Lyngham and Pentonville

Subject: Lyngham and Pentonville
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 17 Dec 14 - 08:33 AM

There appear to be 2 Pentonville tunes. This one
http://www.hymnary.org/tune/pentonville_linley
and this one

http://www.omniglot.com/songs/bcc/shepherdswatched.php


However... the second tune is called Lyngham in the Hymnary and agrees with what I had heard in the past. So when did the name Pentonville become attached to Lyngham? Is this misidentification by folkie researchers or is it the name given by the carollers?

Subject: RE: Lyngham and Pentonville
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 17 Dec 14 - 09:50 AM

There are two different tunes called Pentonville.

Pentonville by Francis Linley is a hymn tune used for the hymn Like Sheep We Went Astray. It is in the Hymnary.

Pentonville by William Marsh of Canterbury is one of the popular settings of While Shepherds Watched. It doesn't seem to be in the Hymnary.

Lyngham by Thomas Jarman of Clipston is another popular setting of While Shepherds Watched. It is in the Hymnary.

Cranbrook by Thomas Clark of Canterbury is a further setting of While Shepherds Watched. Thomas Clark was a friend of William Marsh, and his tune is better known as On Ilkla Moor Baht 'At.