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Mrrzy 08 Oct 14 - 11:26 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Oct 14 - 11:26 AM

And unless you stay careful after getting out of the room - you can get infected taking off your quarantine outfit and then wiping sweat out of your face, without it having gone airborne, the virus that is, not your face. Or your quarantine suit.

And great, she got tylenol when she tried to tell them she had Ebola. Sounds like Texas.

But let's not insult each other, OK? Even if one of us says something dumb, let's not call then a fucking idiot, but argue with their premise? Can we do that in this thread, at least? Thank you in advance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 08 Oct 14 - 10:39 AM

Sorry, I'll try that again:

Nurse reported symptoms three times


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 08 Oct 14 - 10:33 AM

They simply don't know how she got infected. Like the situation in Dallas, it's the response that is the greatest worry:

[url=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/08/spanish-ebola-nurse-symptoms-quarantine]Nurse reported symptoms three times[/url]


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Oct 14 - 10:08 AM

I see you've quite gone over to the hysterics!

As at this point, it has not jumped the air gap, but that does not mean to say it cannot, will not, or is not doing so now.

Nor does it mean that it can, will, or is doing so right now.

The Spanish nurse affirms she took every precaution against the known normal pathology. As she was infected none the less, then the pathology has changed,

Right, she "afffirms". Uh hunh. Or she screwed up & the pathology hasn't changed.

Good thing we're neither pigs or non-human primates, innit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 08 Oct 14 - 09:03 AM

It is NOT fact it cannot be spread by aerosol: it mutates, and its brethren can (Reston Virus, which may be on the loose in Virginia: it's got very low pathogenicity in humans and may even be the basis for an innoculation). Experimental research HAS shown airborn transmission from pigs to and between primates can happen, see below. As at this point, it has not jumped the air gap, but that does not mean to say it cannot, will not, or is not doing so now.

The Spanish nurse affirms she took every precaution against the known normal pathology. As she was infected none the less, then the pathology has changed, and the pressure is on to discover why. In the mean time, those involved must be ultra cautious: there is, for example, an obvious discrepancy between the air control in the Royal Free setup and the "let's swan around in the open" in Madrid. Watching them, they only double-glove, for example, which is one layer too few: one for the patient, one for the environment, and one for you.

See:
Johnson E, Jaax N, White J, Jahrling P (Aug 1995). "Lethal experimental infections of rhesus monkeys by aerosolized Ebola virus". International journal of experimental pathology 76 (4): 227–236. ISSN 0959-9673. PMC 1997182. PMID 7547435.
Weingartl HM, Embury-Hyatt C, Nfon C, Leung A, Smith G, Kobinger G (2012). "Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates". Sci Rep 2: 811. doi:10.1038/srep00811. PMC 3498927. PMID 23155478.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 11:03 PM

It is not airborne except for the body fluid that is flung int the air and lands right in your eyes and mouth. A sneeze can in this rare scenario can be equated with vomiting in your eyes.

Is that airborne?
NO not in the the way flu can be airborne and even survive dry for some time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 11:00 PM

cnn is running this on line only


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 10:16 PM

Now, now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 06:26 PM

with something so deadly i think it is insane to say it can't be spread through air

No, Mary its fucking FACT that it isn't spread atmospherically. Get a fucking grip, will ya?

We don't need any more bullshit on this issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 05:56 PM

And since the virus incubates, screening without quarantining the healthy is useless, so screening is useless.

I've been saying all along, quarantine quarantine quarantine.

Apparently the nurse in Madrid *did* use all precautions and caught it anyway. That is very unusual.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 04:48 PM

with something so deadly i think it is insane to say it can't be spread through air or whatever...stuff on air anyway gets onto surfaces...take serious extreme precautions if you want to control it. if you don't care, if you would rather philosophize than act, then ok.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 04:14 PM

<>The very bad no good dangerous conspiracy theory from FOX is that we have run out of Ebola vaccine and blaming Obama.

What the fuck? Even for Faux News, that's preposterous bullshit. But at least 25% of the U.S. populace - who believe the horseshit Fox/Murdoch put out- is going to accept.

Oh, ye nation of morons.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 10:59 AM

Yes, I also read about Marburg in Uganda. And apparently the Ebola in Nigeria, which stayed contained, was not the same Ebola as is breaking out in Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia.

Anybody heard a great report on NPR about what the Firestone rubber plantation in Liberia did about the epidemic when it started up in their compound?

Some EXCELLENT epidemiology was done there. Blicky.

As an aside, if the quacks are bloody, don't touch them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 09:39 AM

Marburg is closely related to Ebola.
4 hospitalised, 28 possible secondaries under observation, first couple came up clear, for the moment. They'll only really know in three weeks.
The good news for her is that she was exposed 25 Sep, left 26 Sep, reported symptoms 28 Sep, still with us 12 days later so possibly responding, secondaries should know either way in 12 more days. We can therefore add rumour control to the charges, the rest of the world had the right to know. They can trace her family circle, but what about the rest.
The failure seems to be in disrobing, the hospital staff are riled to the max because they've had no specific training, the bloody quacks seem to think it's like anything else.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 09:26 AM

The two suspect patients reported on npr turned out negative.

The cases in Spain regarding a nurse and partner are now reported in the media. My apologies for reporting it 5 days prior to confirmation.


The very bad no good dangerous conspiracy theory from FOX is that we have run out of Ebola vaccine and blaming Obama.

There still is not a vaccine and never has been folks.

A vaccine may be ready next year. Anti virals and anti replicating drugs for viri are being tried.

Now that Saudi Arabia has its hands on Ebola is not a comforting thought.


There is an obscure report that a Ugandan .radiographer (X-Ray technician) in Uganda died Sept 28th 2014 from the Marburg virus which is a hemorrhagic fever.At this time it is only possible that this is true. If so, it is a totally different difficulty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 05:30 AM

Yes, an Ebola infected goign on holiday is a worry but possibly more worrying is the fact the infection happened in the first place when you consider the precautions it jumped:

Health authorities on Monday said that health professionals treating Ebola patients in Spain always followed protocols outlined by the World Health Organisation. The nurse would have entered García Viejo's room just twice, said Alemany, and would have been wearing protective equipment on both occasions. "We don't know yet what failed," said Alemany. "We're investigating the mechanism of infection."


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 06 Oct 14 - 09:31 PM

8 weeks, great, does the wife of the texas case know that or the people monitering her?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 06 Oct 14 - 06:22 PM

One of my flags just got tripped (and I used to be a manager in the European crisis management centre): the Spanish nurse who picked it up from the Priest brought back from Liberia nursed him, cleaned up the room after he died, AND THEN WENT ON HOLIDAY. They don't know for sure that it isn't communcating by air, its incubation period can be between 2 and 21 days, and it was only when she became symptomatic - ie transmissible - that she sought help. How long was she contageous before that: and among holidaymakers. Yet the Spanish Minister of Health continues to be proud of her Sector's professionalism. That kind of pride, continuing in the face of the evidence that they cocked up in the most dangerous way possible, is a recipe for disaster: should they even have repatriated the priest in the first place, even? That's wisdom after the event, but now the risk is they've let it out of a medical environment and into holidaymakers. Next stop Rochdale or Eltham?
Now we must pray for the next three weeks. Oh, and in passing, a male who recovers still has infectious semen for up to eight weeks...


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 06 Oct 14 - 03:45 PM

Emphasising again the risk to medical staff caring for Ebola patients, the first known infection outside Africa: a nurse who was looking after a repatriated missionary in a Madrid hospital.

Nurse in Spain tests positive for Ebola


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 Oct 14 - 01:53 PM

The "Spanish Flu" was an H1N1 avian virus, according to current research. The severity is suspected to be the result of cytokine storms affecting the immune system.
See Medscape.com article on Influenza Transmission, from American Journal of Epidemiology.
Person-to-person transmission seems to be low compared to seasonal influenza transmission.

As noted in previous posts, it is spread by contact with bodily fluids rather than through the air like Spanish Flu.
However, aid workers need masks and protective clothing, because patients coughs spread fluids to those in contact.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Oct 14 - 10:21 AM

On the other hand, the question then might arise about the scale of the epidemic overwhelming the medical resource.

Not likely, since the Flu was airborne transmission & the Plague either airborne(pneumonic) or transmitted by flea bites. Ebola requires direct contact with bodily fluids.


what would happen, say, if the whole of Silicon Valley died?

The world would be considerably better off overall and I wouldn't have to constantly deal with oblivious idiots barking into their cell phones & texting in their vehicles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Oct 14 - 04:58 PM

They found the homeless guy in Dallas.

One guy who got all better is now back in hospital, but they say it's a diffeent flu so far, although I bet having just gotten over Ebola isn't very good for your upper respiratory system.

If he changed planes in Brussels he probably didn't go through Customs, plus, he didn't have it yet so they'd be fine even if he had sweated, profusely, on them. You aren't contagious till symptoms and he didn't show symptoms till he'd been Stateside for days.

Only another couple of weeks till we know if it spread anywhere.

The only people likely are the EMTs and the immediate family, who may have gotten into bed with him while he was sick. I wouldn't even worry about the guy who cleaned up the barf, or the fact that the barf was simply hosed off into the neighborhood street.

But what really frosted my buns this morning was the headline on the Sunday Washington Post first page - how "they" "failed" to stop the epidemic, now that there is ONE case in the US suddenly it is not contained? SOMETIMES I (delete a lot of stuff) mean really! The they in question being the international health people, btw.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 05 Oct 14 - 03:39 PM

Just so as we don't get complacent here in the UK, the victim changed flights in Brussels. That put him one contact and one Eurostar journey from London.
The simple reality is that this will get out sooner or later, either by stupidity or malevolence. It has already escaped from its first locus into the rest of West Africa, and this Texan incident was just a taster of what happens when, sooner or later, someone knows better. The UK is very much in common with the rest of Europe, although our longer-term provision is better, in that if you even think you have a problem, you see the quack for nowt.
On the other hand, the question then might arise about the scale of the epidemic overwhelming the medical resource. That may lead to neighbourhood quarantine: we nearly had to go there in the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918, indeed within a quarter of a mile of where I write this in London is an entire housing estate which has only just been returned to private use by the NHS, inside the last 10 years, which was built for these victims. It still has just two entrances, supermarket and medical centre. One wonders if it is still on the books as a reserve...at least the local kids would be happy, as the troops enforcing the enclave would have to be based in the school opposite.
1918 was bad, coming on the heels of the death toll of WWI. But it was not as bad as the death toll of the cumulative waves of plague in the 50 years which followed on the Black Death of 1347-9, which caused complete economic collapse in some parts of Europe, and therefore came within a hair's breadth of doing so across the entire continent. Between 50 and 75% of the population died, more slowly, and the way found out of the economic collapse was specialisation, a policy which we have continued since. However, we have taken it far further: what would happen, say, if the whole of Silicon Valley died?
Or the people who keep a continual process plant running smoothly?
It may be we have futures as acoustic performers after all...


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Oct 14 - 02:37 PM

And now there is a homeless man who rode in the ambulance with the first US Ebola case - and he is missing. Not a good scenario.

Well, Ebbie, the BIG difference with the UK is that we have a National Health Service (until the fucking conservatives finish selling it off) so people are not afraid to go to hospital in case they get bankrupted. Bear in mind that the general assumption is that people who are asymptomatic are not infectious, so if people go straight to a doctor or hospital (and do not lie, for fear of cost, that they have not been exposed) when symptoms show, the prospects for containment are better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Oct 14 - 01:58 PM

Your turn's coming, RB. Let's see how well you handle it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Oct 14 - 12:44 PM

Up to 100 contacts of the first US case, now, and he is critical. So much for the US's ability to treat Ebola. Or to contain it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Oct 14 - 06:26 PM

Ugh. yeah, I know. But ugh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Oct 14 - 03:07 PM

The idea that now that there is a case in the US we should care more, or that diseases that kill more Americans are more important, sickens me

Me too - but it is what it is.

Dead wogs don't signify.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Oct 14 - 02:44 PM

Just because something else is worse doesn't mean something isn't bad.

The flu has vaccines. THe flu has treatments that work. Ebola has neither.

Besides, *this* *isn't* *about* *Americans* *it* *is* *about* Guineans, Liberians, Sierra Leonians, and so Ivorians, Malians, Nigerans (not Nigerians), Senegalese, and Guinea-Bassauans first and foremost. The West African nations in or bordering the current outbreak/epidemic.

The idea that now that there is a case in the US we should care more, or that diseases that kill more Americans are more important, sickens me,


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Oct 14 - 10:12 AM

Get a grip.

"More than 226,000 Americans are hospitalized with flu and approximately 36,000 die from flu-related complications every year, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Oct 14 - 01:51 AM

More than a hundred a day just in Sierra Leone
BBC.
A leading charity has warned that a rate of five new Ebola cases an hour in Sierra Leone means healthcare demands are far outstripping supply.

Save the Children said there were 765 new cases of Ebola reported in the West African state last week, while there are only 327 beds in the country.

Experts and politicians are set to meet in London to debate a global response to the crisis.

It is the world's worst outbreak of the virus, killing 3,338 people so far.

There have been 7,178 confirmed cases, with Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea suffering the most.

Save the Children says Ebola is spreading across Sierra Leone at a "terrifying rate", with the number of new cases being recorded doubling every few weeks.

It said that even as health authorities got on top of the outbreak in one area, it spread to another.

The scale of the disease is also "massively unreported" according to the charity, because "untold numbers of children are dying anonymously at home or in the streets".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29453755


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Oct 14 - 01:11 AM

New numbers as of beginning of October:

Total Case Count: 7470 + 20 in Nigeria, 2 in Senagal and 1 in US=7493
Total Deaths: 3431 + 8 + 0 + 0 = 3439
Laboratory Confirmed Cases: 4087 + 19 + 2 + 1 = 4099

Reminder of end of September case count:
Total Case Count: 6263
Total Deaths: 2917
Laboratory Confirmed Cases: 3487

So we'vegone up in a couple of weeks by 1230 cases, roughly 100/day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 08:51 PM

White folks don't get plague, though, unless we have AIDS. So we're not afraid, not very afraid. Sigh.

And the handling by Dallas authorities is scarily bad. The nephew is who called the CDC to say My uncle has Ebola and the hospital just sent him home!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Elmore
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 08:37 PM

Thought it was kind and caring of Sarah Palin to extend condolences to the people of Ebola.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 05:27 PM

As long as everyone is getting hysterical over Ebola, remember that there are 7 or 8 cases of BUBONIC PLAGUE!!!!!!! in the U.S. every year & also one or two of pneumonic and/or septicemic.

BE AFRAID!!! BE VERY AFRAID!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 04:53 PM

BAD NEWS

npr just reported 2 men in the DC Metro area are now in hospitals after traveling from West Africa with Ebola symptoms

A Nigerian man is at Shady Grove Hospital and the other is at Howard University.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 12:58 PM

GOOD NEWS


Dr. Robert Garry of Tulane University has made a test for Ebola infection that works in as little as 10 minutes even on asymptomatic patients.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 12:12 PM

Kudos to the great posts by; mg, Richard Bridges, Mrrzy and Q.
These people I could understand. The silent ones baffle me.
Recent events have made my Ebola song in the thread 'Ebola songs' even creepier.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 11:58 AM

Supreme stupidity or as I call it human nature has always defeated some of our best intentions.

We* did not think through a proper procedure to quarantine or even who would ever clean up exposed linens and furniture. (* the corporate we or the wealthiest we)

As long as Isis seems to be a priority Ebola will not get the attention it deserves.

Beheadings be damned ! Saudi Arabia had several dozen of their own this year, Americans have seen plenty of beheadings. Ghostbuster 2 had 11 beheaded victims on pikes as they entered the subway river of slime. OK but real or not I don't think our leadership is focusing the public on the REAL threat.

The new American    $$$$ conspiracy anti Obama conspiracy theory   $$$$$    is that big pharma has plenty of vaccine and are in fact rife with cures but African markets can't afford the price drug companies want to get. Only after America gets truly desperate will drug companies sell the vaccines at huge profit to the government.
Again this conspiracy theory is whacko. What is true is that Drug companies run with a new drug after the Government has painstakingly developed it such as the new malarial cure. Drug companies do not spend $ on R&D today the way they once did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 10:12 AM

I heard the situation described on a radio interview yesterday. The four were coming and going and not always available for the twice-daily check on their temperatures. So now they're confined to one apartment where now they are sleeping on mattresses on the floor and I wonder if someone is delivering food and other requirements? This story is evolving. They're talking about this on the Diane Rehm show (NPR) right now.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 05:17 AM

Sorry, this was the article I was thinking of above.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 04:55 AM

Yes, communications breakdown within a complex team prevented the information that the patient had just returned from Liberia filtered through. An Ebola checklist was completed during the assessment.

I read this Reuters article yesterday. The way this case has been handled, you have a problem there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 03 Oct 14 - 12:07 AM

When public officials start telling us that they are in control of the situation, it it is time to worry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: olddude
Date: 02 Oct 14 - 10:22 PM

For sure that's insane..


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Oct 14 - 09:40 PM

Still, the hospital sending him home after he DID say he'd been in Liberia, I mean, really.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: olddude
Date: 02 Oct 14 - 08:32 PM

Suppose you are right. Go figure I hope they have it secured sounds like they do


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Oct 14 - 06:36 PM

Stupidity hasn't been criminalized, Dan, More's the pity.

We really do need a criminal stupidity statute on the books, especially in light of Rick Perry, Rand Paul, and a host of others.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: olddude
Date: 02 Oct 14 - 06:27 PM

He lied three times to the airport authorities and said he wasn't exposed. Today we find out he was caring for an ebola patient and living with him. should have terrorism charges against him I think


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 02 Oct 14 - 06:08 PM

I am dumbfounded that someone could go to an ER, say they have been to Liberia, and not be quarantined. Why should America tremble?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Oct 14 - 06:08 PM

Yup - now that U.S. white folks have been potentially exposed, they're startin' to pay attention.

God bless Amerika.

(PS: been paying attention to what passes for a "hospital" in Africa?)


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