an unusual experience

Subject: an unusual experience
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 05:56 PM

The other night i came across a piano accordion player who played his right hand in f, but used tonic subdominant and dominant basses that were suitable for c major, so when he was playing f major he used a c major bass when he played his dominant in the right he harm onised with g major and his sub dominant b flat he used f basses, it was bizarre, has anyone had similiar experiences.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 06:06 PM

I once saw a bloke pour custard on his bacon butty. Does that count?

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: GUEST,#
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 06:07 PM

Indeed I have. But it was a half hour after taking a double hit of acid.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: Deckman
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 06:10 PM

I once knew a man who got his twist all tongued up around his eye tooth and he couldn't see what he was saying ....

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 10:21 PM

I like the concept...

Good Soldier...do you recall a tune that he used?

For "I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy"...it only fits (easily) within the chording you reference.

The patriotic holidays are at hand...I was bridging between six, but expanded to eight clearly identifiable national pieces.

The Russian transition was/is the most awkward but "Johnny Has Gone For to Soldier" works. The U.A.E. was impossible until it was placed at the beginning.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Never leave a good box un-squeezed

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 15 - 10:35 PM

Are there examples of this to be found on YouTube?

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 02:09 AM

I once saw a taxi indicate a left turn.

Dave H

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: GUEST,Mark Bluemel
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 04:16 AM

I was playing bass in a band and we started working up "Tall Ships" by Show of Hands.

The guitarist capo'ed at the third fret and played F, G and Am shapes, hence playing Ab, Bb and Cm.

I fluffed and forgot about the capo so played F and G as bass notes before I caught on and played the C correctly. The result was Fm7, Gm7 and Cm, which was rather appealing so we kept it as an variant harmonisation.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: Mo the caller
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 08:04 AM

Was he doing it deliberately, or did he just have his hand one button away from where he thought he was.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: The Sandman
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 08:43 AM

unkowinglybut not accidentally he did it consistently stating he did not know anything about keys, his ears had clearly become corryppted

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: GUEST,Cj
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 09:24 AM

Corryppted? Poor soul, that sounds painful.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 09:42 AM

It is called bitonality. You can always say it's avant-garde music and the listener is just not up-to-date.

Buskers who are not up to their task are quite common, alas. Some just don't realize, others don't care as long as the pennies flow.

Forgot to put the capo? Yes, I did that once, and realized only after the first chord. Advice: keep smiling and place the capo swiftly but without visible haste.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 09:58 AM

Schweik, in answer to your question, no, I have never run across anything like that. Let's hope it doesn't catch on.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 10:38 AM

I've seen a one armed man play a left handed guitar backwards, but thn I am Irish

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Jun 15 - 10:56 AM

I have noticed you use that a couple of times, Desi, so you may enjoy this song by Anthony John Clarke.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Jun 15 - 05:23 AM

The problem could have been sorted easily,but I did not want to say anything in front of other people, i am just amazaed that the player who had a good ear for picking up melodies could not hear the harmonic inappropriateness.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Jun 15 - 05:51 AM

there was a guitarist at Bromyard, probably last year who moved the capo in a glissando up and down several times in his piece. It sort of worked. Not sure what key changes he achieved but it was to change key.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: G-Force
Date: 24 Jun 15 - 06:05 AM

As a piano accordian player, I have occasionally done that in a noisy environment (e.g. a barn dance gig) where I couldn't hear that my left hand was one row out, as Mo said above.

The traditional music world is full of people who play from intuition or culture rather than musical education. Possibly the gentleman was under the impression that because a tune starts on a C it's in C, not F. That's something which I've encountered quite often.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: GUEST,Mark Bluemel
Date: 24 Jun 15 - 07:30 AM

Mr Red wrote "there was a guitarist at Bromyard, probably last year who moved the capo in a glissando up and down several times in his piece. It sort of worked. Not sure what key changes he achieved but it was to change key. "

That, together with the use of a tuner in a "Scruggs Peg" manner, is pretty much the whole point of John Martyn's 7 Black Roses

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 24 Jun 15 - 09:25 AM

I once heard somebody in a singaround singing in one key while accompanying herself in another. She was a fourth out, so if she was singing in, say, C, she was playing the guitar accompaniment as though she were in G. She seemed to realise about half way through, and changed to the right chords. Weird thing is, she was singing in tune throughout.
John Kelly.

Subject: RE: an unusual experience
From: treewind
Date: 24 Jun 15 - 11:19 AM

I've seen a melodeon player with a D/G box play a tune in G accompanied by unchanging C basses and chords all the way through.

(For the uninitiated, a D/G box with 8 bass buttons can do C, G, D, A, Eminor and B on the LH)