Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafemuddy

Post to this Thread - Sort Descending - Printer Friendly - Home


Tech: DVD zone conversion?

Gurney 17 Jun 14 - 12:02 AM
Gurney 17 Jun 14 - 12:23 AM
Nigel Parsons 17 Jun 14 - 04:29 AM
GUEST,Geoff the Duck 17 Jun 14 - 04:30 AM
Gurney 17 Jun 14 - 06:48 AM
GUEST,Jon 17 Jun 14 - 07:08 AM
Ross Campbell 17 Jun 14 - 07:08 AM
Acme 17 Jun 14 - 10:34 AM
Q (Frank Staplin) 17 Jun 14 - 02:09 PM
Gurney 18 Jun 14 - 12:59 AM
Acme 18 Jun 14 - 01:16 AM
Big Al Whittle 18 Jun 14 - 05:11 AM
Jim Carroll 18 Jun 14 - 06:17 AM
Gurney 20 Jun 14 - 05:44 PM
Acme 20 Jun 14 - 06:07 PM
Gurney 20 Jun 14 - 09:21 PM
GUEST 25 Jun 14 - 09:41 PM
Gurney 26 Jun 14 - 05:40 PM
Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:





Subject: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Gurney
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 12:02 AM

Hi. Does anyone know if there is a freeware zone converter for DVDs?
I have a friend who has inherited DVDs that don't play here in NZ, which requires zone 4 on his machine, and don't even play on my multi-zone DVD player. They are zone 2. They DO play on a computer, which makes me wonder if conversion to a fresh DVD disk is possible.
Thanks.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Gurney
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 12:23 AM

And, what the devil IS a zone anyway, and why are the different? There are several video converters on freeware sites, but the bumf doesn't mention 'zones.'


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 04:29 AM

Gurney:
"Zones" are the publisher's way of milking the release for as much money as they can.
Just as a film may be released to cinemas in different countries at different times, and then released for TV use at different times. The timing of the release of DVDs is dealt with in the same way.
By coding them for different Zones it prevents a US DVD (Usually released first) being bought for use in UK by someone who wants to see it before the general release date.
Zones also help the distributors restrict access where the copyright status of the material may be different in different countries.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: GUEST,Geoff the Duck
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 04:30 AM

I suspect that the Zone is included as part of the encryption which prevents you copying commercial copyright films.
The Zones were invented so that people outside the USA couldn't buy new cheap DVD versions of films and watch them in the UK prior to the European release, usually months later, and sold at a vastly inflated price compared to the US release.
Either that, or invented by DVD player manufacturers so they could sell the UK more expensive players.
USA and Canada is Zone 1.
Europe zone 2.
What Wikipedia says.

I don't know if things have changed, but computer DVD drives used to be set to play a specific Region of DVD. This could be changed to allow a different coding, but you were only allowed to alter the Zone about three or four times before it locked on your final choice. After that point it would no longer decode the other zone discs.
Quack!
GtD.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Gurney
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 06:48 AM

Thanks, Nigel and Geoff. Wiki says that it is possible to unlock the zone by making a copy, as I thought might be possible. All I have to do is understand the instruction, which with my Cro-Magnon brain may be a struggle.....


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 07:08 AM

I find alternativeto quite useful when looking for software (not that I need much - my Linux distribution covers me for most things).

Here's a start


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 07:08 AM

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/dvd-unlock explains all (mostly as described above). Also links to http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks for lists of DVD players and corresponding unlocking codes.

Not sure if computer DVD drives can be unlocked in the same way - you would have to identify the make and model of the drive, which could vary widely even for the same brand and model of computer. This info is findable on my Mac, not sure if it's accessible on PCs. Also the stand-alone hack works via the remote-control, not sure how you would get that code to a computer drive.

Ross


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 10:34 AM

Copy it with DVDShrink and save it as zone free if your computer will work with the original zone. DVDFAB costs money but works very well if you have to buy something, and it copies BluRay as well. Personal copies, of course!

These days you can buy an inexpensive zone free DVD player fairly easily. Just Google it.

SRS


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 02:09 PM

Echo SRS. Cheaper to buy a second "region-free" player.

On EBAY, region-free changers are as cheap as $25, but the Pioneer is about $50 and it is good quality.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Gurney
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 12:59 AM

The guy who I'm trying to help is something of a Luddite, ropeable because he can't get his cassette recorder repaired and consequently a technology-phobe, and 82 years old. And 3/4 blind. And a pal of 40 years standing.
These DVDs are, as I said, region 2, and they are the ones he remembers, of the old and original films. He wants THESE, not remakes!!! His emphasis, not mine.
I can't find any zone/region-free players here, just multi-region, and MY multi-region won't play them, although the computer will. There aren't enough DVDs to make it worth buying a new player, even if they were available. Imports from elsewhere are difficult, our supply is 240Volt.
There is promising-looking freeware available from Freesmith, which may be an Oz site. I'll investigate it tomorrow.

Oh, and new DVDs are anything up to $US20 here.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: DVD zone conversion?
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 01:16 AM

What you can do, if he has a BluRay player (you can use the BluRay to play standard DVDs and it will step them up to the full HD screen size) is to load the files from the DVDs onto a large capacity external drive (the big 500gb to 3tb ones) or even a large thumb or flash drive. Plug that into the back of the bluray and scroll the settings to play the contents of the external drive. I have a couple of films that I can play on the computer because they were converted from European zones, but I didn't have software to successfully burn disks that my DVD or BluRay player would accept. But they will play the files from the drive.

BluRay players start at about $50 now, I got one from Amazon recently for $79 that has software that will stream a lot of stuff (for me, I now can watch Amazon Prime through the player). BluRay want to be connected to the Internet, but you don't need to. With some disks the extra memory helps because sometimes the disk tells the player to download extras and that is why you should have at least a small thumb drive plugged into it. If you don't want to connect to the Internet, it isn't necessary, but the player can still play extra stuff plugged into the USB drive on the back.

SRS


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Tech: DVD zone conversion?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 05:11 AM

I haven't zone 4.

but I've got zone one dvds - bought in the first place by mistake. a friend of mine said it was it was easy and messed up my video -trying to change the zones.

what I do now is play the dvd on my laptop, and then connect the laptop with a cable to the telly. it seems to work fine. so now I buy zone I dvds quite happily. just got the de luxe version of Stephen Fry's Wilde with directors commentary.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Tech: DVD zone conversion?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 06:17 AM

I think NCH may do a free download - though some of their freebies are limited free trials.
Good luck
Jim Carroll


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Tech: DVD zone conversion?
From: Gurney
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 05:44 PM

A lack-of progress report.
I found a freeware DVD converter that is supposed to turn a DVD into files on the harddrive, excluding the region file. Which it seems to, about 40 of them, but then you have to burn them onto a DVD-R, and there's the problem. It freezes Nero when you try to burn. I searched (a bit) for a burner program that would work with it, but the writer of the converter program is offline and the burner programs that I found seem to concentrate on audio, even when they purport to be for video too, so I'm no further forred, as they say.
Ho Hum.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Tech: DVD zone conversion?
From: Acme
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 06:07 PM

You've converted them, now load them onto a large capacity external drive with a USB connection and plug it into the player or TV and view the movies that way.

SRS


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Tech: DVD zone conversion?
From: Gurney
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 09:21 PM

Sage, I'm doing this for the guy I wrote of on June 15 @12:59. He is NOT going to mess about with anything but DVDs or VHS tapes. I agree that 'I' could make them work well enough, -and I already have the HDrive- but he gets agitated when he has to learn something new. He can hardly work his DVD remote, due to his bad eyesight. Can't see the writing on the TV, you see.
Another solution that would work just for me is to put them on a thumb drive. I have a freeview decoder that allows me to to move things back and forth. But he hasn't, and can't, and won't!

Recently the TV authority did a revision of the stations which meant retuning the TVs, and some channels became different #s on the remote, and he hasn't quite caught up with that, another source for his irritation. A while ago we went to digital TV, another. "Why can't they leave things ALONE?"
I'm not even sure that he is comfortable with electricity! He switches EVERYTHING off at the wall.

Getting old isn't very much fun.
He's a pretty good performer though, still.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Tech: DVD zone conversion?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 09:41 PM

Check out AppGeeker, it would work for you.

http://www.appgeeker.com

I have ever used it to convert my DVDs, works well.

- Josh


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Tech: DVD zone conversion?
From: Gurney
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 05:40 PM

Thank you, Josh. I have emailed them, asking. Their main aim seems to be to convert DVDs for cellphones, but we'll see.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
  Share Thread:
More...

Reply to Thread
Subject:  Help
From:
Preview   Automatic Linebreaks   Make a link ("blue clicky")


Mudcat time: 23 June 3:56 PM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.