BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 08:24 PM

Truly shocking: the fact that it's Malaysian Airlines again (after the disappearance of the other plane in March) has you wondering if it's sheer coincidence or some sort of conspiracy.
Having flown from Europe to various Asian destinations on a number of occasions it did cross my mind that you would almost inevitably cross one or other war zone at some point - Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and now Ukraine. I understand that airlines are already altering their flight paths to avoid that part of Ukraine.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: GUEST,Mrr at work
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 06:23 PM

Last time this happened it was the US who shot, and I had one of the most embarrassing finding-out-you-are-a-racist moments of my life because of it...

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 04:52 PM

The Russian Separatists have announced that they have the flight recorder (black box). We may never find out what it recorded.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 04:32 PM

I'm just waiting for Fox News to blame this on Obama's weakness. You know it's coming.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: bobad
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 04:12 PM

The mysterious leader of Ukrainian separatist rebels boasted of shooting down a Ukrainian military aircraft just before news broke that Malaysian Airlines MH17 crashed, according to reports.

An hour before news of the crash, Igor Strelkov reportedly wrote on Vkontakte, a popular Russian social media website, "In the district of Torez an An-26 was just shot down. It crashed somewhere near the Progress mine. We warned them not to fly in our skies."

The message was sent about 30 minutes after the plane is believed to have gone down. The post was later deleted and another post went up, blaming Ukrainian government forces for shooting down the passenger plane.

National Post

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 02:34 PM

A Ukrainian transport plane was shot down today by Separatists. The Ukrainian air forces can't operate in Russian Separatist-held areas.

Rebels in the Donetsk Peoples Republic denied any responsibility for the attack on the Malaysian aircraft.

23 Americans were aboard the downed Boeing 777 plane. British passports were found on some victims and there were at least four French nationals and a number of Dutch.

Reports from Reuters and Associated Press.


Increased sanctions against Russia are expected and have been threatened by Obama if Russia doesn't change course in Ukraine.
Hundreds of civilians have been killed.
(Reuters)

Without outside help, a large portion of eastern Ukraine may be lost; a region with much of Ukrainian industrial output.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 02:15 PM

The Washington Post pushed that out to my phone app this morning - deja vu for Malaysian Airlines - what a horrible year. And for the Russian's encroaching on Ukraine, this could be the mistake to push them back out again because they eyes of the world are all the more upon them.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 01:59 PM

On Wednesday, the Russian separatists shot down two Ukrainian Sukho1-25 fighter jets, one by Suk missile, the other by a portable air-missile device.
The Separatists have sophisticated equipment that has been supplied by Russia.

In an allied report, the Buk missile system is being supplied to Syria by a Russian supplier.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 01:56 PM

GRABOVO Ukraine (Reuters) - Dozens of bodies were scattered around the smouldering wreckage of a passenger jet that crashed in a field in eastern Ukraine on Thursday, a Reuters reporter said.

An emergency services rescue worker said at least 100 bodies had so far been found at the scene, near the village of Grabovo, and that debris from the wreckage was spread across an area up to about 15 km (nine miles) in diameter.

Broken pieces of the wings were marked with blue and red paint - the same colours as the emblem of the Malaysian airline which lost track of a Boeing 777 en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur that was carrying almost 300 people.

"I was working in the field on my tractor when I heard the sound of a plane and then a bang and shots. Then I saw the plane hit the ground and break in two. There was thick black smoke," said a witness, who gave his name only as Vladimir.

A separatist rebel from nearby Krasnyi Luch who gave his name only as Sergei said: "From my balcony I saw a plane begin to descend from a great height and then heard two explosions.

He denied the rebels had shot the plane down.

"This could happen only if it was a fighter jet or a surface-to-air missile (that shot it down)," he told Reuters, saying the rebels did not have weapons capable of shooting shoot down a plane at such a height.

All 295 people aboard the plane were killed, a Ukrainian interior ministry official said, blaming "terrorists" using a ground-to-air missile.

Ukraine's prime minister called the downing of the flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur a "catastrophe".

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 01:44 PM

Terror for terror's sake?! I hope the folks who did this are swiftly caught, tried,and punished by being put in a drone at 30000', and shot down so they can feel the horror they caused by they're cowardly action.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 01:37 PM

Associated Press journalists reported seeing Buk missile launchers near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhde. The system is effective to 25000 metres.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 01:09 PM

Another report- pictures of wreckage



A Malaysia Airlines passenger plane went down today after the airline said it had "lost contact" with one of its flight over Ukraine near the Russian border.

The Boeing 777 plane -- Flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lampur with 280 passengers and 15 crew members on board -- had its "last known position was over Ukraine airspace," the airline said.

The plane had left Amsterdam at 12:15 p.m. (local time) and was estimated to arrive in Kuala Lampur International Airport on Friday at 6:10 a.m. (local time), according to Malaysia Airlines.

Flight radar shows the plane was lost somewhere on the eastern border of Ukraine.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 01:06 PM

The flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur last reported from Ukraine.

A Russian GRU separatist leader named Strelkov reportedly admitted that he ordered the missile strike, thinking the plane was Ukrainian. Not verified at present.

Subject: RE: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 01:02 PM

I hope that the reports aren't true, but I suspect they are -- that the plane was shot down by a Bak missile.

Why in the name of God, Yahweh, and Allah would someone DO such a thing?

Subject: BS: Passenger jet shot down over Ukraine
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jul 14 - 12:57 PM

News services are reporting a Malaysian passenger jet with 298 people aboard was shot down neat Donetsk in the eastern Ukraine.
Parts of the plane were scattered over a 15 mile area.

A missile from pro-Russian fighters in the eastern Ukraine is blamed in some reports but nothing certain as yet.