Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 15 Feb 24 - 01:05 PM > The company claims that it doesn't even need antivirus > software! This sort of nonsense is trotted out every time something viewed as sufficiently new comes along, and the New types of systems don't get the *same* infections as existing ones, but new ones, tailored to the quirks and bugs in the newness. There's two sorts of computer users: those who think they can't possibly get hit, and those who've found they already have. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates From: DaveRo Date: 15 Feb 24 - 12:38 PM Our Thinkpad L430 keeps keeps reminding me that it won't run Windows 11. So could I run ChromeOs Flex? Yes! It's been Certified by Google! And it will be supported by Google until ..... 2025. Isn't that when Windows 10 support ends? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Feb 24 - 11:31 AM Here's a response from Google to the pending end (2025) of Windows 10: Worried about the impending demise of Windows 10? Google wants you to give ChromeOS Flex a try Hello, Mr. Frying Pan, meet Mr. Fire Google has weighed in on the controversy surrounding Microsoft's plans to render millions of Windows 10 PCs obsolete in 2025 by urging users to pop on a copy of ChromeOS Flex instead. Read the rest at the link. There are lots of hotlinks in the text to supporting articles. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 27 Aug 23 - 11:20 AM I have cleaned stray files from my desktop and am considering updating to Win11. But it's so much work to put files back into place and install all of my software. I have external drives for different types of files and one for a backup, and have in the past disconnected those before an OS upgrade to keep the computer from accidentally wiping the data. Reattaching them isn't always easy. How have any of you managed this upgrade with external drives? Also - Microsoft has "Libraries" for file management and by pointing my Libraries to different drives mine always seem to end up with a couple of empty library links in the "Quick Access" area or "This PC" list. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Aug 23 - 04:00 PM Well I have updated to 11 some time ago with no apparent ill effects. I suppose that if you are worried about external drives it might be best to disconnect them while upgrading. There is not a lot of obvious (to me) difference between WIN 10 and WIN11 |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 28 Aug 23 - 11:55 PM 1000 days - left me in a serious, deep, tech hole. Six weeks ago ... I was "given a mission." In-put, our-put, hardware, OS, memory had ALL changed. Lock-downs did a serious number on my mind ... I had no clue. Sincerly, Gargoyle |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 28 Aug 23 - 11:55 PM 1000 days - left me in a serious, deep, tech hole. Six weeks ago ... I was "given a mission." In-put, our-put, hardware, OS, memory had ALL changed. Lock-downs did a serious number on my mind ... I had no clue. Sincerly, Gargoyle |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Aug 23 - 04:00 PM Well I have updated to 11 some time ago with no apparent ill effects. I suppose that if you are worried about external drives it might be best to disconnect them while upgrading. There is not a lot of obvious (to me) difference between WIN 10 and WIN11 |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Aug 23 - 11:47 AM Windows 10 Home and Pro Windows 10 Home and Pro follows the Modern Lifecycle Policy. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 27 Aug 23 - 11:20 AM I have cleaned stray files from my desktop and am considering updating to Win11. But it's so much work to put files back into place and install all of my software. I have external drives for different types of files and one for a backup, and have in the past disconnected those before an OS upgrade to keep the computer from accidentally wiping the data. Reattaching them isn't always easy. How have any of you managed this upgrade with external drives? Also - Microsoft has "Libraries" for file management and by pointing my Libraries to different drives mine always seem to end up with a couple of empty library links in the "Quick Access" area or "This PC" list. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 06 Jul 21 - 08:52 AM Have any Lenovo or other PC owners had this message - "error1962 no operating system found, boot sequence will automatically repeat" ? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 06 Jul 21 - 08:45 AM And what's happening with the Windows 11 rollout and do we want it? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 05 Jul 21 - 10:33 PM Some topical adjacent Microsoft vs Amazon cloud storage stuff, for those whose curiosity extends this far: AWS vs Azure: Your Guide to Choosing the Best Cloud Provider in 2021 |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Nick Date: 25 May 21 - 08:59 AM I haven't used IE for years. And don't have any need for Pro. The fun people have. I'm quite enjoying running Big Sur Mac on my Windows 10 Home machine as I was interesting in trying Logic Pro (and yes it works). It does enough for me. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 25 May 21 - 08:38 AM Windows 7 Enterprise enables upgrade to Windows 10 pro, in fact it took just 90 minutes to complete download/installations on a new SSD! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: punkfolkrocker Date: 24 May 21 - 09:46 AM A 12 min video from 2019.. .. probably still as relevant... Why Did I Upgrade To Windows 10???? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 May 21 - 03:23 PM And I always advise people to upgrade from the "home" version of any operating system to the pro version. It looks like there is an opportunity now to do that free: How to upgrade from Windows 10 Home to Pro for free You've got a new PC running Windows 10 Home. You want to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro. Here's how to get that upgrade for free. All you need is a Pro/Ultimate product key from an older version of Windows. If you purchase a new PC with Windows 10 Home preinstalled, prepare to be annoyed. This down-market edition (maybe we should just call it Windows for Cheapskates) doesn't have the features you need for getting real work done: Remote Desktop server access, BitLocker disk encryption, group policy support, and control over when updates get installed, just for starters. I don't usually enter the entire text, but this one seems like something people will want to try in the future and the link might not be durable. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 May 21 - 03:17 PM Here's one I've been expecting for a while; since Microsoft has a robust version (and a Beta version) of MS Edge, they're finally killing of most of the support for Internet Explorer. Microsoft is dropping support for IE on many versions of Windows 10 on June 15, 2022 Microsoft is taking another big step toward getting rid of Internet Explorer next year, but not every Windows variant still will be IE-free by 2022. We've known seemingly forever that Microsoft someday intended to get rid of Internet Explorer. But it wasn't until today, May 19, that we got an actual date. IE will be removed from many, but not all, versions of Windows 10 on June 15, 2022. There are a number of linked passages in that text that I'm not adding here, so visit the link for more information. I use Edge for a couple of dedicated tasks - when the main version opens it has about eight tabs to do with some work that I perform every day and gives me all of the sites I work on in relation to that. And I use the Beta version for a few personal things (no extra tabs, but the site keeps a list of regularly used sites I visit for quick access.) |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Mar 21 - 04:27 PM I deleted the unknown device then let Dell's diagnostic software look at the machine for missing software and updated the driver for this WiFi/Bluetooth card. Now the Windows Update has happened again and this time the Bluetooth appears to be okay. It took a few days to realize that something was wrong as far as the computer, not just a case of defunct headphones, plus 24 hours of fussing with the computer to fix it. No dust disturbed in the process, several restarts and aside from a couple of hours lost in that one system restore, it's a good outcome. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Mar 21 - 12:34 PM You're on the right path, Dave. There is now an "unknown device" in the device list, and I'm finding chatter at Dell about this. Before I reset BIOS to factory or open the case and remove the coin battery or do a selective system restore (I did that last night and it took a couple of hours, and didn't work) I've found this info at Dell: Removing the Unknown USB Device and installing the latest version of bluetooth drivers helps resolve the issue. This is the least painful (versus moving stuff off my desk, moving my desk, opening the now dusty cover, etc.) to try first. The trick to using this method is that while I printed a copy to refer to while the computer is off, I also printed to PDF that I saved on my desktop so I can use the links as they appear in the article to find the exact drivers they point to. The answer seems to be that somehow Windows knocked out the Bluetooth, this happened after last week's update, but I don't know what it did or how widespread (is this across different computer companies, or just at Dell?) |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: DaveRo Date: 19 Mar 21 - 03:40 AM Is it built-in or USB? Either way I'd probably look in the device manager to see if it can see the BT adapter, and if so reinstall its driver, preferably from the manufacturer's website - if you can find one. If it's up to date try an older one. It doesn't always work though; since I had to reinstall Win10 on my wife's laptop I can't get the trackpoint to work even with Lenovo's own drivers. If it can't see the BT device at all it could be that it's been 'killed'. It's usually only laptops that have killswitches - often a function key that switches off all 'radios' - wifi and bluetooth, or either of them. (This is another thing that doesn't work on the Lenovo.) So when you've exhausted drivers investigate that. (Google 'rfkill windows' or similar.) |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Mar 21 - 12:25 AM I'm not sure if the update killed my Bluetooth, but a system restore didn't restore it. Now to figure out where the device lives and see about replacing it. Getting under the hood is something I'm willing to do, rather than take a computer to a shop and let someone else slog around in there. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Mar 21 - 08:23 PM I've tried all of those approaches to pull up the icon to turn it on. It keeps telling me to turn it on but gives me no way to do it. I'm now running an update from Dell and after it restarts I'll see if it has been restored. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Joe Offer Date: 18 Mar 21 - 07:51 PM SRS, do you get anything if you type bluetooth in the search box on the bar at the bottom left corner of your screen? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Mar 21 - 07:44 PM There was a big update a few days ago and it killed off my Bluetooth icon. I can't connect my headphones or any other devices because the icon is gone, not there to be turned on or off. None of the tips so far have given me a clue as to how to restore the icon. Any ideas? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Jan 21 - 05:13 PM From Gizmodo: This New Windows 10 Bug Could Brick Your PC.
According to Tom’s Guide, the bug was recently discovered by Windows security researcher Jonas Lykkegaard, who’s been tweeting about the issue on-and-off since October 2020. Lykkegaard explained that when the above path is opened in Windows 10, regardless of if the user has administrative privileges or not, the system can’t properly check for errors when it tries to connect to the path, resulting in a BSOD crash. Aside from developers, there isn’t much of a reason why an average Windows 10 user would want to dig around in the root folders, especially at the kernel level; the Windows kernel is a crucial program that allows the operating system to function, controlling everyday processes like running drivers, and starting and ending programs. . . .While Gizmodo hasn’t tested the link ourselves (out of an abundance of caution that it might kill one of our few test PCs), both Tom’s Guide and BleepingComputer have sacrificed a PC for the cause. The PC that Tom’s Guide used became stuck in an Automatic Repair boot loop. BleepingComputer didn’t say if its PC made it out alive, but it confirmed this bug is present on Windows 10 version 1709 and later. The rest is at the link. I've used both Tom's Guide and Bleeping Computer when solving computing and software issues. Bleeping Computer in particular has a lot of answers, but search before you ask a question. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Joe G Date: 25 Oct 20 - 12:16 PM I read somewhere that it may delete Program Files and Program data which is even more worrying! I don't know if this is a common problem but I'm not updating until I can be sure it has been ironed out! I haven't downloaded the earlier release yet either - my PC hasn't pushed it on me so I'll leave well alone! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: GUEST,CJB666 Date: 25 Oct 20 - 08:34 AM Don't use Edge. Does this update delete user files too - like last year? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Oct 20 - 02:17 PM Windows 10: Best 3 new features, and how to use them The Windows 10 October 2020 Update brings some new tricks for your browser, Start menu and more. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: DaveRo Date: 21 Oct 20 - 03:33 AM EBarnacle wrote: The really interesting thing about the new rollout is that it, and future updates, is supposed to be largely Linux based.I was wondering whether that was where Windows was going up thread. Last month Eric Raymond (an open source 'guru' - he wrote The Cathedral and the Bazaar) claimed in a widely-shared piece that Microsoft was "Switching To a Linux Kernel That Emulates Windows". I didn't see any articles that refuted that. Until the other day, when a Ubuntu guy disagreed. (But if not, why 'WSL'?) Whichever - Windows seems to be moving to a Linux-style package manager with the release of 'winget', which is rip-off of the aptget package manager used in several Linux systems. So maybe restarting during system updates will one day become a bad memory for Windows users. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Oct 20 - 03:41 PM NSA publishes list of top vulnerabilities currently targeted by Chinese hackers NSA urges US public and private sector to apply patches or mitigations to prevent attacks. The US National Security Agency has published today an in-depth report detailing the top 25 vulnerabilities that are currently being consistently scanned, targeted, and exploited by Chinese state-sponsored hacking groups. And on a completely different note, Ransomware gang donates part of ransom demands to charity organizations The Darkside ransomware gang has donated $10K it received as part of ransom demands to Children International and The Water Project. Robin Hood? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: EBarnacle Date: 23 Sep 20 - 02:00 PM The really interesting thing about the new rollout is that it, and future updates, is supposed to be largely Linux based. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 23 Sep 20 - 01:24 PM I'll possible give that a miss for a few months!! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Sep 20 - 12:10 PM It looks like there's another big update rollout in October, 2020. This ZD Net page has links to a bunch of related topics. This is the heading and subhead on the page:
Sometimes they release versions for specific types of devices (servers versus personal computers, enterprise versus home use, etc.) so see if there's anything useful here for anyone interested. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 30 Aug 20 - 05:37 PM Guest at 05:34 pm was me, I forgot our old laptop was not logged in! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: GUEST Date: 30 Aug 20 - 05:34 PM Found the solution to uninstalling Edge Chromium browser - How to uninstall edge chromium when windows won't let you |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Jos Date: 13 Aug 20 - 07:58 AM I have just been told of someone who found all their photographs had been deleted by a bug in the recent Windows 10 update. Has anyone else found this? |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 11 Aug 20 - 07:35 PM I have 2004 but did the fix to retain Edge Legacy. Now here's a queer thing, I cloned my hard drive to an SSD using SATA to USB converter, which booted up OK but my external hard drives are not showing up in file explorer. However, after reconnecting my old hard drive everything is fine. So I did the clone again but this time with the SSD connected via SATA - will see tomorrow!! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Aug 20 - 06:50 PM I've notice a slowdown also. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Tattie Bogle Date: 11 Aug 20 - 06:22 PM Whatever they did a few days ago, it has slowed my Windows 10 right down! Other friends have said the same. One of them mentioned update no 2004 and managed to roll it back. Anyone else had similar problems? (UK- based.) |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 11 Aug 20 - 05:53 PM I'm just cloning my hard drive to ssd, I'll have no interference from damned updates!!! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Aug 20 - 04:51 PM Heads up! It's Patch Tuesday, and apparently there are a whole bunch of updates. Microsoft August 2020 Patch Tuesday fixes 120 vulnerabilities, two zero-days Microsoft says attackers have used a Windows zero-day to spoof file signatures and another RCE in the Internet Explorer scripting engine to execute code on users' devices. Microsoft has started rolling out today the August 2020 Patch Tuesday security updates. The rest is at the link, and will be updated with more information when they get it. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 08 Jul 20 - 04:39 PM It's working for me. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: DaveRo Date: 08 Jul 20 - 03:18 AM Careful: I think that article is old - from when you had to install Chromiun Edge yourself. One of the comments says it no longer works. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 07 Jul 20 - 03:49 PM Ah, best to do a system restore to before the recent update after first disabling WIndows Update, to stop it putting the latest update back! |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Bonzo3legs Date: 07 Jul 20 - 03:46 PM I was happily using Windows Edge (Legacy) until a Windows update last Saturday which left me with the hideous Edge Chromium, an abomination which cannot be deleted. Now I don't do cannot be deleted!! Fortunately this link describes how to restore old Edge Legacy Browser |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Nick Date: 20 Jun 20 - 03:30 PM You could vow never to finish a game and you would be ad free |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: EBarnacle Date: 20 Jun 20 - 01:51 PM Followup to June 19: Minesweeper now works almost as before the recent improvements. Now, it plays the same but as soon as you win, an ad page jumps up every time. This is differs from the other free games on line, where the ads only come up after several plays. |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Jun 20 - 01:45 PM There was something about that latest Windows update that is messing with programs that have to load and logon to accounts. My Quicken software seems to be dead in the water and Chrome is very slow to open or to offer results and open them. I don't know if this is tied to the reported story from ZDnet: Windows 10 2004 glitch: Microsoft admits bug breaks Storage Spaces, corrupts files |
Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout From: EBarnacle Date: 19 Jun 20 - 10:47 AM Yesterday I complained to the makers of Minesweeper that their add on the bottom of the screen was not removable and interfered with play. Apparently they had had other complaints, as they responded that they were correcting this and things would be back to normal in a few hours. Kinda nice when a corporation takes responsibility and follows up. |
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