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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,TT Date: 03 Jul 14 - 08:09 AM Lizzie - "Yes, sex swap, or 'gender swap', choose whichever you prefer, as in being known by a different gender entirely, to the one they were previously known by, having surgery to either remove one set of sexual organs (some being born with both)" Not whichever I prefer, whichever trans* people prefer. And it's "gender reassignment". "(some being born with both)" You also appear to be confused about the difference between transgender and intersex. Do a little research! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: Richard Bridge Date: 03 Jul 14 - 08:23 AM Oh, Guest, no chance of her understanding that, she stared out of the window at school, to watch the squirrels. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish Date: 03 Jul 14 - 09:55 AM Well, I learned a lot more from watching the shadows forming from the sunshine and the leaves of the trees, Richard, than you did listening to your teacher, it seems. The 'squirrels' by the way, used to be on my lap each week day morning, on my way into work from Ruislip Manor, as I waited for the train into London. We'd share our early morning time together, they munching on the nuts I'd feed them each day....Do keep up.. Transgender, transexual, sex swap, sex reassignment, intersex, hermaphrodite, ALL are terms used 'out there' to describe whichever section of this you may choose to describe. Perhaps you'd like to start a new thread on language usage? Or, merely carry on carping...and talking of carping...there's this, but who knows if it's true or not..... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/intersex-fish-showing-up-in-pennsylvania-rivers/ Meanwhile, one of Rolf's neighbours and 'friends' (yeah, right, Missus) is busy talking to the Daily Mail about how let down she feels by him, what with him having the kindness to sing softly to her dying husband on her death bed, being there for her instantly... Good 'friend', huh? Nothing like a kindness being 'repaid', eh, Missus? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!!!! I'd not be surprised if he kills himself shortly, to be honest, possibly tonight, as it will be his last night of freedom...and who would blame him, because who would want to remain living in this vitriolic world of Pack Humans who believe WHATEVER they are told by the newspapers.... If he doesn't, I'm sure it won't be long before he dies in prison.... And I feel desperately sad about this, desperately sad, but heyho, at least all his 'victims' ????? will get to share out all his £millions and have a party, until one day, their guilty may get too much, just like the guilt of the father of Michael Jackson's 'victim' did...and they too may take their own lives.... If I could leave this country, I would. I think we've taken leave of our senses...and this morning they were pushing for ALL children to be believed on sex abuse, at all times... Watch this space, folks..... Of course, no-one EVER mentions that maybe we need to get back to CARING for our children in the first place, loving them, having time to BE with them, not being made to work 24/7 whilst other folks raise them, abuse them, fuck up their minds, etc. whilst the children grow deeply resentful of their parents not being there for them, making up stories about their parents abusing them, phoning Childline, etc..etc...Even Esther Rantzen has spoken of her concerns of starting up Childline now, after she'd been filming some children, can't recall where now, and had been advised against taking photos of them, in case she could be 'accused' of something at a later date...... Totally fecking fucked up....... I need tea!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish Date: 03 Jul 14 - 09:57 AM ...on HIS deathbed, that should read...Darn this 'no edit' thing on Mudcat... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST Date: 03 Jul 14 - 10:37 AM Good to know that Operation Yewtree is being/has been run by Fine, Upstanding, Outstanding Officers/Former Officers, who think going on Big Brother (don't even get me STARTED on THAT load of bullshit) is a worthy thing to do! Well, he looks A Former Officer Of Integrity, for sure.... Former Operation Yewtree Officer enters 'Big Brother' house It's me, ain't it? Im too old for this world.... You see, I come from a time before fecking Big Brother and all this Porn Stuff, and now, here is one of the former Yewtree Officers appearing on this fecking load of porno/dumbed down bullshit!!!! WHAT has happened to us, as a Species? Answers, PLEASE, on a postcard to: IREALLYDoNOTunderstandAfeckingThingAnyLonger c/o WFTisGoingOn Cottage Fecked-Up-On-Sea Yewtree Britain |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,TT Date: 03 Jul 14 - 10:41 AM "Transgender, transexual, sex swap, sex reassignment, intersex, hermaphrodite, ALL are terms used 'out there' to describe whichever section of this you may choose to describe." You really do hate trans* people, don't you. Is that why you chose to accuse 'Alison' Pink of lying? "And now, we have the Newest of The New Headlines, of how two EVIL PAEDOPHILES (yes, Savile and Rolf) were both at Broadmoor!! Shock! Horror! FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK#!!!$%$^&*!!!!!!!### Right, ROLF was there at THE SUMMER FETE, signing autographs, whilst sitting down at a desk, in the sunshine. HOWEVER, a lady called Alison Pink, who was formerly a Mister, has now said she, when she was a he, saw Savile and Rolf watching the female patients at Broadmooor undressing later that day... Just one thing you might like to know about Miss Pink, she is a former INMATE of Broadmoor, the highest category psychiatric hospital in the country, lest we forget, which houses Ian Brady and Peter Sutcliffe, amongst other Friendly Folks You'd Not Ask Round To Meet Yer Granny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Colin Cackhead Date: 03 Jul 14 - 10:56 AM I've had to skim read to catch up, as this thread's now getting a bit too chaotic and difficult to follow.. So, sorry if I've not quite understood ... but are some folk now saying Rolf Harris is a cross dresser who talks to squirrels ?.. dresses as a squirrel ?.. fiddles with young squirrels in dresses ...??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,TT Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:00 AM No, Lizzie is saying he never touched any squirrel, cross-dressed or otherwise, on the basis that she's read about it in the media so she knows the truth and the jury (who merely sat in court and listened to the evidence) are wrong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Colin Cackhead Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:12 AM oh, right, I think I get the gist of it..... I supposes it would be too self indulgent and far from the point if I were to delve deep into my own personal history and experience and share this for public scrutiny; I've a scar on my finger where a squirrel bit me, but oddly enough I've never been bitten by a man in a frock ??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,TT Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:22 AM The squirrel was obviously innocent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:28 AM Exclusive - Man in frock bites underage squirrel !!! Rolf Harris denies all involement. Loyal supporter demonstrate outsides Court "Rolf is innocent" she cries "He never laid a finger on any small rodents unless begged to heal them by their worried owners - that's the kind of pure spirit Rolf is" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:28 AM "but oddly enough I've never been bitten by a man in a frock ???" Ha! You've never lived!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:39 AM >>"You really do hate trans* people, don't you. Is that why you chose to accuse 'Alison' Pink of lying?"<<< WHAT??????????????? !!!!!!!! How fecking DARE you say such a thing... FYI, I spent two years of my life writing to someone who was a transvestite, which can be checked with other folks on Mudcat who know about that...so why don't you put that up your arse and do whatever you so choose with it... And write to April Ashley, you'll find her on FB, as I wrote to her a while back now, about a year back, to thank her for writing her book, the one I read when I was 14, for opening my eyes to the pain many folks endure to finally become who they were always meant to be. Alison Pink, well, Broadmoor is one of the top psychiatric hospitals in the country, with some very mentally unstable patients, as in, VERY unstable indeed. May I politely suggest you look some of them up...and anyone who chose to believe, outright, the kind of claims being made by this person without first looking into those claims deeply, would be behaving somewhat oddly, don't you think? You do NOT get sent to Broadmoor for not paying for your Tea & Biccies, you know. NO paper should have published the hearsay of this person, nor of anyone else, whomsoever they might be, without having EVIDENCE that they are telling the truth, or a reliable, truthful witness.... Peter Sutcliffe, Ian Brady...etc... You can read about more of them right here: Broadmoor Gives Up It's Secrets ALL claims of sexual abuse should be looked into seriously, but NONE should EVER be taken at face value, without further investigation, particularly if you are dealing with those from the kind of high risk hospital Broadmoor is. To do otherwise, would be extremely foolish |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,TT Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:46 AM "I spent two years of my life writing to someone who was a transvestite" What's that got to do with Stephen George, who is transgendered not transvestite. "And write to April Ashley," Did she write back? I believe someone has already taken issue with you over your belief that people who have mental health issues are incapable of telling truth. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:49 AM No, no. The squirrel was wearing the frock. It started life as a female, but became a transgender. As a male squirrel it wore a frock because it was actually a transvestite. It bit several underage men (keep up!) but was arrested and found guilty by a jury who had absolutely no right to do so. How can you all be so THICK? I will be writing to complain to the Daily Mail, the BBC and the Queen. I will also be ringing up the Mirror and swearing profusely on Radio 4. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST Date: 03 Jul 14 - 11:57 AM on the basis that she's read about it in the media so she knows the truth As posted before her original post is a close match to a report on the BBC news website. Not quite as bad as relying on, say, the Daily Wail but those on-line articles don't have room for detail. I would rather see a full court report. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST Date: 03 Jul 14 - 12:01 PM Lizzie didn't *knowingly* spend 2 years writing to someone who was a transvestite. She spent 2 years in an internet "relationship" with someone who called himself Sam and claimed multiple personalities on Mudcat and presumably in other places. I believe she left her husband for him, without ever actually meeting him, as he was a fantasist who was allegedly coming to England to live happily ever after with her. But he never turned up. Between him and that Rolph bloke I'm not sure Lizzie has always showed herself to be the best judge of character. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: Musket Date: 03 Jul 14 - 12:01 PM Broadmoor isn't a high risk hospital. For what it is worth, Broadmoor, Rampton and Ashworth serving England, and Carstairs serving Scotland and Northern Ireland cater for the acute end of forensic psychiatric care. Many patients are referred via the judiciary and a huge number have personality disorder. That said, some have organic mental health issues and a curative care plan may appropriate, so for Lizzie Cornish to dismiss testimony purely on the basis of once being a patient there is grossly irresponsible. The risks are to the patients or public should they abscond. There is no inherent risk in the hospitals. Details of patients remain confidential as per records governance legislation, in particularly The Health and Social Care Act 2008 (regulated activities) regulations 2010. I used to inspect one of the above and was involved at one time in commissioning forensic care. I find her choice of words disgraceful. You do not get "sent" there. You may be referred, but your admittance is on clinical need, and not all are accepted. Any more bullshit or can this thread either discuss a convicted criminal called Rolf Harris or quietly slip down the page? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 03 Jul 14 - 12:22 PM It will be interesting to discover the sentence given tomorrow. I had a look on a website on legal matters, and it's quite a difficult case to deal with. The maximum custodial sentences vary, and one would take into account his age and 'good character' since the times of the offences. I suppose it would also be considered whether to make the sentences concurrent or consecutive. The feeling was that they would be concurrent. The general consensus was about 4-5 years. Less than 4 yrs and one used to serve a minimum of half. More, and it was two-thirds. But this may have changed nowadays. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 03 Jul 14 - 12:55 PM No, I didn't leave my husband for anyone. I left for my own reasons...which have been profoundly shown to have been the *right* reasons too. I still care for his 99 year old mother though. There was no other person involved at all. Again, sorry to burst your bubble. Interesting, Eliza? Would you like some knitting needles so you can busy yourself as they drop the blade? I'm wondering if he'll kill himself this evening. Why would he not? He lives in a beautiful home by The River Thames, has been there for decades. Tomorrow, he faces years in a prison cell. Today, so they say, he's been tying up his business affairs, so they're assuming...as 'people in black suits' have been visiting, whom they believe to be accountants. I hate what this country has become...and soon, it will be even worse... I'd not want to live anymore, were I Rolf. I couldn't bear to live in a country filled with so many vile people who have turned into a lynch mob because they've been told to by people who just want to make money out of his story.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST Date: 03 Jul 14 - 01:03 PM "I still care for his 99 year old mother though." you get a lot of mileage out of that one, don't you? Did you ever buy her bath handles and get your son to install them, or is the poor dear still struggling to wash herself because you would rather scream at social services? No one else involved? Really? I remember being pretty embarrassed for your husband at the time. If any woman had ever humiliated me in public over some internet infatuation the way you did him, I would have behaved with a lot less dignity than he did. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST Date: 03 Jul 14 - 01:26 PM From Musket: "Broadmoor isn't a high risk hospital...." >>>>>..."Broadmoor Hospital is a specialist service that provides assessment, treatment and care in conditions of high security for men from London and the south of England. It's one of three high-security psychiatric hospitals in England, and is internationally recognised, both for work with patients and for our extensive research activities. We treat people with mental illness and personality disorders who represent a high degree of risk to themselves or to others...."<<< Broadmoor Hospital Site... HIGH SECURITY HOSPITAL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 03 Jul 14 - 01:27 PM Sooo ... 2 years writing to a sqirrel ... in a frock ... No! ... Must have got that wrong ... somewhere ...??? Probably should go back and wade through acres of verbiage ... but can't be arsed! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 03 Jul 14 - 01:38 PM No, you have no idea what was going on in my marriage at that time..and I most certainly did NOT end my marriage because of anyone else. Sorry to burst your bubble. No, Shimmy, the squirrels weren't wearing dresses, just smiles. But hey, if you folks want to poke fun at transvestites, go ahead, as I'm sure the 'guest' whose been on my back trying to make out I had a real problem with them, won't say a thing. No doubt they were merely hoping I'd mention my connection with someone who was, whilst they actually have no idea WHO it was, by the way, as only 2 people on Mudcat know. But you can put down whatever you want. I wonder if Mudcat is higher security than Broadmoor? If not, it should be with some of the folks in this thread... Oh and I needed to correct something, when I said I was 'wondering' if Rolf might kill himself tonight, earlier, I meant to put 'worrying', but again, no edit button.... I'll leave you all now to have a guessing game at how many years he'll get, whether you think it's too long/short a sentence and all the torture you could apply to him whilst he's in there.... Seems The Spanish Inquisition is alive and well in here....and no-one suspects that...except me, of course.... Have a lovely evening...and try not to worry about Rolf Harris too much whilst you get your rolls ready for tomorrow's hanging..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 03 Jul 14 - 01:45 PM I realise I'm rather ancient, but isn't it strange how some posters on here seem to be about 10 years old? I've taught that age-group, and when they get het up they speak exactly like some of the less mature people on this thread. A sort of "Mler! So there! Go and eat worms!" kind of style. Fascinating. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,TT Date: 03 Jul 14 - 01:46 PM "as I'm sure the 'guest' whose been on my back trying to make out I had a real problem with them, won't say a thing". Sorry to disappoint you. Every time you open your mouth you condemn yourself. If you really knew anything about transgender you would have realised from the terms I use that I do know what I'm talking about. As for "No doubt they were merely hoping I'd mention my connection with someone who was," if you mean by this that I was hoping you would out someone - no. Outing someone is a major no-no, which you ought to know, since you are so knowledgeable about trans* issues. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: Jeri Date: 03 Jul 14 - 02:06 PM You ever notice how some people get involved in a thread, and they become what the thread's all about? Let's turn a Mudcat thread into one individual's personal Facebook thread... Eliza, I like you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: Greg F. Date: 03 Jul 14 - 02:07 PM I'd not want to live anymore, were I Rolf Thank God you're not. Plus I don't think Rolf gives a fart in a high wind what you think[sic] or want or bloviate about - even on your Holy FarceBook (click, click). You think a great deal to much of yourself, Liz. Sorry, but the sun DOESN'T shine out of your arse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST Date: 03 Jul 14 - 02:35 PM I confess - it wasn't Rolf - I did it. Guilty |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: GUEST,Musket Date: 03 Jul 14 - 03:16 PM Interesting how a guest said what I said but said it to contradict me. Broadmoor is not a high risk hospital. Some of the patients could be a risk to themselves or others if they were left in the community on their own. Thick as pigshit. Regarding the convicted criminal Harris, he will be sentenced tomorrow just like any other criminal. Not sure why Lizzie Cornish is making such a song and dance about it. Lots of criminals go to prison each week. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: selby Date: 03 Jul 14 - 03:30 PM | | | | | | =========== | | | | | | =========== | | | | | | =========== | | | | | | Can you see what it is yet? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Rolf Harris Found Guilty of 12 Offences From: Greg F. Date: 03 Jul 14 - 05:30 PM Not sure why Lizzie Cornish is making such a song and dance about it Does Liz need a reason to bloviate? |
