BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)

Subject: RE: BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 19 Dec 14 - 10:26 AM

Hi

I was born in Manchester and lived there until I was 10. Then lived in Sheffield for a few years until joining RAF whe I was stationed in Inverness for nearly 4 years.

I then lived in Spain for several years, though I still own a villa there.

I returned home just in time to experience Rangers fans in Manchester. Nice !!!

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Dec 14 - 12:02 PM

Fancy naming a football team after Helen Mirren. i suppose they must be fans....

Subject: RE: BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Dec 14 - 04:55 AM

Football?
22 people punting a pig's bladder about and 22 million referees.

& I ain't one of them.

Football has to police itself or take the brickbats.

Large crowds are dangerous and what goes on on the pitch doesn't stay on the pitch. That's my pitch.

How long before another Ibrox Park, Bradford, Heisel, or Hillsborough? Yes there is a comparison. Large crowds.

Subject: RE: BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)
From: GUEST,Some bloke in Scotland
Date: 20 Dec 14 - 06:00 AM

Why do people with no interest in a subject post to tell us so?

This is a thread about football Mr Red. I have been to matches all my life till moving up here, and still get down south for important matches. Large crowds are not dangerous. Incompetent crowd management is. Your odd comment about what goes on on the pitch? How the fuck do you know?

I have often complained direct to Chief Constables over attitudes of police at matches and train stations. Mainly because I was house officer at Northern General Hospital on a particular Saturday in Sheffield.

Linking violence to Hillsborough is about as low as you can get. Shame on you.

Possibly reading a Daily Mail from 1975, when football was used as an opportunity for hooligans. By the '80s it was rock concerts etc etc.

Subject: RE: BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 20 Dec 14 - 08:29 AM

not on to criticise football fans in this way unless you go to games and know something about what goes on there. at the smaller games disruption isn't an issue and at the larger games is much better than it was . i have been going with my kids to football for 25 years -celtic, city, west ham, bradford, carlisle and partick thistle and never had to worry about trouble of any sort. unfortunately there remain a few aggressive types who like to attach themselves to some clubs and cause bother - but they tend not to involve outsiders these days. there was a problem with racism but that has almost disappeared -probably as those types prefer getting into politics these days. avoid the prawn sandwich types and the big club glory hunters and fotball fans are a funny, welcoming and endearingly old-fashioned bunch of self-deprecating dreamers.

Subject: RE: BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Dec 14 - 06:13 AM

hmmmmmm......not sure that's realistic. man in Scotland.

if you're a man in England. football is inflicted on you in school. its there on the telly every night. its a pervasive thing. if you go shopping on a Saturday - you come across this waste of public money - policemen escorting away fans across town, and being vile to our policemen.

nearly every pub has a massive plasma screen with the stupid bastards prancing round silently in the fore ground. one open mic i go has this elephant in the room waving its trunk at you. football in England is like a flasher on the tube, sticking its ugly dick out at you at every verse ending. only this week i saw the entire Bristol Rovers/Gateshead match, whilst some folksingers were trying to perform.

everyone deserves the right to have a bitch about it. its like muzak - its there for all of us, all the time - whether we want it or not.

Subject: RE: BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)
From: GUEST,Some bloke in Scotland
Date: 21 Dec 14 - 08:41 AM

err I think Al, you will find my vitriol was about the remark linking violence with Hillsborough.

I wrote eighteen referrals to coroner (death certificates with open ends) on that day, the rest by colleagues, both at the hospital,and the sports hall temporary mortuary. As a house officer, my training included having certified a number of deaths within a one year period. I hit over half my quota in an hour, and all young men and boys. Comments linking Hillborough or Ibrox (tubular stand barriers) to violence are what criminal elements within the police initially tried. Never thought I'd read it on Mudcat. After all, you don't tend to read it in The Sun these days either...

Anyway, football isn't a way of life. It's far more important than that. (Bill Shankley.)

Subject: RE: BS: The reason I stopped watching football (UK)
From: Musket
Date: 21 Dec 14 - 10:38 AM

Must admit, I had rather hoped McMusket hadn't seen Mr Red's unfortunate comments.

Bad enough form him seeing homophobia not being adequately moderated, but to then see something about Hillsborough. Ok, nobody knows who was involved one way or another who comes on Mudcat, but that is why responsible comment regimes have to go beyond just insulting others by name.

I would say that in a certain city, Mr Red's comments give sharp perspective to those who say nobody should be anonymous on Mudcat. I know I wouldn't want to stand on top of The Liver Building with a megaphone and say the irresponsible words he did...

Football? One or two blasphemous comments on this thread. May you burn for eternity in the Northern premier and be drawn way to Sheffield Utd in the cup.