Subject: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: The Sandman Date: 10 Jul 15 - 03:43 AM Home | About Our Festival | Maritime Heritage | Song For the Sea Programme of Events | Buy Tickets | Links | Contacts & Useful Info Festival Programme Friday The Met 3.00pm - 5.00pm Come all ye bold mariners! ….Welcome singaround Festival Concert m.c. Derek Gifford and Chris Milner 7.00pm Monkeys Fist 7.25pm Malcolm Ward 7.50pm Peter Taylor 8.15pm Steve Dawes & Helen Pitt 8.40pm Dick Miles 9.05pm Armstrongs Patent 9.30 Interval 9.45pm Andy Kenna 10.10pm Withernsea Pirates 10.35pm Derek Gifford 11.00pm Devils Water Finishes at 11.40pm Saturday 10.00am See the Sea-Birds of Whitby. With your amiable and knowledgeable guide, Derek Gifford. Meet beneath Scoresby's Polar Bear on the old town side of swing bridge - appropriate footwear recommended. Rifle Club 11.30am Meet 'n' Greet - 'Rum and Shanties' with Armstrong's Patent from Appingedam, Holland. Enjoy a tot of rum…..and coffee! 12.30pm Malcolm Ward - performs songs from his new CD 1.00pm 'Pirates, Dockseys and Press Gangs' - Song and Shanty session Steve Dawes & Helen Pitt with guests Andy Kenna, Stormcrow, Malcolm Ward, Peter Taylor, Dick Miles, Monkeys Fist. Finishes 4.30pm. The Met Day-time Events 11.00am Meet The Artist – Dick Miles Afternoon Concert Chris Milner introduces: 12.00pm Malcolm Ward 12.30pm Corsaires De La Vedre 1.00pm Devils Water 1.30pm Armstrongs Patent 2.00pm Derek Gifford 2.30pm 'Poetry, Songs and Stories of The Sea' with The Scarborough Poets, Boathook Bald, Baggyrinkle and Andy Kenna 4.00pm Dick Miles 4.30pm Stormcrow Festival Concert mc's Derek Gifford and Chris Milner introduce: 6.00pm Last years Song Competition Winner 'Chris Milner' 6.25pm Malcolm Ward 6.50pm Steve Dawes & Helen Pitt 7.15 pm Derek Gifford 7.40 pm Ramshackle Shantymen 8.05 pm Devils Water 8.30pm Interval 8.40 pm Monkeys Fist 9.05 pm Dick Miles 9.30 pm Baggyrinkle 9.55 pm Andy Kenna 10.20 pm Withernsea Pirates 10.45 pm Armstrongs Patent Dockend(Subject to weather) 11.00am – 12.00 pm Baggyrinkle and Monkeys Fist Bandstand 11.30am Devils Water 12.30pm Chris Milner 1.00pm Baggyrinkle 1.30pm Ramshackle Shantymen 2.00pm Monkeys Fist 2.30pm Withernsea Pirates 3.00pm Corsaires De La Vedre 3.30pm Armstrongs Patent (30min) Facepainting 1.00pm - 3pm Sunday Rifle Club 10.30am Song Competition 12.00 noon Andy Kenna and Dick Miles host "At Sea and on Land" with guests Malcolm Ward, Armstrongs Patent, Boathook Bald, Derek Gifford, Stormcrow, Peter Taylor, Steve Dawes & Helen Pitt and Dick Miles Finish 4.00pm The Met 11.00am 'Salty Sea Ladies' Session - Helen Pitt, Sara Dennis, Kate Green etc. Afternoon Concert Chris Milner introduces 12.00pm Peg Powler 12.30pm Dick Miles 1.00pm Baggyrinkle 1.30pm Andy Kenna 2.00pm Derek Gifford 2.25pm Peter Taylor 2.40pm Steve Dawes & Helen Pitt 3.05pm Boathook Bald – A Prawn Mans Life 3.20pm Men Of Staithes 3.40pm Interval 4.00pm Talk and Slide Show 'The Rohilla Disaster 1914' by Peter Thompson MBE RNLI Hon. Curator , Whitby Lifeboat Museum 4.45pm Songs from 'Stormbound' excerpts from the work written and produced by Richard Grainger for the Ghosts Of Heroes Project telling the dramatic tale of the "Rohilla' Disaster of 1914. With Steve Dawes, Sara Dennis, Monkeys Fist, Richard Grainger, Chris Parkinson, Helen Pitt, Kevin Young, Men Of Staithes Plus Young People from the Festivals Shoots & Roots Group (Students of Eskdale School, and Caedmon College Whitby) Narrated by Ivan Hall Finale Concert Mc's Richard Grainger and Dick Miles 6.00pm Song Competition Winner 6.10pm Corsaires De la Vedre 6.25pm Chris Milner 6.40pm Withernsea Pirates 6.55pm Devils Water 7.10pm Malcolm Ward 7.25pm Monkeys Fist 7.40pm Richard Grainger & Chris Parkinson 7.55pm Armstrongs Patent Dockend( subject to weather) 11.00am Monkeys Fist and Baggyrinkle (1hr) 1.00pm Stormcrow 1.30pm Monkeys Fist Bandstand 11.00am Armstrongs Patent 11.30am Chris Milner 12.00pm Monkeys Fist 12.30pm Corsaires De La Vedre 1.00pm Devils Water 1.30pm Peg Powler 2.00pm Baggyrinkle 2.30pm Stormcrow 3.00pm Withernsea Pirates 3.30pm Devils Water Facepainting 1.00pm -3.00pm |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: The Sandman Date: 13 Jul 15 - 04:03 PM enjoyable festival |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: GUEST,Good ship Date: 14 Jul 15 - 09:03 AM Was there an audience |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: GUEST Date: 14 Jul 15 - 09:07 AM Did you get paid? |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: The Sandman Date: 14 Jul 15 - 07:00 PM yes and yes |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: GUEST,guest Date: 14 Jul 15 - 07:32 PM None-Event and everyone knows why - an incestuous bunch of cronies. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: FreddyHeadey Date: 15 Jul 15 - 05:04 AM @GUEST,guest - Date: 14 Jul 15 - 07:32 PM Could you post some links to festivals that you'd recommend as being worthwile? |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: The Sandman Date: 16 Jul 15 - 03:15 AM I was there, the weather was good, and the music was good the perfomers included recognised competent performers such as Derek Gifford, monkeys fist, Baggywrinkle, Chris Parkinson. guest guest your comments are negative and you are insulting good performers, If you have some issue with the organisers, may i remind you that insulting the booked performers under a cloak of anonymity,only makes your comments ridiculous, to insult performers anonymously by calling them an incestous bunch of cronies, is both cowardly and inaccurate. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 16 Jul 15 - 12:42 PM You are wasting your time Dick - he's not going to change his mind or come clean. It looked and interesting weekend and under different circumstances (previous engagement) we might well have attended for at least some of the time. Next year perhaps? |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: The Sandman Date: 16 Jul 15 - 02:14 PM if i am still alive, or if someone stops me from playing cricket, what a shame you are not still running whitby folk week, the buggers would not have me for their 5oth year even though i must have played their loads of times over the years,just abunch of old whippersnappers |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: GUEST Date: 17 Jul 15 - 02:05 PM Maybe they've seen your you tube presentations Dick |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: The Sandman Date: 17 Jul 15 - 02:54 PM oh you mean like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqpgT0ClK4or like this http://www.youtube.c...h?v=boqwtu3xPzU when you can do half of what i have done you cowardly anonymous bollocks, then you may have the right to make snide remarks, but since you do not reveal your identity or your playing abilty i would suggest you go and practise |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: The Sandman Date: 17 Jul 15 - 02:57 PM or thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boqwtu3xPzU |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: The Sandman Date: 17 Jul 15 - 03:04 PM or this very apt for whitbyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july From: GUEST,richie Date: 17 Jul 15 - 05:31 PM Dick l dont have a problem with your concertina playing or even your voice however, I don't consider your guitar and especially your banjo playing good enough to expect people to pay to listen to. it may just be ok for the odd folk club but a major festival... no way. anyway the blue clickys really aren't relevant they are all between twenty and thirty five years old and and bear no comparison to your recent U tube presentations. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 18 Jul 15 - 03:26 AM You choose to make an unpleasant cowardly anonymous criticism who are you? Here are some facts there are only one or two RECENT banjo clips, or even recent clips of any kind and those are of good quality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aclGARwOjlQ here are two guitar clip, that makes your comment clearly nonsense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lADsPWsoR4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHql-Taq8DA re some of your other ridiculous comments which NEED TO BE ANSWERED. i have worked consistently at many major festivals over the years ,as well as Clubs this year I am playing only a few ,that is my choice I am 64 years old and wish to spend more time at home in ireland, however I am playing at Saltburn and Tenterden, Two festivals that I have enjoyed over the years and which I find good craic and which I have been consistently rebooked, these are facts not anonymous opinion. I made a light hearted remark to ex festival organiser Malcolm Storey, who was one of two organisers of whitby who booked me consistently over many years. lets now take the remark seriously , why should they book me? well... it is a celebration of 50 years of the festival, I have been booked there many times, and most people are of the opinion I can still play concertina banjo guitar and sing TO A GOOD STANDARD, there are also reasons why they might not wish to book me [overall balance to the festival, too many performers already, too many male performers ,budget etc all of them perfectly acceptable to me. I have just come back from Whitby Sea fest where my music on all instruments was well received, in fact there was a radio presenter there who wished to use one of my self penned songs accompanied on guitar for his programme. I enjoyed the festival, and it seemed like people enjoyed my performances. if an organiser wishes to book me on certain conditions[ for example Cork Singers Club, who have a rule that it is unaccompanied singing only, I will accomodate. There are banjo clips from some five years ago AND OVER[ hardly recent] which I keep up there for my own benefit to monitor my improvement from when I began,no one has ever said they will not book me because of these, and might I point out I am in demand to play here in Ireland as well as the UK, but I limit my work in the UK for many reasons one being lack of desire to be continually travelling, I have done too much in the past. If organisers wish to hear me I direct them to my website www.dickmiles.com where there are professional recordings available, and which are an accurate indication of my live performances. you are a nasty vindictive cowardly person , that does not have the balls to say who you really are or to leave your proper contact adress. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 18 Jul 15 - 05:47 AM here is a recent recording done this very morning july 18 2016, can you do better you nasty anonymous coward.https://youtu.be/wphF2HZgG68 |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 18 Jul 15 - 05:49 AM Dick; for the sake of accuracy I can only recall booking you twice in the 25 years I was involved. If you can prove this not so then so be it. There was no particular reason for this other than if I was bringing someone over from Ireland then I would prefer someone Irish. There were lots of those that I would have loved to have had at Whitby but never got around to. Incidentally Jim Bainbridge suffered in the same way. Sorry but cheers |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 18 Jul 15 - 06:39 AM When did you take the festival on, Malcolm? 1981 I reckon I have been booked there since 1977, 6 Times. It is of course every organisers right to decide on their own booking policy. My policy at my festival is to book people on merit, so for example if I wanted to book Peggy Seeger, I would book her regardless of the fact that she was an American living in England, but as I said every organiser has a right to have their own policy, you managed to run Whitby successfully for 25 years, that was some achievement, I take my hat off to you, you did a good job and clearly have been a hard act to follow. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: FreddyHeadey Date: 18 Jul 15 - 08:29 AM Blimey, GUEST,guest - Date: 14 Jul 15 - 07:32 PM GUEST Date: 17 Jul 15 - 02:05 PM GUEST,richie - Date: 17 Jul 15 - 05:31 PM Whoever you are its great that you want to be involved in improving the music we hear at concerts and festivals. You seem to have some real emotions behind what you are saying. I'd love to hear more from you... What I typed there weren't my initial thoughts but I've been googling... http://m.wikihow.com/Criticize-Constructively I confess I'm a bit stuck now. Anything I type comes over as patronising or sarcastic! Maybe we can learn together? What would you like to hear next? |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 18 Jul 15 - 03:55 PM 1982 - 2006 = 25 cheers |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Richie Date: 18 Jul 15 - 03:58 PM Freddy H.my first post was 17july 15 0205 and was in response to Dick's whinge as to why he hasn't been booked at Whitby. Dick if you really believe that your rendition of John O dreams was good enough for a paying audience then I'm afraid you are deluding yourself and if that's the case then there's no more to be said. However I will endeavour to upload onto mudcat my version of the same song ( it may take a while as I'm not computer savvy) Richie is my real name, I'm from the north east. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 18 Jul 15 - 04:09 PM Mmalcolm, I played 1977, 78, 79, 1980, 1980, 1981 1982, and some time in the late 90s. Richie what? and where are you from in the north east, do you get booked to play at festivals and clubs. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 18 Jul 15 - 04:46 PM if you are so good mr anonymous richie, try learning and doing this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clxLDomaJ6o |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 18 Jul 15 - 08:17 PM I have checked my records and you are not on the list for 1982 - the year in the 90s was 1996. So overall you have done 6 of the 50 festivals if your other dates are correct. My artiste selection formula would be hard to explain. Probably slightly more difficult than the Duckworth - Lewis system - although I had a pal called Phil Duckworth in my teens and early twenties. He didn't sing or play any sport - that was another pal called Colin Page and we once came second in a talent competition singing an Everly Brothers number! Heady days. Think I'll go to bed. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 18 Jul 15 - 08:34 PM Malcolm, anyone that runs a festival succesfully for 25 years is a hero, John Taylor at saltburn is doing well. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: doc.tom Date: 19 Jul 15 - 05:24 AM And to return to the original post, rather than a debate between Malcolm and Dick about Dick's appearances at the Whitby AUGUST festival - our apologies to all those(however few you may be), who having read the Whitby local press this year, were disappointed that BB & I were not, in fact, booked at Richard's Sea Fest. He didn't ask - we didn't beg. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 19 Jul 15 - 08:49 AM thats a good idea Tom, let us talk about your good selves, you put in a good show for me at fastnetmaritime.com, two or three years ago , thankyou for your contribution to the festival,much appreciated. its a trifle peculiar but I have played most of the folk clubs and festivals in the north east, in fact over the last 50 years i was the most booked artist at one north eastern folk club[ stockton sun], and have never met or come acro the so called "richie" the anonymous cowardly poster, that was so kind to grudgingly admit that he did not mind my voice or concertina. until this person gives his proper full name, contact adress, and put up videos showing his own expertise, i am inclined to think he is someone else who does not have the balls to introduce himself and tell us what folk clubs he attends, just another anonymous internet cowardly shit. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: Steve Gardham Date: 19 Jul 15 - 09:02 AM Dick, please give it a rest! You're not doing yourself any favours. Steve |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 19 Jul 15 - 01:24 PM Steve, I have sent you a very clear message |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Date: 19 Jul 15 - 02:33 PM Tom. I posted what I thought was a supportive message. I then - for the sake of accuracy, something Mudcat does not always feature - corrected Dick's statement. If I offended anyone I fail to see how. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 19 Jul 15 - 03:45 PM you have not offended me, Malcolm. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 19 Jul 15 - 05:35 PM here is a rendition of a song that i performed lat week at Whitby Sea Festival on guitar for the benefit of the person who calls himself richie, if you seriously think that this is not of a standard for public performance, please provide us with a better rendition in the meantime might i suggest you realise that music speaks for itself here it ishttps://youtu.be/eGlgf8KWqEo |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: doc.tom Date: 20 Jul 15 - 02:09 AM Nor me, Malcolm! |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: Richard Bridge Date: 20 Jul 15 - 05:35 AM It is difficult MELODIOUSLY to blow one's own trumpet. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 20 Jul 15 - 11:37 AM Louis Armstrong excelled at it. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 20 Jul 15 - 01:41 PM Sadly Dick, judging by this thread you don't. Time, me thinks, to pull your horns in. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 20 Jul 15 - 03:01 PM I am the only person who has put up you tube clips to illustrate that my recent and present playing was competent not incompetent, this was in answer to a personal attack on my music, there were also a number of earlier anonymous comments about payment and attendance, which do not show anonymous posters or Mudcat at its best. this thread was started as an attempt to promote a folk music event in the uk, other people have come in and made anonymous statements which they have not been prepared to back up, neither have any of those people had the guts to say who they REALLY are. Any coward can come on here and say they are guest SO AND SO., AND then be negative about a festival or negative about something else, perhaps they should try organising events themselves. This is not opinion but a factual account of what has happened on this thread . |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 20 Jul 15 - 04:32 PM Furthermore the month of august is one of the best months for me to be in Ireland, I can, if i want be getting paid for playing music most nights of the week. I do not need to come over to play at festivals in the uk, IN AUGUST, in fact often it means I am turning down gigs in Ireland, my remark made to Malcolm was a joke, hence the joking phrase "a bunch of old whippersnappers" I come over and play at Saltburn IN AUGUST out of choice., because I like Saltburn and I like John Taylor, way back in 1978 he was someone who gave me some of my first gigs in the north east. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST Date: 21 Jul 15 - 11:27 AM .......I'm reminded of a quote "Sometimes glass glitters more than diamonds because it has more to prove." ― Terry Pratchett, The Truth |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,merrylocks Date: 22 Jul 15 - 05:38 PM Just dropped on this hugh rant. Surely as a festival director it is their choice who they book. Imagine if every miffed failure to get booked was to go off on a tangent and demand statics and explanations why they were not booked. Arrange your own festival, take on the responsibility and time that it takes and book yourself. Problem solved |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Guest - none of the above Date: 22 Jul 15 - 05:45 PM Er - Dick does actually organise a well regarded event in Ireland. Just doesn't always do himself any favours here. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 23 Jul 15 - 01:06 PM guest merrylocks, i entirely agree and if you had bothered to read my previous posts, like this one you would have realised that i said that. it might be agod idea if you read my posts before making comments Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: Good Soldier Schweik - PM Date: 18 Jul 15 - 06:39 AM When did you take the festival on, Malcolm? 1981 I reckon I have been booked there since 1977, 6 Times. It is of course every organisers right to decide on their own booking policy. My policy at my festival is to book people on merit, so for example if I wanted to book Peggy Seeger, I would book her regardless of the fact that she was an American living in England, but as I said every organiser has a right to have their own policy, you managed to run Whitby successfully for 25 years, that was some achievement, I take my hat off to you, you did a good job and clearly have been a hard act to follow. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 23 Jul 15 - 02:28 PM yes, the fastnet maritime festival is successful.guests, last year included MARTIN CARTHY, Matt Cranitch, Jackie Daly,see fastnetmaritime.com. obviously as a organiser I am aware that festival directors have to provide a balanced programme and that many good artists cannot be fitted in. this thread and the silly anonymous guests who wish to troll by taking a light hearted remark, made as a joke, and going on about it are wasting everyones time, good night. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 24 Jul 15 - 12:24 PM https://youtu.be/eX8x7b1t9OA the best way to answer is through the music |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Richie (north east) Date: 03 Aug 15 - 11:56 AM As promised my rendition of John O Dreams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3mv1coexs |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 03 Aug 15 - 03:08 PM Can't fault that rendition Richie |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 03 Aug 15 - 04:44 PM here,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhogBJ-Iz5g&fea I am not in the business of bothering to criticise other performers, I have no desire to sound like anyone else. |
Subject: RE: whitby sea fest 10 11 12 july (2015) From: The Sandman Date: 03 Aug 15 - 04:52 PM Richie, now listen to the guy who wrote the songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlDMBojZbpE |
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