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Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin

Les in Chorlton 16 Mar 15 - 07:50 AM
GUEST,Dave the Gnome 16 Mar 15 - 08:49 AM
GUEST,Dave the Gnome 16 Mar 15 - 08:53 AM
GUEST,gillymor 16 Mar 15 - 09:55 AM
Les in Chorlton 17 Mar 15 - 04:23 AM
Leadfingers 17 Mar 15 - 04:32 AM
breezy 17 Mar 15 - 05:06 AM
breezy 17 Mar 15 - 05:29 AM
Steve Shaw 17 Mar 15 - 07:06 AM
GUEST,gillymor 17 Mar 15 - 08:23 AM
Steve Shaw 17 Mar 15 - 08:41 AM
PHJim 18 Mar 15 - 01:25 AM
Steve Shaw 18 Mar 15 - 07:37 AM
clueless don 18 Mar 15 - 08:30 AM
PHJim 18 Mar 15 - 09:01 PM
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Subject: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 16 Mar 15 - 07:50 AM

Which other Carolan tunes are often played with Planxty Fanny Power and Planxty Irwin?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: GUEST,Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Mar 15 - 08:49 AM

Shebeg Shemor(sp?) I believe.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: GUEST,Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Mar 15 - 08:53 AM

... And Steve Shaw does a concerto which I think is O'Carolan.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 16 Mar 15 - 09:55 AM

Fanny Power actually goes into Planxty Irwin quite nicely, both in G.
FP into Give Me Your Hand ( not O'Carolan but sometimes attributed to him) also works.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 04:23 AM

Thanks folks, we play Fanny Power actually into Planxty Irwin - just looking for a third. Will try Si Bheag, Si Mohor, I find Give me your Hand a bit tricky - but a brilliant tune - will also check out Carolan's Concerto


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: Leadfingers
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 04:32 AM

Maidenhead 'Waltz' set is 'Emma' (in Em) into F P in G - I have heard Emma called The Swedish Waltz and The Russian Waltz (in D m) but is in fact Finnish .


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: breezy
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 05:06 AM

South Wind ? is that a tune name ?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: breezy
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 05:29 AM

yep

so that four

PI
FP
SS
SW


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 07:06 AM

Morgan Magan is a beautiful, lively Carolan tune which would go nicely after something a bit reflective. Lord Inchiquin is also very nice. To be honest, we don't usually put Carolan tunes together in sets but there are no rules! If you go to www.harmonica.co.uk and hit Music Downloads, then scroll down to Feb-March 2014, you can hear two pissed blokes playing Morgan Magan totally off the cuff in a noisy pub. One of those blokes was me!

Planxty Irwin is a good tune to play around with, a bit of arranging, harmonising and embellishing sort of thing, and Turlough would be proud of you.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 08:23 AM

FP- PI- to a spritely rendition of Planxty George Brabazon 2 seems to work really well. All in G.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Mar 15 - 08:41 AM

The South Wind is a lovely tune but it needs great advocacy to avoid sounding a bit turgid. For my taste, it's a bit too similar in feel to Planxty Irwin to be a good companion for it. Only an opinion!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: PHJim
Date: 18 Mar 15 - 01:25 AM

We have always done Fanny Power in G, then gone into D for Irwin. It's a smooth transition, but it makes a clear distinction between the songs.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Mar 15 - 07:37 AM

If you play Planxty Irwin in D there are notes below the low D that some instruments can't get. It's more "natural" as a G tune, if you take my meaning.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: clueless don
Date: 18 Mar 15 - 08:30 AM

Another 3/4 tune that is usually attributed to O'Carolan is Hewlett, aka Planxty Hewlett.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: PHJim
Date: 18 Mar 15 - 09:01 PM

thesession.org has versions of Planxty Irwin in both G and D (and, for some reason, C). I believe I learned it from O'Neil's, where it's in D (I think. My copy of O'Neil's is buried somewhere and we're painting the two front rooms and everything's piled in a heap.)
One of the contributers said they play it in G if whistle players show up, but would rather play in D when there are fiddle and mandolin players.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Planxty Fanny Power and Irwin
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 18 Mar 15 - 09:29 PM

Would tend to play Si Beag Si Mor a bit slower than the Planxties ( Planxtys?), so if you're going to make it part of a set, suggest you do it first as it's easier to go up a notch speedwise on changing tunes than going down one! On the other hand, if you do it twice through with repeats of A and B tunes, it's probably long enough as a stand-alone tune. (We have a lovely 3- part arrangement which I hope Turlough would also like! )

Agree that Southwind would be a good one to add to the other 2. (It also incidentally makes a good parting song as in Ewan McVicar's "All the Tunes in the World").

Prefer PI in D ( there's just a couple of C#s below D whistle range): it gets awfully shrill in the B part if you play it in G IMHO!


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