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BS: Dog Oil any comments?

olddude 08 Jun 15 - 10:46 PM
Paul Reade 08 Jun 15 - 08:30 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 07 Jun 15 - 11:01 PM
JennieG 07 Jun 15 - 08:52 PM
GUEST,The oldest banjo player in Franklin County ( 07 Jun 15 - 05:34 PM
Mr Red 07 Jun 15 - 07:23 AM
frogprince 06 Jun 15 - 09:50 AM
Mr Red 06 Jun 15 - 05:14 AM
Acorn4 06 Jun 15 - 04:33 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 06 Jun 15 - 04:13 AM
GUEST, topsie 06 Jun 15 - 03:29 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 05 Jun 15 - 07:39 PM
Jack Campin 05 Jun 15 - 06:05 PM
Rapparee 05 Jun 15 - 04:18 PM
GUEST,# 05 Jun 15 - 03:40 PM
Mr Red 05 Jun 15 - 03:14 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: olddude
Date: 08 Jun 15 - 10:46 PM

I only oil my dog if he gets rusty tail or paws :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: Paul Reade
Date: 08 Jun 15 - 08:30 AM

Re. Dog Fat song (from "Raggytash" above).

The song was written by Jack Lee from Rochdale who ran a number of clubs there for many years, and was still running one when he died earlier this year - see http://www.folkimages.com/hobo/menu.html

Dog Fat                               by Jack Lee (originally – see below)

1 One day a knock came on the door and when I answered it
An old man he were standing there, he were having a coughing fit
I asked him what's he selling and he quickly doffed his hat
He coughed and sneezed and cleared his throat and then he said "Dog fat".

Chorus:

Come and get your dog fat, dog fat oh he cried
That's the only ointment that can penetrate your hide
Rub it smartly on your chest or rub it on your back
If you've got a pain you'll ne'er complain if you rub it with dog fat.
Dum a diddley di do, dum a diddley day.

2 Dog fat is fair for falling hair, it cures the griping pain
If you use it neat it's good for your feet, makes cripples walk again
It'll surely take spots off your face and burst boils on your back
It'll cure with ease rheumatic knees, oh rub 'em with dog fat.

3 My dad has always wanted curly hair on his bald head
But medical science can't do a thing, that's what the doctor said
But yesterday he rubbed a lump of dog fat in the strands
When he got up this morning he'd got hair all over his hands.

4 There used to be a girl who thought her figure was not complete
Oh yes, she had a pretty face, and her legs were rather neat
But her chest was flat, so she used dog fat as bust developing cream
But she found another little bust had grown in between.

5 Constipation were troubling Ada Plum, it drove her in a tiz
She'd heave and strain and squeeze her head, but still she couldn't biz
Then she took a dog fat suppository and quickly lost her frown
She had to get off toilet twice to stamp the bugger down.

6 Well it's good for your lungs and it's champion for your heart
And it cleans out your stomach, every last little part
And if you want a contraceptive girls, dog fat's the thing for you
Just stick a lump between your knees, it sticks like bloody glue.

Dog Fat - The Guilty Men

Verses 1,2, chorus       Jack Lee

Verses 3,4                Slightly adapted by Paul Reade (couldn't remember Jack's original verses which are):-

3 My dad has always wanted curly hair on his bald head
But medical science can't do a thing, that's what the doctor said
But yesterday he rubbed a lump of dog fat in the roots
When he got up this morning he'd got hair down to his boots.

4 There used to be a girl who thought her figure was not complete
Oh yes, she had a pretty face, and her legs were rather neat
But her bust was small, and though she tried all the ointments from the quack
Now her bust is forty-four, with rubbing 'em with dog fat.

Verses 5,6                Tony Downes, who I seem to remember sang with Martin Lynott (ex-Beggarmen) at one time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 07 Jun 15 - 11:01 PM

I assume it is much like rendering hog-fat.

I will go scouring the area after dark.

Which do you suggest:
Chow
Pekenes
Lab
British Bull
Terrier?

The list....could be endless.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

What about a blend... chihuahua with great Dane.....like a "Mung Jar" would feeding the meat from the rendered fat produce


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: JennieG
Date: 07 Jun 15 - 08:52 PM

Indeed, Tom......and how oil does one dog yield? Obviously a chihuahua would yield less than - say - a bull mastiff or Newfoundland.

Also, doe the quality of the oil vary between breeds?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: GUEST,The oldest banjo player in Franklin County (
Date: 07 Jun 15 - 05:34 PM

Yeah, one very important (IMVSBRO) question. How is dog oil acquired? Does one squeeze a dog until oil flows. Is it like fracking? I am a friend to all dogs and must object mightily should a dog suffer harm in the process!

Tom


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Jun 15 - 07:23 AM

frogprince - check out the BBC iPlayer and look for the Horizon programme on Placebo - it will open your eyes. Specifically on knowing it is a placebo.

If you think about it there are words in the English language to point to the very real phenomenon. viz placebo, hyperchondria, psychosomosis, mind over matter, visualisation, hypnosis, meditation, and something that has been known since doctors were invented "Doctors bedside manner". And more contentiously IMNSHO I include homeopathy.

And the programme clearly shows research that the physician's approach as a big part of the success of any medical consultation. But the brain scans were quite revealing - there is a real physiological effect going on there.

I can't mend a broken bone, but it may reduce the pain you percieve.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: frogprince
Date: 06 Jun 15 - 09:50 AM

Mr. Red's post takes me back to my experience with night time leg cramps. I had been having frequent painful bouts, and I heard about putting a bar of soap under the sheets. We had some little motel bars around, so I tried it. At least 80% effective. I then raised the question in a previous thread as to whether a placebo could be effective even if you have no faith in it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Jun 15 - 05:14 AM

LOL

I will continue with Pure Neatsfoot Oil (NOT the "Compound") - it is cheap and a mighty fine placebo. Though I have heard from an old Black Country Chemist, when I originally bought it for my Bodhran, and since from "Steven Fry, On QI, Who cannot tell a Lie ! " that it was used to hasten the mending of broken bones and arthritic joints. Oslers, apparently, suffered less from arthritis than their contemporaries. You can get the "Compound" from equestrian shops but the "pure" variety has only been seen on the internet.

Last Sidmouth I was determined to avoid an ache on the sole of my foot that Ibuprofen only partially solved (cream & pills) in 2013 (3 dances per day, 2 on tarmac).
Well, let us just say Neatsfoot is a mighty fine placebo. And just to put it in context, there was a BBC Horizon programme on placebos (may still be on iPlayer), and it was confirmed there by Havard Medical School that even knowing the treatment is a placebo does not diminish too much of the efficacy of Placebo. Brain scans showed the endorphins were almost as prevalent as with conventional pain killers.

It gets weirder.

Sugar pill anyone?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: Acorn4
Date: 06 Jun 15 - 04:33 AM

I don't know if it's still the case but one of the sponsors of Ingleton Folk Festival used to be a manufacturer of dog oil.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Jun 15 - 04:13 AM

Come and get your dog fat
dog fat oh he cried
that's the only ointment that will penetrate your hind
rub is smartly on your chest an' rub it on your back
if you've got a pain you'll ne'er complain
if you rub it with dog fat

Courtesy of the "Beggarmen" circa 1970's


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 06 Jun 15 - 03:29 AM

A small point on pronunciation - St John's wort rhymes with dirt and hurt and Bert.

I don't know if there are any records of Saint John having warts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 05 Jun 15 - 07:39 PM

Go COLLECTING......

We are approaching the height of blossom for "St. John Wort."

It should be wild throughout the western hemisphere.

There are perhaps, a dozen ways to use this elixer.


Sincerely,<
Gargoyle It is mild....it may take weeks, but the red cap within the yellow cup ... yields results seldom met by modern pharmy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 05 Jun 15 - 06:05 PM

Given what happened to Bierce, maybe it's not just the ailment it makes disappear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jun 15 - 04:18 PM

You can probably find another way to stop your dog from squeaking than oiling it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: GUEST,#
Date: 05 Jun 15 - 03:40 PM

"What does this parish think?"

The massage will help with the arthritis. Use olive oil. It'll work just as well.

Father Bubba


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Subject: BS: Dog Oil any comments?
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Jun 15 - 03:14 PM

Because it was mentioned to me for a cure for arthritis I was mildly interested. I may get that ailment one day.

So I went looking. Mason's Dog Oil seems to be recommending itself for a range of ailments. And it refers to Ambrose Bierce as if his name would add credence. I am a huge fan of the Devils Dictionary and his treatise on Oil of Dog confirms the reference to rather put Dog Oil in the category of Fuitloopery (As New Scientist likes to put it) aka Snake Oil.

What does this parish think?


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