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Lip synching and Miming

PHJim 28 Sep 14 - 09:59 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 28 Sep 14 - 11:05 PM
PHJim 29 Sep 14 - 02:19 AM
Musket 29 Sep 14 - 02:33 AM
GUEST 29 Sep 14 - 03:31 AM
GUEST,Stim 29 Sep 14 - 10:32 AM
PHJim 29 Sep 14 - 05:25 PM
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Subject: Tech: Lip synching and Miming
From: PHJim
Date: 28 Sep 14 - 09:59 PM

I was reading another thread and noticed some folks using these terms interchangeably, while others seemed to treat them as two separate things. One person seemed to think that lip synching was a skill where miming was something to be looked down on.
I have never heard the term miming applied to anyone except the people who paint their faces white and act out different situations with no props or vocal sounds.

What is the difference between miming and lip synching? I have always thought of lip sychig as mouthing siently to a pre recorded vocal track. Is that right?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Lip synching and Miming
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 28 Sep 14 - 11:05 PM

Can you spell Photo Shop? Garage Band? Audacity?

Nothing is "real" even the "live" $ound- tracks of Dylan or Simon have been been edited for 40 years....and synced to the video.


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Subject: RE: Lip synching and Miming
From: PHJim
Date: 29 Sep 14 - 02:19 AM

Actually, I was thinking of concert performances rather than videos.


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Subject: RE: Lip synching and Miming
From: Musket
Date: 29 Sep 14 - 02:33 AM

Electric Light Orchestra once got bad press for using backing tracks live, back in the late '70s. It's the norm now for many large bands but newsworthy for letting the cat out of the bag at the time. Odd as they were all good musicians, many with a folk background coincidentally.

Miming was the BBC compromise on Top of the Pops after bands started refusing to use the BBC Orchestra and backing singers (Ladybirds.). When Fairport Convention played, Dave Mattacks got away with wearing a T shirt saying miming. Whereas Rod Stewart, on Maggie May went even further, inviting John Peel to pretend to be playing the mandolin, whilst Ron Wood didn't have strings on his guitar....

Lip synch nowadays related to getting the telly and surround sound to work together. Latency in recording studios is so low now that even many home recordings, you can add vocals after with no more skill than playing live.


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Subject: RE: Lip synching and Miming
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Sep 14 - 03:31 AM

Difference?

From my rather ancient viewpoint lip synching was the process of putting a voice onto film so that it looked as if the picture and sound had been recorded as a piece. Often necessary if there was extraneous noise when filming on location or in a musical number to permit cuts between different shots.

Miming is simply pretending to perform live as on ToTP. I remember seeing a band stop playing several seconds before the recording finished on one occasion.

Like many terms people are lazy and start to use them interchangably.


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Subject: RE: Lip synching and Miming
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 29 Sep 14 - 10:32 AM

Prerecording the musical soundtrack has been standard practice since very near the beginning of the sound era. Busby Berkeley apparently introduced the practice. In addition to the reasons mentioned above, it makes choreography and rehearsal much more manageable.

Even tho Zac Efron is a singer, he did not sing in the initial "High School Musical" film because the musical soundtrack was recorded before he'd even been cast in the part.

It become standard practice in television for performers to lipsynch because it saved producers setup and rehearsal time and it made it easy to time the segment.


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Subject: RE: Lip synching and Miming
From: PHJim
Date: 29 Sep 14 - 05:25 PM

Then this is miming and not lip synching? I had never heard the word miming before, but the term Lip-synching seems to describe this. He's also finger-synching as well. The guitar's not even plugged. He's got some great stage moves though.

Chuck Berry lip synching Sweet Little Sixteen


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