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Seafaring Quakers

Mrrzy 19 Jun 15 - 01:25 PM
Stevebury 19 Jun 15 - 05:31 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 19 Jun 15 - 07:17 PM
GUEST,Grishka 20 Jun 15 - 10:38 AM
Marc Bernier 21 Jun 15 - 07:46 AM
Joe Offer 21 Jun 15 - 12:06 PM
Mrrzy 21 Jun 15 - 05:53 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 22 Jun 15 - 05:24 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 22 Jun 15 - 05:31 AM
Mrrzy 22 Jun 15 - 09:36 AM
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Subject: Seafaring Quakers
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Jun 15 - 01:25 PM

While researching the song Cheerly Men for another thread, I kept coming across Quakers being mentioned in sea chanteys. Then I googled the phrase "seafaring quakers" and a buncha stuff came up (Moby Dick?) - so my question to the forum is, where there really a lot of Quakers at sea, or is Quaker just a good word to use in a sea chantey? Rhymes with take her, make her, baker shaker and who knows what all else? Her referring to the ship half the time of course...


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: Stevebury
Date: 19 Jun 15 - 05:31 PM

Don't know about seafaring in general, but Quakers dominated the nineteenth century American whaling trade from Nantucket and New Bedford.


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Jun 15 - 07:17 PM

Mr.Stevebury....

Could you, WOULD you....post, perhaps, your two, to six, best references to the the statement, "Quakers dominated the nineteenth century American whaling trade from Nantucket and New Bedford."

Your statement is not disputed.
And a classic song reocrds it as "advertised in Boston, New York and Buffalo."

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

From my age of eight, in a public school, this has been one of my "top ten."


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 20 Jun 15 - 10:38 AM

There are some chanteys about quaking seafarers (e.g. drunken sailors); I do not know any about seaquakes.


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 21 Jun 15 - 07:46 AM

Gargoyle; The predominant demographic in Nantucket and New Bedford for the better part of the 19th century was in fact Quakers (source, US census, you can look it up). These 2 cities are generally accepted to have been the most prolific ports in the American Whale fishery, followed by New London, CT. & Sag Harbor, NY. The song lyric you quote refers to recruiting posters.


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jun 15 - 12:06 PM

Here's one: Quakers dominated the whaling industry in Nantucket and New Bedford, Massachusetts, for 150 years

Another: The Quakers on Nantucket were strong politically and financially; many were involved in the lucrative whaling industry.

National Park Service: New Bedford Whaling

NY Times Books: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex
By Nathaniel Philbrick.


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Jun 15 - 05:53 PM

Fascinating.


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 05:24 AM

Dear Mr. Beaner,

Thank you fo you knowledgeable and insightful answer.

I followed your advice and found the U.S. Census - it states:

"The U.S. Census Bureau does not collect data on religious affiliation in its demographic surveys or decennial census. Public Law 94-521 prohibits us from asking a question on religious affiliation on a mandatory basis; in some person or household surveys.... Therefore, the U.S. Census Bureau is not the source for information on religion, nor is the Census Bureau the source for information on religious affiliation"


Sincerely,
Gargoyle

as the playground expression goes...."demoted, corroaded, booty exploded."


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 05:31 AM

Thank you Mr. Offer,

Your references, as always are first rate.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

And fascinating to read.


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Subject: RE: Seafaring Quakers
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 09:36 AM

I wonder how Quakers, who are so into service and pacifism, got so into whaling... maybe they (felt people) needed the oil?


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