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Marina Russell of Upwey-New information

GUEST,Nick Dow 28 Apr 15 - 09:45 AM
GUEST,Derek Schofield 28 Apr 15 - 11:20 AM
GUEST,Nick Dow 28 Apr 15 - 11:32 AM
michaelr 28 Apr 15 - 06:42 PM
Vic Smith 29 Apr 15 - 12:44 PM
Steve Gardham 29 Apr 15 - 03:50 PM
GUEST,Nick Dow 29 Apr 15 - 05:47 PM
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Subject: Marina Russell of Upwey-New information
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 28 Apr 15 - 09:45 AM

I was 29 years old when Martin Carthy encouraged me to do some research into the life of Marina Russell I am 63 this year and finally completed the story and solved the mystery of her final resting place.
I've traced Marina alive and well living in Bincombe in 1911 There is no doubt it's her. There is a burial in Bincombe church of an 83 year old Mrs. Russell but her name has been put down as Marion and that was in 1915. There are no Marions any where in the area before this one entry. It's an obvious mistake and it's got to be Marina. No wonder we couldn't find her. She was christened Mary Anne Sartin, and if her children told the Doctor who wrote out the death cert. 'She was known as Marina but her real name was Mary Anne' it is not beyond the bounds of credibility that he heard it as Marion. She had moved to 241 Ridgeway so that explains her dissappearance from the Upwey cencus. She went back to Bincombe where she was happy with her husband and raised some of her children. It's so obvious now! It never occured to me that she might have moved from Upwey after the Hammond Brothers visited her. Their description of her led me to believe that she was frail and would not last long. In fact she was good for another 7 or 8 years, God bless her.
I finally stand a chance of standing in front of Marina's grave after several decades of wondering where she is resting, and just saying thank you for the songs, and the wonderful reward I received from my years in Dorset, dedicated to her memory. I am contacting the Russell family descendants to tell them the news today.


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Subject: RE: Marina Russell of Upwey-New information
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 28 Apr 15 - 11:20 AM

Paul Sartin will be interested in this ...
Derek


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Subject: RE: Marina Russell of Upwey-New information
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 28 Apr 15 - 11:32 AM

On the list.


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Subject: RE: Marina Russell of Upwey-New information
From: michaelr
Date: 28 Apr 15 - 06:42 PM

So what did she do in her lifetime?


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Subject: RE: Marina Russell of Upwey-New information
From: Vic Smith
Date: 29 Apr 15 - 12:44 PM

So what did she do in her lifetime?
A synopsis of the show about her life reads:-
Following in the footsteps of the great song collector, Cecil Sharp, in 1905 the HAMMOND BROTHERS, Henry & Robert, set off on their bikes to scour Dorset for songs. In three months they recorded 193 songs and discovered a wealth of excellent singers with amazing repertoires. Henry wrote the music while Robert noted the words.
During their travels they came upon Mrs Marina Russell of Upwey. Despite the fact she was well into her 70's by 1905, she sung them 84 songs at their first visit and another 18 in 1907. There were love songs, songs of mystery and magic, see songs, parting songs and many more. They were songs she had learnt throughout her life. And what a life!
She was born in Corscombe in 1833, daughter of stone mason, James Sartin. In her teens she was employed in the glove making trade until her marriage to Charles Russell. This was the time of the great agricultural depression, just after the Swing Riots and the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Certainly not the best time to be married to a farm labourer: But this she was. Having married Charles, under a background of extreme poverty, she struggled to bring up 11 children. She lived in Upwey between 1871 until 1908 and during this time suffered the loss of her husband and two children. Alone, tolerating great toil and hardship, she not only brought up her remaining children but also the illegitimate child of her daughter. Despite this great feat of endurance she continued to sing, and it was this passion that finally ensured her place in the annals of musical history and gave her the recognition she deserved.

Songs that have become standards in folk clubs from her singing include -
Ye Mariners All
The Bedmaking
Catch-Me-If-You-Can
The Crafty Maid's Policy

Farewell Dearest Nancy
John White
Madam, Madam I'm Come A-Courting
The Man Of Dover
Molly And William


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Subject: RE: Marina Russell of Upwey-New information
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 29 Apr 15 - 03:50 PM

Nick,
The new edition of 'Wanton Seed' is due out next month. If the powers that be decree, we will start work ASAP on the 3rd volume 'The Constant Lovers'. When we started the new editions it was the intention to concentrate on the lives of the singers in this volume so I'll probably be getting back to you if this comes to pass. Well done!


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Subject: RE: Marina Russell of Upwey-New information
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 29 Apr 15 - 05:47 PM

Thanks Steve. I'll see you in Sheffield next month I hope.


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