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The Beverley folk festival FRINGE

del boy 29 Apr 14 - 05:54 PM
GUEST 12 May 14 - 01:47 PM
GUEST,beverley regular 13 May 14 - 06:39 AM
Michael 13 May 14 - 08:30 AM
GUEST,beverley regular 16 May 14 - 07:17 AM
GUEST,guest 16 May 14 - 08:25 AM
GUEST,Another Guest 17 May 14 - 09:09 AM
GUEST 17 May 14 - 09:38 AM
Richard Bridge 17 May 14 - 11:58 AM
GUEST,Dáithí 19 May 14 - 06:29 AM
GUEST 19 May 14 - 06:39 AM
GUEST,beverley regular.. 19 May 14 - 07:06 AM
GUEST,henryp 19 May 14 - 08:04 AM
Sir Roger de Beverley 19 May 14 - 10:53 AM
GUEST,beverley regular 20 May 14 - 06:56 AM
Sir Roger de Beverley 20 May 14 - 07:17 AM
GUEST,Any Guest You like 20 May 14 - 07:44 PM
Sir Roger de Beverley 21 May 14 - 06:05 AM
GUEST,beverley regular 27 May 14 - 06:53 AM
GUEST,beverley regular 30 May 14 - 07:13 AM
Vin2 30 May 14 - 06:07 PM
r.padgett 31 May 14 - 09:32 AM
Sir Roger de Beverley 31 May 14 - 02:07 PM
GUEST,beverley regular 02 Jun 14 - 07:01 AM
GUEST 02 Jun 14 - 07:30 AM
GUEST,Guest 02 Jun 14 - 08:28 PM
Joe Nicholson 03 Jun 14 - 06:32 AM
GUEST 03 Jun 14 - 08:16 AM
GUEST,Last Guest but one 03 Jun 14 - 12:11 PM
Joe Nicholson 03 Jun 14 - 02:19 PM
Richard Bridge 03 Jun 14 - 06:43 PM
GUEST,Last Guest 03 Jun 14 - 08:00 PM
Richard Bridge 03 Jun 14 - 09:14 PM
GUEST 04 Jun 14 - 03:43 AM
Richard Bridge 04 Jun 14 - 03:57 AM
GUEST,Sidewinder 09 Jun 14 - 07:27 AM
Michael 09 Jun 14 - 09:12 AM
GUEST,beverley regular 10 Jun 14 - 06:45 AM
r.padgett 10 Jun 14 - 01:20 PM
GUEST,Sidewinder. 12 Jun 14 - 07:12 AM
Michael 12 Jun 14 - 06:13 PM
GUEST,MC Fat 15 Jun 14 - 11:24 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 15 Jun 14 - 11:28 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 16 Jun 14 - 05:47 AM
The DeanMeister 16 Jun 14 - 05:50 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 16 Jun 14 - 06:09 AM
Sir Roger de Beverley 16 Jun 14 - 07:19 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 16 Jun 14 - 07:57 AM
Sir Roger de Beverley 16 Jun 14 - 10:56 AM
The DeanMeister 16 Jun 14 - 12:14 PM
GUEST,old git 16 Jun 14 - 06:50 PM
GUEST,Raggytash 17 Jun 14 - 03:24 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 17 Jun 14 - 07:38 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 17 Jun 14 - 08:53 AM
GUEST,Beverley regular 17 Jun 14 - 01:49 PM
GUEST 17 Jun 14 - 05:19 PM
GUEST 17 Jun 14 - 07:29 PM
GUEST,Raggytash 17 Jun 14 - 07:31 PM
r.padgett 18 Jun 14 - 01:53 AM
GUEST,Beverley regular 18 Jun 14 - 04:27 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 18 Jun 14 - 05:29 AM
GUEST,MC Fat 18 Jun 14 - 09:39 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 18 Jun 14 - 12:57 PM
Carol 18 Jun 14 - 01:51 PM
selby 18 Jun 14 - 03:37 PM
Les from Hull 18 Jun 14 - 04:00 PM
Kampervan 18 Jun 14 - 05:11 PM
GUEST,One of the many guests 18 Jun 14 - 08:09 PM
GUEST,MC Fat 19 Jun 14 - 06:44 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 19 Jun 14 - 07:04 AM
GUEST,LK867 19 Jun 14 - 07:04 AM
Joe Nicholson 19 Jun 14 - 11:00 AM
Sir Roger de Beverley 19 Jun 14 - 02:10 PM
Carol 20 Jun 14 - 05:15 AM
Joe Nicholson 20 Jun 14 - 08:11 PM
GUEST,MC Fat 21 Jun 14 - 07:41 AM
Kampervan 21 Jun 14 - 01:11 PM
GUEST,Beverley regular 21 Jun 14 - 02:18 PM
Carol 22 Jun 14 - 01:40 PM
GUEST,MC Fat 23 Jun 14 - 06:43 AM
OlgaJ 23 Jun 14 - 07:38 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 23 Jun 14 - 08:49 AM
OlgaJ 23 Jun 14 - 09:42 AM
Sir Roger de Beverley 23 Jun 14 - 12:35 PM
selby 23 Jun 14 - 02:45 PM
r.padgett 24 Jun 14 - 01:46 PM
GUEST,Joe G 24 Jun 14 - 02:51 PM
GUEST,Big bird 24 Jun 14 - 04:48 PM
GUEST,Sidewinder. 01 Jul 14 - 07:24 AM
GUEST,el ted 13 Jul 14 - 06:00 PM
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Subject: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: del boy
Date: 29 Apr 14 - 05:54 PM

THE BEVERLEY FOLK FESTIVAL FRINGE
Friday 20 Saturday 21 Sunday 22 June 2014
The Beverley FRINGE is held in three pubs Hodgsons ,The Sun Inn and The Tiger Inn. We will be having sessions singarounds, open mics and live performances. Please come and join us and join in
Hodgsons
Friday night at 7 30pm The welcome session with Les & Maggie
Saturday 1 00pm session with Derek Waudby Saturday 3 00pm session with Carol Southwell Saturday night 7 30 session with Jim McDonald
Sunday 1 00pm session with Derek Waudby Sunday 3 00pm singer songwriter session with Martin Wharton Sunday night 5 30 Survivors session with Les & Maggie....
Sun Inn
Friday night music and song free and easy
Saturday 1 30pm music and song The big session with John Shuttleworth
Sunday 1 00pm session with Jim McDonald....
The Tiger Inn
Friday night 8 00 music and song session with Jo and Graham
Saturday 1 00pm Americana meets Country session with John Yerman and John Nixon Saturday 5 00pm open mic with Derek Waudby Saturday night 7 30 Showcase night with 8 live acts
Sunday 1 00pm music session with Gordon Bown....


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 12 May 14 - 01:47 PM

back to top


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 13 May 14 - 06:39 AM

Yeh, load of all amateurs and has been buskers. but what is happening at the REAL festival?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Michael
Date: 13 May 14 - 08:30 AM

You can find out here :http://www.beverleyfestival.com/programme/2014-artists.html


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 16 May 14 - 07:17 AM

Thats better.. might go to this..went to this so called fringe for a coupla years..load of chancers and meeling folkies in a coupla pubs..Thought Sun might be a little better..but no!!! So called singaround run by a cou;pla big fat drunks who did not seem to know what they were doing...Hey Ho!! its the race course for me to see some class.Chris Wade really knows how to put a festival on!!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 16 May 14 - 08:25 AM

Must be a bit sad being a regular who is not on the mailing list?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Another Guest
Date: 17 May 14 - 09:09 AM

Surely it should be the festival CRINGE??


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 14 - 09:38 AM

The last three guests are a sad lot. More power to the fringe I say. At least it is in Beverley!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 May 14 - 11:58 AM

Agree with guest 0938 Mudcat time.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Dáithí
Date: 19 May 14 - 06:29 AM

The Fringe looks a better bet than the programme. Not much of a showcase for new or existing traditional style musicians, I think...


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 19 May 14 - 06:39 AM

before the fest moved to the racecourse it used to be so easy to wander into town on foot to see what was going off in the pubs. I do miss that!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular..
Date: 19 May 14 - 07:06 AM

Oh Dear the old old story how good the last one as and how easy it was to wander from pub to pub.The race course is in easy reach of the town and there are buses laid on for the more lazier of. you.Let us face it, the so called "fringe" has never had any thing to do with the main fest..and even if the fest could be fitted into the beverley square very few would be intrested in paying to go to this event.They are intrested however in free beer provided by the pubs and free camping provided by the festival..and lets face it that is the real beef if they were honest.Other festivals are held out of town and they suffer no probs.

But no!!!! the little "elite" of so called musicians and singers would rather sit smugly in their own little dream world slagging of real musos who gather at festivals to entertain EVERYONE not just there own little heas up ass clique.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 19 May 14 - 08:04 AM

I've got my tickets for the Racecourse.

There's a great line up of runners - I can't wait for the off!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 19 May 14 - 10:53 AM

I'm hoping to get across for the fringe events on the Saturday. I especially like the idea of the two John's country/americana session.

R


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 20 May 14 - 06:56 AM

Ah them was the days eh?Rog.When you ran the peoples voice and it was ALL inclusive..happy days but we must move on and keep music live..

We dont do that by distancing ourselves to what is going on.Give the Beverley fest. a chance it only ran the one year on the racecourse so a lot of hitches.You dont solve any of that by smugly sitting in pubs saying you are the real face/authority of local music.

The so called fringe is only a very small part of what Beverley fest has to offer.You cant even field local MCs to rtun your "Sessions?" bringing in people from Hartlepool and Sheffield.

Some of the best MCS like Sir Rog and the big lad who run Monks sessions have left the area and moved on.

So come on ..Chris Wade and her team has bent over backwards to put on one of Britains top festivals..a familly festival Beverley can be justly proud of.

Let us all give her our unstinting support..


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 20 May 14 - 07:17 AM

I agree with you that there is a place for both and the festival does so too by advertising the fringe on its website and running shuttle buses into town.

Unfortunately, I can only make it for a few hours this year, so am hoping to catch up with some musicians from the old days (its five years since I moved to Knaresborough) - no disrespect to the festival at all.

R


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Any Guest You like
Date: 20 May 14 - 07:44 PM

Come along Roger dear boy!

So just how far is it from Knaresborough to Beverley?

Especially when it involves something you claim to support and admire.

Tut!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 21 May 14 - 06:05 AM

Unfortunately I now find that I am working in Leeds on the Saturday so won't get across to the Americana session after all:-(

R


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 27 May 14 - 06:53 AM

No ..not having a go at you dear boy..you are definatly a gentleman in evry sense of the word.

But some of teh so called "Fringe" all they are inrested in is their own little corner own little circle of smug little pals therir own little in jokes.

I have seen at first hand good decent musicians been frozen out ot these little cliques

.Not only at teh festival but on a regular basis..The Sun being a prime example.Whoever is running these so called "singarounds" Have a lot to learn in folk etiquette.

At last years Festival, the two big fat drunken buffoons who were in "charge" of the so called sessions in the Sun were an absolute disgrace.

Putting there own matwes up tiome after time, Of course this was when they werent lurching to the bar for teir umpteenthe free pint...!!!

This aint folk music..this aint inclusive this does not encourage
anyone to be part of it.


As an earlier Guet observed, festival fringe..Festival Cringe moor like.

I am going to buy me a ticket and go and listen to some real music by real people who actually CONTRIBUTE something to music


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 30 May 14 - 07:13 AM

No comeback Eh? gutless as well as smug....


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Vin2
Date: 30 May 14 - 06:07 PM

Anyone know of reasonably priced B&B's around Beverley ?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: r.padgett
Date: 31 May 14 - 09:32 AM

We all are looking for audiences! Folk clubs are an endangered Bpecies albeit that many folk club singers are at Beverley festival whichhas always to my knowledge had booked guest and folk clubs and singarounds ~ I believe that I and John Booker ran the singaround in the Sun/Tap for nigh on 10 years and Jim McDonald, Les and Maggie and Mick McGarry and Beverley folk club residents have all contributed over the years and Derek Waudby recently!

The booked guests need a paying audience, and not all "punters" are singers/musicians etc and need to be entertained professionally (that is to a good standard) and so "flavour of the month" and up and comers as well as established acts are all "booked" (my opinion of course) hope Beverley folk fest has something for everyone!

Ray


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 31 May 14 - 02:07 PM

the one that I know has been used by festival goers in the past is the Eastgate Guest House. I no longer live in Beverley but here is their website:
http://www.eastgateguesthouse.com/


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:01 AM

One way of getting performers to the so called fringe..and injecting a bit of proffessionalism into otherwise dreary repetative amatuers and book singers, would for the paid artists to have it written into their conracts that they would attend singarounds and do a spot.


I believe Mick and Shanty Jack did this in The Hull Shanty Festival and Mick in The Beverley Shanty fest and Hull festival last year and it worked splendidly.

This would have course meant that some of the so called fringe people would have to get off their arses and approach Chris Wade..but there again you can't have everything you wish for?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 07:30 AM

It would seem that some people, especially one's from Hull who are "Beverley Regulars", could fall out with their own shadow.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 02 Jun 14 - 08:28 PM

Nothing new about asking booked guests to support singarounds.

Whitby Folk Week were doing this 30 years ago and it worked.

But that was in more enlightened times.

Jim Mageean stiil invites booked guests to his (WFW) shanty sessions and that also works.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 06:32 AM

You can have a problem with booked guests when they are advertised in the programme as appearing at the singaround because you could find you have a lot of ther fans turn up just to here them and then go away after they have performed leaving you with a half empty room.

Joe Nicholson


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 08:16 AM

A lot depends on choice of guests and the style of the event. It takes some very careful programming to get the balance right.

"Salting" an official festival singaround with some experienced performers is a good idea but if the object is to provide an experience for singers rather than a non participating audience then publicising their names probably isn't advisable.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Last Guest but one
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 12:11 PM

WFW got the booked guests to run the singarounds.

Vis a vis Jim Mageean and his shanty sessions - they are always full all the time.

And do a great job raising money for the Lifeboat.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 02:19 PM

Yes having guest running singarounds is fine but not a good idea to have guests being advertised in the programme and doing a spot then leaving is not a good idea.

Joe N.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 06:43 PM

Jim is a great personality


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Last Guest
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 08:00 PM

Agree with you Joe about guest in and out but of course WFW was never guilty of that error - back in the day.

But to get back to fat Bs on free ale, that never used to happen either, anywhere. A very recent phenomenum.

AND, Steve Heap used to run singarounds at Cleethorpes. How are the mighty risen?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jun 14 - 09:14 PM

If anyone wants to see a fat man on free ale running a sinaground, I am doing the Saturday song/session at Karen's birthday party at the GI in Rochester Kent on 28th June. Temperance songs may well be scarce.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 14 - 03:43 AM

up


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jun 14 - 03:57 AM

why?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Sidewinder
Date: 09 Jun 14 - 07:27 AM

Any Moonbeams at Festival this year & if not, why?

Regards.

Sidewinder.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Michael
Date: 09 Jun 14 - 09:12 AM

Moonbeams at Beverley:


http://www.beverleyfestival.com/programme/moonbeams-sessions.html

Oops! It didn't go blue but you can copy and paste.

Mike


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,beverley regular
Date: 10 Jun 14 - 06:45 AM

Nothing wrong with EXPEERIANCEd people running singarounds and getting rewarded.

It is when they are ther just there for the beer and /or looking after their little cliques it gets objectionable.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: r.padgett
Date: 10 Jun 14 - 01:20 PM

The payment of free beer etc to singaround hosts should be barred!

Payment in cash is the proper way as the workman should not be paid in "Tommy notes" whilst wife and bairns starve at 'ome!!

Payment in beer means that the pub will not show any payment and be written off in the books

The workman is due his share in money

Ray


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Sidewinder.
Date: 12 Jun 14 - 07:12 AM

Thanks Mike,
Unfortunately, I am a technophobe, and am still in the dark as to what is going on?

Regards.

Sidewinder.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Michael
Date: 12 Jun 14 - 06:13 PM

Sidewinder; copy and paste the address into the blank space at the top of your screen in a new tab.

Mike


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 15 Jun 14 - 11:24 AM

Oooh Matron. Well Beverley Regular I am one of those Two Fat Drunken Bastards who run the singarounds in the Sun ....praise indeed. I am called Jim McDonald (although I post under the obvious name of MC Fat). The thing is I haven't a clue who your are apart from you vitriolic character assasination of moi. In point of fact I don't believe me or Chris Mullins were drunk. We did partake of some sherbits but not incapable. As for failing to run it properly then I would dispute that also. You see in my 40 YEARS of experience I have run singarounds and sessions throughout the country and I am frEquently rebooked (so obviously those organisers must disagree with your view) pride my self of incusion and not simply putting pals on(so obviously organisers must disagree with your view on that too). Running a session in an open pub is difficult because not ALL the people are there for the music. I will end by asking what your experience of running such events are and suggest that if as suspect you couldn't run a bath then you should politely shut your gob you self opinionated prat.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 15 Jun 14 - 11:28 AM

I would also like to say I have been going to most of the Festivals at Beverley runninbg singarounds folk clubs and MC'ing concert. I know Chris Wade very well and she is good organiser but has wanted to move the Festival away from the town for year's and has now got her way. She should beware though look at what has happened to Shepley


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 05:47 AM

Chris Mullins the other Big Fat Drunk send his fraternal greeting too Beverley Regular and says he can't wait to shake you warmly by the throat


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 05:50 AM

Hear hear, Jim. Was always a good session in our day, eh? I challenge you to a duel for the hand of the fair Big Bird.... ;)


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 06:09 AM

Sure did Deano can you e-mail me on jimmcfb@aol.com. I need to post something to you


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 07:19 AM

Mr Fat stepped in at little (make that no)notice to run the singaround in the Sun for the People's Voice Festival in 2002 when the festival proper took a break and the chaps we thought were going to run it didn't show.He has done so pretty much ever since.

He did a great job then and continues to do so.

R


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 07:57 AM

Aha ! A challenge for my liege Lord. Never fear sire your faithful old retainer will be at your side as in the past. We cannot have these knaves and harlots offering duels without defending old England and St George (and any other pub)with our full and overwhelming might. I shall polish the armour immediately.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 10:56 AM

Although now residing in foreign lands (the North Riding), I still like to keep an eye on my fiefdom to see that all is well.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 12:14 PM

Fighting talk, Raggy. I have some trusty new retainers in the Channel Islands to keep you in check :)


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 16 Jun 14 - 06:50 PM

ah! Duels revisited!!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 03:24 AM

Ah Deanmeiste, you are relying on the untrustworthy French yet again! Thus it has been for a millennia.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 07:38 AM

Interestingly Deanmeister is an anagram of Desmentiera the definition of which is "to belie or give false representation" so perhaps you are in good company with the French.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 08:53 AM

See 'Beverley Regular' is conspicious by his/her absence. can't play when the big boys come out Eh ?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Beverley regular
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 01:49 PM

A bit aggressive phatboy!?
Intresting reading your post tho..especially the referance to Shepley.. it is amazing that you warn Chris Wade about following their lead when you and the rest of the so called beverley fringe do just that when you distance yourselves from the real beverley festival..


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 05:19 PM

What is it that winds some people up about the Fringe? I've been to around 20 of the festivals at Beverley over the years, starting in the late 80's and I've enjoyed every one.

I've always had a full priced weekend ticket and I think that I've been to around 1 organised concert on each weekend. The rest of the time has been spent at the fringe.

It's not either/or. They co-exist symbiotically. Without the fringe the festival would never have got my ticket money. Without the festival, the fringe would lack a lot atmosphere. I don't distance myself from the festival, its great; but I prefer to be in a pub, singing or, when it's not my turn, listening to other people singing.

And I have to say that the fringe has had some of thebest organised singarounds that I have come across. From the Barnsley Boys, in the early days, through Les and Maggie, Mick M and others up to McFat et al latterly - they're brilliant.

This mealy mouthed criticism of the fringe and the dedicated people who keep it going is not justified. The festival has changed, it has always changed. For the better or the worse depends on your point of view. But it works and it thrives. So does the fringe and long may it be so.

K/van


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 07:29 PM

Kampervan, Jim et al, At a guess I would suggest that "Beverley Regular" is someone who may, in the past, have been asked to run a sing-a-round. As such have fallen into the traps that befall many the people who do so. They recognise faces, they know they can sing and they tend to target them because you know they can do a bit. If I am correct "Beverley Regular" is quite capable of falling out with themselves never mind anyone else. They have become a troll and should be treated as such.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 07:31 PM

Sorry the above was me !


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: r.padgett
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 01:53 AM

The REAL Beverley folk festival?

Probably depends who you are and what you were looking for and why you went and did you get what you went for?

Ray


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Beverley regular
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 04:27 AM

nice post from mr.whitby..he above all others is very well qualified to comment about people being sble to fallout with themselves.....


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 05:29 AM

Aggressive moi. I wouldn't waste that on you 'Beverley Regular'. Were you not breast fed when you were a kid or summit ? Because the agression seems to be coming from you. I also wouldn't 'warn' Ms Wade (who i have known personally since the Festival started). Thanks for the many positive posts folks. I shall see you at'Weekend, I might even let Beverley Regular buy me a pint.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 09:39 AM

Practising my Partick Kiss at the moment


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 12:57 PM

Mr "Beverley Regular" at least I have the courage, unlike you, to append my own name to my posts. I suspect you are also "concerened" and "Ull Lad".

Frankly I, and I would think many others, find you as boring in your posts as you can be in person.

Moderators. I apologise to you all. But as you are aware we have suffered from this bigoted b*s***d for some time. Is it possible to block his contributions?.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Carol
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 01:51 PM

Don't know who the bad tempered b is but hope don't meet many of that ilk in Beverley, never have before.
However looking forward to the Beverley Fringe and meeting up with some 'old' friends.
I supposes I should put my hand up as the one from Hartlepool, however I did run SARs at Beverley Fringe when I lived in Rawcliffe and was a regular floor singer in the Sun.
Roger used to share 'free beer tickets' out among the regular singers which I have to admit I always thought was the fairest method - without the regulars there would be no singarounds to run, assuming they need running at all !


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: selby
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 03:37 PM

Why does mudcat always descend into "war"over the most trivial things.
If you don't like what goes off at singarounds, input to the organisers and ask to organise your own singaround or vote with your feet and don't go to the one being run. I have been in singarounds where cronyism takes place
I would suggest that those who give up their time to run singarounds be aware cronyisim does happen and although the reasons may be valid it is a trap waiting for you
Keith


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Les from Hull
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 04:00 PM

Of course this doesn't make me at all nervous about running singarounds in Hodgsons this weekend. If you don't like the way it's being run, don't bother to tell me. No, save it all up for an anonymous Mudcat rant.
And if anyone thinks they can make a better job of it, with people coming and going all the time, changing seats, asking to be put on out of turn, demanding that their mate has a go, giving up three quarters of the way through a long song and then starting another even longer, well they're welcome to it.
For all others, friends old and new, I hope we will all enjoy the excellent singarounds we always seem to get in Hodgsons.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Kampervan
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 05:11 PM

Well said Les.
Won't be there this year but, hopefully, next.
In the meantime have a great weekend and I hope that your sessions are as good as they always have been.

Cheers

K/van


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,One of the many guests
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 08:09 PM

Whoops - hit the wrong (or probably right) button.

Who the hell is the mr whitby referred to in an earlier post???

Or is it a misrepresentation?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 06:44 AM

Glad this 'discussion' has got round to the points made in the last few posts, made by some very good friends. You see 'beverley Regular' that is what the Folk scene gives.. friends and not just any friends, friends for life all these friends ask for is respect. So I suggest you learn that lesson or has been said stay away and go and play with yourself


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 07:04 AM

Oh dear, oh dear .............. can someone please pick up the rattle, the dummy and the soft toys and put them back in the pram.


Again apologies to everyone else and the moderators, I know I shouldn't react to such infantile provocation.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,LK867
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 07:04 AM

I last attended it in 2004. Ian Rankin and Jackie Leven were fantastic.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 11:00 AM

We shall be at Hodgsons Saturday Lunch

Joe & Mo.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 02:10 PM

Joe

Are you still around on Sunday?

I am working in Leeds on Saturday, so won't get across to Beverley until Sunday.

I'm aiming to be in Hodgson's at 1pm Sunday and it would be good to see yourself and Mo.

Roger


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Carol
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 05:15 AM

On my way soon


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 08:11 PM

No Roger we are just doing Saturday as we can't find anywere to stay in Beverly.

Joe N


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 21 Jun 14 - 07:41 AM

Like Jo and Mo I can't find accomodation so I won't be appearing at Hodgsons tonight. Sorry i know this will dissapoint everyone except Beverley Regular who is probably whooping for joy. Will be there tomorrow at around noon to do the Sunday session at the Sun with the other Fat Bloke


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Kampervan
Date: 21 Jun 14 - 01:11 PM

Wot..No tent????


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Beverley regular
Date: 21 Jun 14 - 02:18 PM

Au contrair mr.phat..really sorry you cant grace the fringe with your undoubted skills.
It is a real pity some of your "friends for life" cant have found a corner for you in their abodes.
Dont you just yearn for the days when "real friends" would form an orderly queue to help you out with a bed or bit of floorspace....and show you the respect you have earnt over the years....maybe me just been a bit cynical?


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Carol
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 01:40 PM

Back home now - met up with some 'old friends' that I don't see very often these days. Noticed that Premier Inns are advertised as opening up a hotel in Flemingate. Enjoyed all the sessions especially the one on Saturday evening when we had to move upstairs - great for the smokers who had a balcony all to themselves!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 23 Jun 14 - 06:43 AM

Got over for Sunday where me and the other Fat Drunk had an enjoyable afternoon session in the Sun Inn nice to see and hear genuine FRIENDS. By the way Beverley Regular we think we have outed you and know who you are. Perhaps Whitby will confirm it !!!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: OlgaJ
Date: 23 Jun 14 - 07:38 AM

Until this year we (Alterego) have camped elsewhere at Beverley and only supported, and thoroughly enjoyed, the Fringe, as we thought Festival prices and camping were a bit on the high side. Steve was invited to play Moonbeams stage this year so we camped at the main festival and couldn't get to the Fringe as we had a prior booking on Saturday (two hour drive each way). We had considered volunteering to do something fringe-wise in future, but reading through the above didn't realise there was so much back-stabbing going on. We've got a lot of friends in Beverley and through the festival and wouldn't like to think we might get slated on mudcat for doing something voluntarily. Everyone complains that there isn't any new blood coming in to 'Folk' and comments like some of the above are not going to encourage it. Most of the sessions we have run at festivals and elsewhere have been well received and if managed properly the 'book- reading amateurs' - your words not mine - get the same chance as everyone else but not necessarily one after the other. As for paid artists doing the odd song at sessions it is to be encouraged as it lifts the standard a bit, so long as they take their turn like everyone else. The only embarrassment comes when a headlining guest appears at a session and we don't recognise them:)


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 23 Jun 14 - 08:49 AM

OlgaJ please don't be put off by comments on Mudcat. The session in the Sun yesterday hosted by McFat and Whispering Chris was a great mixture of styles, tunes, songs, tradional, contemporary. It ran smoothly, everyone was encouraged to take part and I think I can safely say everyone had a great time.

PS Jim, we played the CD on the way home, well impressed, especially by Beaches of Saint Valerie. Vocals and piano just great.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: OlgaJ
Date: 23 Jun 14 - 09:42 AM

Glad it all went well. We missed the Sun sessions as that is where we usually ended up, or we adjourned to the Oddfellows for a smaller gathering. Certainly when we talked to Derek yesterday he said the Fringe sessions on Saturday were as good as ever, and the showcase went down well. We actually enjoy mixed pub sessions that are open to all, though the Sun can get very noisy especially on Saturday nights. Fully appreciate they can be difficult to manage. We ran a five hour mixed session on Saturday night at Bamfest a couple of weeks ago. Some of the musicians and singers stayed the distance but most left when the boxing came on the big screen TV with the sound off, the landlord was very accommodating and didn't ask us to stop for the match. Those of us left ended up entertaining a wedding reception that had emptied into the pub for about an hour and a half. Main thing is we would do it all again!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 23 Jun 14 - 12:35 PM

As planned, I arrived at the racecourse at around 1100hrs on Sunday and spent a couple of hours there in the folk festival village, browsing stalls and spending a bit of money. After eating lunch in the village, I then went to Hodgson's for Derek's session.

It was a bit quiet in that session, but there was some good playing going on. At the end of that it was down to the Sun and the fat guys' singaround. This was pretty steady away with a decent crowd of singers and players. Spent more time catching up with old friends than singing but I did do a bit.

It was good to see old friends such as Derek, Les, Maggie, Alan, Di etc, but I did miss seeing even older friends such as John Y, John N, Mick McGarry, Tom Hall, Roy wild etc. - maybe they were there on Saturday and I missed them.

I got the overall impression that things were pretty quiet both at the racecourse and in the pubs, but I can only speak as I found it on Sunday.

R


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: selby
Date: 23 Jun 14 - 02:45 PM

Was at the village Sat and thought that it lacked Buzz I feel it is not helped by a badly positioned beer tent,it stops anything taking off.Also felt that Beverley town had lost the feeling of a festival did not go near the sing arounds as too far out from the festival site.feels like if you go to festival that's what you do if you go to sing arounds you don't stay on campsite as they dont appear to be part of the same festival.Beverley festival always had something for everyone seems to have lost that bit
Keith


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: r.padgett
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 01:46 PM

Looking from the outside it is now "bums on seats" syndrome a captive audience paying to see booked guests

I think the fun has gone out of a lot of festivals and big business has taken over

The old times have gone largely but kept alive by the faithful who cater for the home made music element

Room for all really and the fringe in my view does not detract from the main festival, just different audience who make their own choices to spend their money and where they spend it

Ray


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Joe G
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 02:51 PM

I am appalled by the vitriol poured out by BR who appears to have a personal axe to grind. As Ray says there is room for everyone. Live and let sing!


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Big bird
Date: 24 Jun 14 - 04:48 PM

Sorry we couldn't be there Jim, and Les and Maggie and everyone else. It's the only festival dad and I do, and we've always been made welcome despite only ever seeing you all at Beverly festival (we don't get out much!) Sessions are hard to run but appreciated so much, they've always been the best bit for me, but that's just my taste. The idiot pouring poison seems to get a kick out of insulting people and really needs to get a life - it's not big and it's not clever.

I hope that Kampervan and I will get to see you all next year. Thanks again for everyone's hard work in making the fringe so enjoyable.

Vicky (aka Big Bird) x


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,Sidewinder.
Date: 01 Jul 14 - 07:24 AM

I went, I saw, Sank a few beers and thoroughly enjoyed myself.

Regards.

Sidewinder.


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,el ted
Date: 13 Jul 14 - 06:00 PM

Jeebus H Christ! If you manage to read half of the above thread, you no longer need to wonder why normal humans have left mudcat for good! Ta ta. you sad old ....


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Subject: RE: The Beverley folk festival FRINGE
From: GUEST,magicpete
Date: 10 Aug 14 - 12:05 PM

Hi
Anyone know how I can get in touch with Andy Gillespie?

Thanks


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