Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafemuddy

Post to this Thread - Sort Descending - Printer Friendly - Home


Emoticons - suddenly I see the point

Vic Smith 10 Jul 15 - 03:21 PM
Vic Smith 10 Jul 15 - 05:56 PM
Joe_F 10 Jul 15 - 06:37 PM
Jack Campin 10 Jul 15 - 07:20 PM
michaelr 10 Jul 15 - 07:25 PM
Joe Offer 10 Jul 15 - 07:26 PM
Jack Campin 10 Jul 15 - 07:27 PM
michaelr 10 Jul 15 - 11:26 PM
Gurney 11 Jul 15 - 02:01 AM
Mo the caller 11 Jul 15 - 02:50 AM
GUEST,CS 11 Jul 15 - 03:04 AM
GUEST,Ed 11 Jul 15 - 03:13 AM
GUEST,Jack Campin 11 Jul 15 - 05:00 AM
Vic Smith 11 Jul 15 - 06:12 AM
Noreen 11 Jul 15 - 11:03 AM
Rob Naylor 11 Jul 15 - 07:43 PM
Rob Naylor 12 Jul 15 - 02:45 AM
John Minear 12 Jul 15 - 08:23 AM
Bill D 12 Jul 15 - 09:44 AM
GUEST 12 Jul 15 - 09:49 AM
GUEST,Ed 12 Jul 15 - 10:13 AM
GUEST 12 Jul 15 - 10:21 AM
GUEST,Grishka 12 Jul 15 - 10:23 AM
GUEST,😇 12 Jul 15 - 10:36 AM
FreddyHeadey 12 Jul 15 - 12:42 PM
Richard Mellish 12 Jul 15 - 03:46 PM
Vic Smith 12 Jul 15 - 06:55 PM
Jack Campin 12 Jul 15 - 08:44 PM
Reinhard 12 Jul 15 - 11:34 PM
GUEST,Scabby douglas 13 Jul 15 - 04:30 AM
Jack Campin 13 Jul 15 - 05:16 AM
Noreen 13 Jul 15 - 06:12 AM
Phil Edwards 13 Jul 15 - 08:16 AM
Phil Edwards 13 Jul 15 - 08:22 AM
GUEST 13 Jul 15 - 11:32 AM
GUEST,😇 13 Jul 15 - 11:38 AM
Vic Smith 13 Jul 15 - 12:20 PM
Vic Smith 20 Jul 15 - 08:47 AM
Vic Smith 20 Jul 15 - 08:49 AM
Reinhard 20 Jul 15 - 10:19 AM
GUEST,Ed 20 Jul 15 - 11:39 AM
Noreen 20 Jul 15 - 05:46 PM
Vic Smith 27 Jul 15 - 02:59 PM
Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:









Subject: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Vic Smith
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 03:21 PM

I have never seen the point of emoticons. Then suddenly I see this from the very creative Frank Ingnobody and I can understand what is going on (and thanks to Lawrence if he helped him out).


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Vic Smith
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 05:56 PM

Has anyone worked out what it is? I think it is very clever.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Joe_F
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 06:37 PM

Smile when you say that, mister!
%^)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Jack Campin
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 07:20 PM

I can't work out all the details but I get the general idea.

Maybe somebody could subtitle a YouTube video of it that way.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: michaelr
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 07:25 PM

Jaysus, I can't be arsed. Another nail in the coffin of language.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 07:26 PM

Oh, darn. I'm never good at catching on to these things, and then I feel so left out when everybody else seems to know..


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Jack Campin
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 07:27 PM

They aren't in coffins.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: michaelr
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:26 PM

The English language is, Jack.

Joe, there's no need to feel left out of crap you wouldn't want to be a part of.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Gurney
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 02:01 AM

Well, I couldn't be arsed either.
Anyway, emoticons are stuff like this :-) to indicate an intention when sending brief messages, aren't they?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Mo the caller
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 02:50 AM

It's more like a rebus (pictogram).
That one wouldn't help unless you already knew the words of the song.
e.g. I can't remember the sailors name and that doesn't tell me, so it's not even a proper rebus.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 03:04 AM

A King sitting in his throne, drinking red wine. Followed by a question about sailors and ships.

The first line gives it away - I'm surprised no-one here's got it yet.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 03:13 AM

Some of us did get it, but didn't want to give an obvious spoiler away...

Ho hum. Whether it's a 'proper' rebus puzzle or not, I enjoyed solving it, so thanks Vic.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 05:00 AM

This might be a clue:

http://tinyurl.com/oxo8hl3


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 06:12 AM

It was that third symbol that Jack links to that was the give away for me. I have made many visits to the 'auld grey toun' in decades past and remembered their civic coat of arms.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 11:03 AM

Yes- good fun, thanks Vic :)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 07:43 PM

Had to "read" a few lines, but got it pretty quickly, which surprised me as my initial mindset was not expecting a song!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 02:45 AM

I think, though, that rather than "emoticons" these are what have come to be described as "emojis"....originally pictograms used by the Japanese in their electronic comms, with a much wider variety than the original emoticons that could be cobbled up from an ASCII character set.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: John Minear
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 08:23 AM

You miss things if you stick to the point. - Hmong saying


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 09:44 AM

If you DON'T stick to the point, everyone else misses things.

old Bill D saying I just made up.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 09:49 AM

Must be dim. I haven't a clue.
Is it a really well known song?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 10:13 AM

Is it a really well known song?

I suppose that depends upon your terms of reference.

Well known to the general public? No.

Well known to people familiar with British traditional songs? I'd say yes.

Although I'd admit that I probably wouldn't have got it if I'd not heard Martin Carthy singing it last week, which brought it to the front of my mind.

If you look back through the previous posts: CS gives a King drinking wine and Jack Campin links to the Coat of Arms for Dunfermline.

Whack those terms into a search engine and you're pretty much there...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 10:21 AM

Funny indeed. Would be even more striking if it were made entirely of "icons" found elsewhere - most are obviously ad-hoc. I love those direction signs; who can fathom them (let alone fadom)?

GUEST: the song is not in the charts currently. Jack Campin (11 Jul 15 - 05:00 AM) gave a very good clue - click your way through Wikipedia. Or Google the other clues. Any more would amount to a spoiler.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 10:23 AM

That (12 Jul 15 - 10:21 AM) was I.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,😇
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 10:36 AM

Well, that was fun.

Can we have 'join the dots' and 'colouring in' songs to occupy us on the next rainy July afternoon.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 12:42 PM

crayons out...don't click till it rains


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 03:46 PM

I identified the ballad from the king, the throne and the wine, and concluded from those that the shield must represent Dunfermline. I still don't get all of it. And the July dates surprised me, as I have always assumed that the bad time of year for the voyage was the winter, though I concede that we do get thunderstorms in the summer.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Vic Smith
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 06:55 PM

Richard Mellish wrote
"And the July dates surprised me,"


Hmm. I think that the 'July' is not as important as conveying the three days of the verse that runs:-
They hoisted their sails on Monenday morn,
With all the speed they may;
And they have landed in Noroway
Upon a Wodensday


... and I think we must be careful about taking what is clearly intended as a bit of fun too seriously.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 08:44 PM

"Monanday" could mean the first Monday of the year.

On the other hand the Maid of Norway (assuming the ballad is about her) was drowned in late September.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Reinhard
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 11:34 PM

Yes, the 'July' is not as important as conveying the three days of the verse that runs:-

   They had not sailed upon the sea
   A day, a day, but barely three,
   When loud and boisterous grew the wind
   And loud and stormy grew the sea


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,Scabby douglas
Date: 13 Jul 15 - 04:30 AM

... I read the previous post and thought "*stormy* grew the sea"? I don't remember that - but it's decades since I read it. And the word I had in my head was "gurly".

Turns out that stuff you read in school 4 decades ago stays with you more than you might imagine:

"When the lift grew dark, an the wind blew loud An gurly grew the sea"


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Jul 15 - 05:16 AM

Most listeners would hear that as saying the waves turned pink and the rigging was overwhelmed by a tangle of swirling satin ribbons decorated with blingy crystals.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Noreen
Date: 13 Jul 15 - 06:12 AM

Probably became most well known through the singing of Fairport Convention over the years, but also a set text for AQA English A level.

Jack Campin, your picture made me smile ��


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 13 Jul 15 - 08:16 AM

Vic - I got it at emoticon four of line one! (I've got the first two lines engraved on the back of my iPod.) What do I win?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 13 Jul 15 - 08:22 AM

...although lines 8 and 9 (of 10) lost me completely (the ladies have got fans in their hands in the versions I know best, not combs and mirrors).


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jul 15 - 11:32 AM

Yipee, Phil!

You know a different version. Thank you so much for sharing.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,😇
Date: 13 Jul 15 - 11:38 AM

Then you really don't want to know what the ladies have got in their hands
in another version I could sing.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Vic Smith
Date: 13 Jul 15 - 12:20 PM

Phil Edwards wrote
"What do I win?"


Well done Phil! Here is your most appropriate prize -


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Vic Smith
Date: 20 Jul 15 - 08:47 AM

Now that you have got the idea, this next one from F shoul be much


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Vic Smith
Date: 20 Jul 15 - 08:49 AM

Whoops!

Now that you have got the idea, this next one from Frank Ingnobody should be much easier.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Reinhard
Date: 20 Jul 15 - 10:19 AM

The Turkish flag makes the puzzle quite obvious, Vic.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 20 Jul 15 - 11:39 AM

Yep, easy peasy!

And for a very fine version (spoiler alert) try here


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Noreen
Date: 20 Jul 15 - 05:46 PM

A very fine version indeed, thanks Ed.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Emoticons - suddenly I see the point
From: Vic Smith
Date: 27 Jul 15 - 02:59 PM

The next one is very easy indeed


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
  Share Thread:
More...

Reply to Thread
Subject:  Help
From:
Preview   Automatic Linebreaks   Make a link ("blue clicky")


Mudcat time: 23 September 3:53 PM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.