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Outback Songs ??

GUEST,Claire M 31 Aug 14 - 03:16 PM
GUEST,Gerry 31 Aug 14 - 11:20 PM
Sandra in Sydney 01 Sep 14 - 01:48 AM
Sandra in Sydney 01 Sep 14 - 02:10 AM
GUEST,Gerry 01 Sep 14 - 03:33 AM
Sandra in Sydney 01 Sep 14 - 08:14 AM
stallion 02 Sep 14 - 06:46 AM
GUEST,Desi C 02 Sep 14 - 01:17 PM
Sandra in Sydney 03 Sep 14 - 05:59 AM
Jim Dixon 05 Oct 14 - 11:32 PM
GUEST,John from "Elsie`s Band" 06 Oct 14 - 11:00 AM
Mrrzy 07 Oct 14 - 10:52 AM
GUEST,sciencegeek 07 Oct 14 - 11:13 AM
JennieG 07 Oct 14 - 05:32 PM
GUEST,Mrr 07 Oct 14 - 05:51 PM
Shimbo Darktree 07 Oct 14 - 06:13 PM
Sandra in Sydney 07 Oct 14 - 06:30 PM
GUEST,Gerry 07 Oct 14 - 08:35 PM
GUEST 07 Oct 14 - 09:50 PM
GUEST,Mrr 08 Oct 14 - 05:51 PM
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Subject: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,Claire M
Date: 31 Aug 14 - 03:16 PM

Hiya! I had a support worker who lived in Australia for a while, who happens to be completely uninterested in music. She brought some books back that I treasure.

I've no idea how we've kept in touch for 20-odd yrs (she is now 82 y/o) cos we're both completely different. The flight would more than likely make me ill (no hoist, not allowed to be lifted) My Consort wants to go too but he has similar problems & there's no way said ex-support worker could look after 1 of us let alone both.

I'm dying to hear some Outback/Aboriginal songs, but it seems silly to ask her to teach me --- any of you know any ?? I LOVE this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp6JRadgrt4


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 31 Aug 14 - 11:20 PM

There have been several musical settings of the Barcroft Boake poem, Where The Dead Men Lie. This one's not my favorite, but it's the only video I found online:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y23WYqdBwz4


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Sep 14 - 01:48 AM

Song of the Artesian Water -

note to video - Mara!'s interpretation of the classic Australian AB Paterson poem set to Cathy O'Sullivan's haunting tune has been performed around the world.

I have Cathie's album but I can't find a recording of her doing it.

US Catter Dan Schatz recorded Artesian Water in 2006

sandra


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHERE THE DEAD MEN LIE (Barcroft Boake)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Sep 14 - 02:10 AM

Gerry's link
Where The Dead Men Lie

Sydney singer/songwriter Margaret Bradford sings it but her only recording of it is a long defunct LP. Gerry, did Margaret compose the tune & did she cut down the verses?

sandra


Where The Dead Men Lie - poem

WHERE THE DEAD MEN LIE by Barcroft Boake (1866 – 1892) published 1897.

Out on the wastes of the Never Never -
That's where the dead men lie!
There where the heat-waves dance forever -
That's where the dead men lie!
That's where the Earth's loved sons are keeping
Endless tryst: not the west wind sweeping
Feverish pinions can wake their sleeping -
Out where the dead men lie!

Where brown Summer and Death have mated -
That's where the dead men lie!
Loving with fiery lust unsated -
That's where the dead men lie!
Out where the grinning skulls bleach whitely
Under the saltbush sparkling brightly;
Out where the wild dogs chorus nightly -
That's where the dead men lie!

Deep in the yellow, flowing river -
That's where the dead men lie!
Under the banks where the shadows quiver -
That's where the dead men lie!
Where the platypus twists and doubles,
Leaving a train of tiny bubbles.
Rid at last of their earthly troubles -
That's where the dead men lie!

East and backward pale faces turning -
That's how the dead men lie!
Gaunt arms stretched with a voiceless yearning -
That's how the dead men lie!
Oft in the fragrant hush of nooning
Hearing again their mother's crooning,
Wrapt for aye in a dreamful swooning -
That's how the dead men lie!

Only the hand of Night can free them -
That's when the dead men fly!
Only the frightened cattle see them -
See the dead men go by!
Cloven hoofs beating out one measure,
Bidding the stockmen know no leisure -
That's when the dead men take their pleasure!
That's when the dead men fly!

Ask, too, the never-sleeping drover:
He sees the dead pass by;
Hearing them call to their friends - the plover,
Hearing the dead men cry;
Seeing their faces stealing, stealing,
Hearing their laughter, pealing, pealing,
Watching their grey forms wheeling, wheeling
Round where the cattle lie!

Strangled by thirst and fierce privation -
That's how the dead men die!
Out on Moneygrub's farthest station -
That's how the dead men die!
Hard-faced greybeards, youngsters callow;
Some mounds cared for, some left fallow;
Some deep down, yet others shallow.
Some having but the sky.

Moneygrub, as he sips his claret,
Looks with complacent eye
Down at his watch-chain, eighteen carat -
There, in his club, hard by:
Recks not that every link is stamped with
Names of the men whose limbs are cramped with
Too long lying in grave-mould, cramped with
Death where the dead men lie.


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 01 Sep 14 - 03:33 AM

Sandra, I think Margaret might well have composed the tune she uses, and I think you're right that she cut out some verses. I'll see whether I can find out more. There's a different musical setting on a Gerry Hallom CD I have.


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Sep 14 - 08:14 AM

thanks, Gerry


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: stallion
Date: 02 Sep 14 - 06:46 AM

GH is back writing and performing locally, his recent stuff is more reflective and really is top notch. I hope he records it and gets it out there.


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 02 Sep 14 - 01:17 PM

I'd reccomend Aussie Duo Chloe & Jason Roweth, they have a site which I can't remember, but you'll ind them on You Tube as well, they have a wealth of trad outback etc material


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 03 Sep 14 - 05:59 AM

Chloe & Jason's website

Jason's Youtube channel

I'm very fortunate to have them as friends. They are very talented & very generous with their time in their support of bush & traditional music. Jason was recently involved in a workshop,
Saplings teaching 6-16 year-olds bush music.

sandra

another site for traditional music
Rob Willis's Youtube site
Stories, yarns, music, dance and folklore from many years recording for The National Library of Australia's (NLA) Oral History and Folklore Collection.
These are short segments of longer videos that are mostly housed with the NLA and complement many of our audio recordings.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SONG OF THE ARTESIAN WATER (A.B. Paterson
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 05 Oct 14 - 11:32 PM

From Rio Grande's Last Race, and Other Verses by A. B. Paterson (Sydney: Angus and Robertson, 1902), page 69:


SONG OF THE ARTESIAN WATER
A. B. Paterson

Now the stock have started dying, for the Lord has sent a drought;
But we're sick of prayers and Providence—we're going to do without;
With the derricks up above us and the solid earth below,
We are waiting at the lever for the word to let her go.
    Sinking down, deeper down,
    Oh, we'll sink it deeper down:
As the drill is plugging downward at a thousand feet of level,
If the Lord won't send us water, oh, we'll get it from the devil;
    Yes, we'll get it from the devil deeper down.

Now, our engine's built in Glasgow by a very canny Scot,
And he marked it twenty horse-power, but he don't know what is what:
When Canadian Bill is firing with the sun-dried gidgee logs,
She can equal thirty horses and a score or so of dogs,
    Sinking down, deeper down,
    Oh, we're going deeper down:
If we fail to get the water then it's ruin to the squatter,
For the drought is on the station and the weather's growing hotter,
    But we're bound to get the water deeper down.

But the shaft has started caving and the sinking's very slow,
And the yellow rods are bending in the water down below,
And the tubes are always jamming and they can't be made to shift
Till we nearly burst the engine with a forty horsepower lift.
    Sinking down, deeper down,
    Oh, we're going deeper down
Though the shaft is always caving, and the tubes are always jamming,
Yet we'll fight our way to water while the stubborn drill is ramming—
    While the stubborn drill is ramming deeper down.

But there's no artesian water, though we've passed three thousand feet,
And the contract price is growing and the boss is nearly beat.
But it must be down beneath us, and it's down we've got to go,
Though she's bumping on the solid rock four thousand feet below.
    Sinking down, deeper down,
    Oh, we're going deeper down:
And it's time they heard us knocking on the roof of Satan's dwellin';
But we'll get artesian water if we cave the roof of hell in—
    Oh! well get artesian water deeper down.

But it's hark! the whistle's blowing with a wild, exultant blast,
And the boys are madly cheering, for they've struck the flow at last,
And it's rushing up the tubing from four thousand feet below
Till it spouts above the casing in a million-gallon flow.
    And it's down, deeper down
    Oh, it comes from deeper down;
It is flowing, ever flowing, in a free, unstinted measure
From the silent hidden places where the old earth hides her treasure—
    Where the old earth hides her treasure deeper down.

And it's clear away the timber, and it's let the water run:
How it glimmers in the shadow, how it flashes in the sun!
By the silent belts of timber, by the miles of blazing plain
It is bringing hope and comfort to the thirsty land again.
    Flowing down, further down;
    It is flowing further down
To the tortured thirsty cattle, bringing gladness in its going;
Through the droughty days of summer it is flowing, ever flowing—
    It is flowing, ever flowing, further down.


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,John from "Elsie`s Band"
Date: 06 Oct 14 - 11:00 AM

"RACES AT THE DEPOT"

By John Hills based on words by W.Miller

https://soundcloud.com/#john-hills/races-at-the-depot


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 10:52 AM

The songs I know about or in Australia are all white-folks songs, like The Wild Colonial Boy or that terribly sad song about Gallipoli. I guess they are all actually Irish, now that I think of it. But I have a Tasmanian brother-in-law I will ask...


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,sciencegeek
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 11:13 AM

broken down squatter like me...

there has been some fine poetry by Henry Lawson and Banjo patterson that has been set to music, as evidenced above.

the hubby has done some nice work with Glass on the Bar, Droving Days and the Cattle Dog's Death... and some fine day he'll get them online or something. 'til then they are just mp3s on the laptop. sigh


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: JennieG
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 05:32 PM

There is a difference between songs of the outback and bush written (even if not sung) by those who have lived and worked there, and songs by city dwellers who have a romanticised view of bush life.


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 05:51 PM

Answer from Taz was Modern Pop, or Classic? I asked for both...


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: Shimbo Darktree
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 06:13 PM

For Aboriginal songs, you could look up Archie Roach on Youtube - IMHO one of the best contemporary Aboriginal songwriters. For a real Outback feel, look up Yothu Yindi.

Shimbo


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 06:30 PM

Dougie Young's Victor Podham and his Rusty Hut

Dougie Young's They Say It's A Crime

Dougie Young - They Call It Cut A Rug

from Wikipedia
Dougie Young was a singer and songwriter from South West Queensland. Young had a white father and a Gurnu mother.[1]

Earlier in his life he worked as a stockman, during which he learnt the guitar and started writing songs. A riding accident later ended his working as a stockman. In 1963 or 64 Jeremy Beckett, an anthropologist made field recordings of Young, many of which were released in 1965 as an ep called Land Where the Crow Flies Backwards (Wattle). The title track has since been covered by Gary Shearston, Athol McCoy and Chad Morgan. He was recorded twice more, first in Walgett in 1969 and then in Sydney in 1979 (soon after a report of his death). Songs from these three recordings were released by AIATSIS in 1993 as The Songs of Dougie Young[1]

Young sang "Cut A Rug", a drinking song from his troubadour days in the Wilcannia in the 50s and 60s, in both the SBS documentary and accompanying cd, Buried Country: The Story of Aboriginal Country Music.

Young's song The Land Where the Crow Flies Backwards was added to the National Film and Sound Archive's Sounds of Australia registry in 2013


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 08:35 PM

The Banjo Paterson poem that Jim Dixon posted a few posts upthread was not a song, despite its title, but it has been set to music. Cathie O'Sullivan did a beautiful setting on her album, Artesian Waters. Penny Davies and Roger Ilott do this version at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq5xdAaUBVg --- the Mara! Band do it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIiVwOy8TEA --- also recorded by Gerry Hallom.


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Oct 14 - 09:50 PM

G'day GUEST Gerry,

All the Paterson poems now sung started out without tunes ... except the "Waltzing Matilda" ... that he sold off for peanuts because of embarrassment over the events regarding his fitting the words to the fragment of a 'brass band tune' strummed out on Christina McPherson's autoharp.

I certainly remember the Song of Artesian Water as a song for a few decades - certainly within the Bush Music Club.

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 08 Oct 14 - 05:51 PM

Kookuburra sits on the old gum tree?
Waltzing Matilda? (NOT and the band played Waltzing Matilda, which is the song about Gallipolli of which I couldn't recall the title earlier.)


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 08 Oct 14 - 05:51 PM

The Pub With No Beer?


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Subject: RE: Outback Songs ??
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Oct 14 - 11:09 PM

Tazzie says try here:

http://www.creativespirits.info/resources/music/#

Blicky


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