket


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: GUEST,Seaham cemetry
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:10 AM

I fail to see how normal people are debating with these bigoted old men with no concept whatsoever of whom or what they address.

I saw active service in Iraq, Afghanistan and over a couple of neighbouring borders. I, as many others went wondering the degree to which we could relate village tribal law with the mindsets of the student doctors we trained with back in England from these countries.

Not one bit.

Just because an ill educated old man invokes the Q'ran to justify his judgement is no different to calling a Church of England vicar for a mass murderer in Alabama who says Jesus told him to go on a killing spree.

The governments of some of these countries, whilst attempting to show themselves in control, are not. Sadly, some use the lawlessness of regions as a bargaining tool for western support in propping up their own regime.

Out of interest, there is nothing new in many of these atrocities, just heightened awareness. Not a bad thing in itself but it does tend to feed Col Bigot Retd and members of his bridge club.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 06:55 AM

"Michael's linking all Muslims with radical fanatics"
.,,.
No. Wrong. Not worth going on contradicting this obsessive little tit. He's asserted this countless times, but never been able to cite the instance. So what if I said that some nice Muslim he knows might have relatives that are less nice, & might even sympathise with them on the quiet without necessarily telling His Imperial Musketness, how does that equate to the accusation above?

Oh, just shut up you silly little prat, Ian. You have as Jane Austen put it, long ceased to deserve the compliment of rational opposition.

So just piss off.

Please.

Best regards

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 05:27 AM

BRITISH BELFAST
"I miss-spelled a surname and dropped a capital."
And are quick enough to take advantage of others doing similar
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Musket
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 04:51 AM

Or..

How can anyone know more than teachers of any particular school under scrutiny?

Except the OFSTED inspectors bring outside objectivity. Having been involved in regulation myself for a few years, I see that experience and affinity bring a dimension to a debate, not an answer. An answer includes cold objective scrutiny. That's why the victims don't get to sit on the jury or bench.

Michael's linking all Muslims with radical fanatics is as piss poor as the mindset that linked all European Jews with the haves v have nots debate that was popular in the '20s and '30s. I've seen photos of the blackshirts marching, so my recollection is at least as good.

If the time of the blackshirts marching is relevant, then discuss the difference between young British men going to Syria to defend an ideal and young British men going to Spain. Both advised otherwise by the government of the day, both going for the same perceived purpose.

Keith as ever sees items he agrees with as stronger in evidence base than anything that offends his stupidity.

Well done.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 04:47 AM

Why, Keith: the unconscionable Shaw obviously considers it much more serious to lose a capital letter than to lose all one's relations in Focsani & Bucharest & Riga & Vilnius.

He really is a one, ain't he just!


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 04:40 AM

So, now: to get back to the thread's moutons ~~~

Attention to this morning's Times, which once again full of the goings-on of those stinking Sudanese persecutions of this harmless young woman that they want to whip & hang for marrying someone that one of their ignorant Islamist shitholes of a judge didn't approve of; + an account of all the institutions and individuals worldwide breaking off all contact with the Sultan of Brunei over all his nice new stone-'em & flog-'em legislation.

Come on now, all you fine champions of the intolerable: let's hear it for His Majesty the good old Sultan and His Honour the fine upstanding Sudanese judge.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 04:27 AM

I miss-spelled a surname and dropped a capital.
That does not answer or invalidate my point Steve, so here it is again.

How can you possibly know more about anti-Semitism than a Jew, especially a Jew who remembers Mosley and his Blackshirts marching through his home city, lived through the Holocaust losing family members, and made his way in institutions like the British Army?


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 04:25 AM

Why, Ake?

I shall probably have to leave this thread soon, mind, becoz I'm just beginning to enjoy it too much. Demolishing this puffed-up little yobbo Shaw's vain attempts, with his self-vaunted great intellect and fatuous claims of greater knowledge than mine of everything under the sun, is just too priceless for words. Winding him up is just becoming too addictive. Can't wait for him to come back with a few more of his poor toothless "bites" which are supposed to finish me off good'n'proper ~~ in his dreams! ~~; & his pathetic attempts to gain leverage by reminding everybody of my long-ago Jewish origins (obviously assuming all Mudcatters to be as mindlessly antisemitic as his disgusting stinking self); and my supposedly helpless & debilitating advanced age which is absolutely leaving his conceited self·regarding youthful vigour standing; and his pathetic conviction that supposedly lively young people can be any sort of match for knowledgeable & still-active octogenarians: it's all just such unholy FUN!

So come on back, Little-Shaw-O'-My-♥: Letsby Avenue! Can't wait for your next lot of idiocies... teeheeheeheehee.......   

☠〠·LoL·〠☠

~M~

Appreciate your pun on my name, btw, Ake. Not all that original, tho, as you might have anticipated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 04:11 AM

Strange coincidence, Dictionary.com has "gnomist" as its "word of the day".


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 03:30 AM

M....too much PM's already. :0)

Keep YOUR feet out of the mire Sir.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 03:24 AM

Slow-burn -- re Bibi.

Oh, you must mean Netanyahu.

Well well well: another origin-throwing antisemite emerges from the woodwork....!


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 02:48 AM

And say "Sir" when you speak to me, you disrespectful little yobbo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 02:40 AM

And what's with your going on·&·on about my age, eh Shaw-minor? You know mine - 82. But you keep everso quiet about yours. You are however, from where I am sitting, most manifestly a nasty jumped-up young upstart with a peculiarly self-satisfied but grossly exaggerated opinion of his own powers & abilities. Look at me, at my great age, running rings round you here while you pant and strain to keep up. You're not even starting to convince anyone, you silly, conceited, pathetic, mannerless little fool. And I am still waiting for all these o-so-powerful 'bites' of yours which are going to demolish me once & for all. Come on, now: show us these invincible fangs of yours -- you stupid, toothless, vain, wittering, rude, useless little fat·gob.

All the best, me-duckling - keep trying ~~

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 12:51 AM

Just a reminder, since at your request, we are washing some of this originally private bit of dirty linen in public;

Your PM quoted above was part of one in reply to one from me, telling you that, when I joined Cat 5 years ago, the late Diane Easby warned me in a PM, when I had got caught up in with you on a thread, to watch out for your notorious-to-all nasty two-faced trolling troublemaking vindictiveness & truculence; which I couldn't at the time make out as you were being, & have been since, till now, eminently reasonable and affable: and you were responding in some self-justifying apparent puzzlement, & denying ever having corresponded with Diane on any topic to your then recollection anyhow.

Still, looks as if she was in the right of it after all, eh? You obviously are a nasty truculent two-faced &c &c &c troublemaking troll at that,

aintcha, Steve Shaw?

And please consider yourself well patronised, you inconsistent feebleminded pathetic little booby, you!

Best regards

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 12:33 AM

"And cut out the PMs please. We can manage perfectly well in front of everyone else. Well, I can, anyway."
';.,.

Glad to. So, everyone, here is the PM I sent Steve yesterday, which refs back to one I had from him just over a month ago ---

Your latest effusion...         1 Jun 2014 08:40 AM         
                        Message - Steve Shaw:-
"I think that this icy attitude of mine
has rankled with some around here of more ardent inclination, but I
care not a jot. I'm a big cuddly teddy really, you know!"

you PM'd me a few weeks back.[late Apr 14]
Could have fooled me re your latest outburst. What on earth has got into you?


So where did this 'icy' but 'cuddly big teddy' go to, eh, to be replaced by this nasty resentful foulmouthed yobbo? Genuinely puzzled by the loathsome little swine's current goings-on.

& who is "Bibi" when he/she is at home?

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 06:39 PM

And how can you possibly know more about anti-Semitism than a Jew, especially a Jew who remembers Mosely's Blackshirts marching through his home city, lived through the holocaust losing family members, and made his way in institutions like the British Army?

Boo effin' hoo. What a load of emotional old bollocks. Even you can do better than that. And you can't even spell Mosley. And it's "the Holocaust". I seem to have more respect than you do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 06:30 PM

I note your multiple bad-conscience litany of posts, Michael (do get a bloody life, and I hope you're feeling better as a consequence of your cathartic exercise of spleen - it's only a sodding internet forum, you know), but the problem is that you called a perfectly reasonable (though admittedly passionate) man antisemitic, without the merest hint of justification. One has to suspect that you are actually Bibi's uncle. Or, in your case, his great-great uncle. Say goodnight to the folks, Gracie. And cut out the PMs please. We can manage perfectly well in front of everyone else. Well, I can, anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 06:22 PM

Shaw doesn't take kindly to being called out for the shite he spews. He once sent me a threatening PM for doing so that had me quaking in my boots (not really - having a good laugh at his expense more like it). Anyway - be warned.

Well, minnow, here, for your delectation and for the delectation of everyone else, are the only two PMs I've ever sent you.

[Quote](1)Bet he'll bite again, his type always do.

Troll. Go and find something useful to do.[Unquote]


[Quote](2) Know summat, mate? PMs means PRIVATE messages. However, you have my full permission to publish mine in full. On the thread. Go ahead! I hope you understand, by the way, what is meant by "in full." Anything else will be regarded as a breach of confidentiality and I'll report you. Have a nice day, whoever you are.

In full, OK? No allusions, yeah? Go for it![Unquote]

There ya go. Permission to publish any of my PMs in full, but only in full, so as not to misrepresent. Some dark threat, eh? Be warned, guys!


Minnow! Got anything useful to say, preferably not Islamophobic for a refreshing change? Can you manage more than one line, or do you prefer to hide behind your "sage-man-of-few-words" bullshite persona?


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 05:25 PM

before the rise of the Right, under a Socialist government, it was fear of Islamists causing the exodus of Jews from France.

One word for you, FW: Dreyfuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 02:00 PM

I've dealt with Mr Patel's nephew already, Ian. & with the fact that you don't know what Mr Patel really thinks & he's not going to tell you. If you regard this as a general attack on all law-abiding anything-whatevers, then I fear you are deluded. But that's not news, you poor old fellow. Better call that 'nurse' of yours to minister to your own goodself, my Dilly-Duckling...

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 01:56 PM

"Not just typos Jim, but that was a classic."
Which you seem to be using to divert attention from the fact that you totally refuse to acknowledge the fact the European fascism is still with us and has never really gone away - including the British variety.
You're a bit of a mess really, aren't you?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 01:51 PM

So Musket, what is that sweeping statement that needs evidence?
Come on.
Perhaps this time I can't produce any.
Go for it Musket.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 01:48 PM

Not just typos Jim, but that was a classic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 01:10 PM

"Jim Carroll
Fanatiacal ptatt
Jim Carroll
Typos - is that all you've got, you pseudo-Christian braindead?


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 12:54 PM

You appear to be absolving indigenous antisemitism in order to pin it on the Muslims - does your sectarian hatred have no limits?

No Jim.
You Sunday Times piece makes clear that, before the rise of the Right, under a Socialist government, it was fear of Islamists causing the exodus of Jews from France.
It specifically refers to the shooting, "The number of French Jews moving to Israel doubled to 3,374 in 2013, after the killing in Toulouse the previous year by a French-Algerian anti-Semite of seven people, including three stu¬dents at a Jewish school."


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 12:47 PM

Hang on, here comes my fat gob.

"Mr Patel's nephew."

Nurse ! Michael is out of bed again!


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 12:46 PM

Jim Carroll
Fanatiacal ptatt
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 12:40 PM

Ian loq: Michael accuses others of anti semetism then repeats his awful slur on decent law abiding Muslims.
,..,.,
Quote this 'awful slur' please, Ian, so that I have some idea what the blazes you might be on about; I have not at present the least notion what you may be referring to: unless you mean that I suggested that any decent law-abiding person might have some relative who is less so; which seems to me a pure statement of fact -- everyone is related to someone who is decent & law-abiding, so what is a slur in saying that the latter might have a relative who is the former? It doesn't apply specifically to Muslims or anyone else, but is a mere statement of an evident commonplace.

If that is not what you are drivelling on about, then be so good as to specify what you do mean.

Otherwise, just shut your stupid fat gob, eh? There's a good fellow.

~M~


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 11:58 AM

"Your Sunday Times piece made clear that Jews are fleeing France in fear of the Islamists, the rise of the Right just ringing "more alarm bells.""
You appear to be absolving indigenous antisemitism in order to pin it on the Muslims - does your sectarian hatred have no limits?
Antisemitism is on the rise in Europe because of the increase in popularity of extremist right organisation expressing views like yours.
Of course there is Muslim antisemitism, just as there is Jewish Islamophobia - there is a Muslim-Israeli territorial war taking place in the Middle East, but the institutional brand in Europe is the most indicative of what is happening there, and it is the most dangerous because it knows no religious or racial limits YOU HAVE TOTALLY IGNORED THS FACT - UP OUR OWN HOME-GROWN RACISM, IT WOULD APPEAR
Jim Carroll
Fanatiacal ptatt
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 11:33 AM

Musket, what "sweeping statements" have I made.
I am sure I can produce evidence if required, but for what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 11:31 AM

Greg, some of them were heads of state, and all of them quoted by someone trying to prove that Christians are NOT the most persecuted.
(That was the "agenda" Dave)

Some research evidence was also quoted Greg.
You are being too hard on poor Jim's link.

Jim, Your Sunday Times piece made clear that Jews are fleeing France in fear of the Islamists, the rise of the Right just ringing "more alarm bells."


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 11:30 AM

Michael accuses others of anti semetism then repeats his awful slur on decent law abiding Muslims.

Keith meanwhile makes his usual sweeping statements in a style he'd scream for "evidence" of if more rational people had said it.

Perhaps one day society will learn to suck each other's cocks but till then, fear and mistrust of neighbours prevails.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 10:57 AM

Here are a few more people who make the "preposterous claim"

I didn't ask for a list of more people spouting bullshit, FW - I asked for evidence.

Which you did not supply.

As per usual.

Now awaiting your usual spin doctoring.


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 10:43 AM

"Jim, the shooting of Jews in France was by an Islamist."
It doesn't matter who the **** did the shooting - the racist response of the police and the neighbours of the lady interviewed indicate an institutionalised racism in Belgium.
Antisemitic attacks in Europe are long term facts of life for Jews living there.
Attacks on homes of asylum-seekers are exclusively carried out by the indigenous populations throughout Europe - a disturbing rise of those attacks has been reported today in British/Christian Northern Ireland.
Election results recently have shown a disturbing rise in support for fascism in Europe - twelve countries in all - not (yet) counting Britain - all the candidates, white, Christian and indigenous - not a Muslim among them.
It seems from here that people (so-called Christians) like yourself are happy to ignore this, and go along with them as long as they include Muslims as the targets of their (your) hatred)
Once again - you have the situation in Christian Europe, yet you continue to ignore it.
Long live us white Christians eh?   
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
From: bobad
Date: 01 Jun 14 - 10:38 AM

Well, here's some good news for a change, we can only hope that those Imams who prescribe it take heed: "Ulema Council says so-called 'honour killings' are un-Islamic and sign of ignorance, ahead of June 5 meeting."

Pakistan clerics issue stoning death decree


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