Tech: Windows 10-what's happening - updates

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Mar 20 - 11:31 AM

If you replace an HDD with an SSD, they come with, or recommend, cloning software. Clone the original boot drive to the SSD and when you set it up as the boot drive the computer doesn't know the difference software-wise. But the speedy start is wonderful!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 15 Mar 20 - 11:07 AM

It seems that the microsoft account nonsense can be avoided by disconnecting the internet, then windows 10 defaults to a local account in which you can choose whether or not to use a password. What I don't know is at which point during installation can the internet be disconnected because it seeks "updates" at several points during the procedure!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: DaveRo
Date: 15 Mar 20 - 05:19 AM

My wife's Win 10 laptop (10 year old Thinkpad, was originally XP) was slowing down to the point she was constantly cursing it - and by implication me for not fixing it. It was fine when it originally upgraded itself from Win 7.

One of my options was a clean reinstall of Windows 10 from the download provided by Microsoft on the internet. That is definitely possible - I know of people who've done it recently. At the same time I could change to a Solid State Disk (SSD) - about £/$60 for 500GB which would enliven this old machine no end. You can get smaller cheaper ones.

My main concern, if I changed the hardware, was that MS would not register the updated system. So I converted my local login to a MS account because I read that might help.

I did install the SSD. It was very easy, and it goes very much faster - it starts up in 15 seconds. So I recommend that if you have an old laptop. I also bought a SATA/USB3 cable so I could plug the old disk in to recover the data. (You can also clone the old disk if you don't want to reinstall.)

I didn't reinstall Windows 10, I installed Linux - so that's off-topic. But I can go back to Windows if my wife can't live with the new setup by just replacing the disk.

The only thing I miss about Windows 10 is File History backup, which we did to a USB drive. If you don't use that, take a look at it. But don't keep your drive plugged in all the time, as Win 10 wants, to avoid ransomeware getting at it.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 14 Mar 20 - 08:52 PM

This past year I set up a laptop with a fresh Win 8.1 install:
and another laptop factory reset to clean reinstall Win 8.1 from the restore partition.

In both cases win update would no longer work.
Because it required an update it self...

I think I might have explained how that was resolved
some time back in this thread...???

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Mar 20 - 08:37 PM

I tried installing it a couple times. Unsuccessfully, but the "undo" worked. The last time, it forced the upgrade, it didn't work, and couldn't undo the attempt. That computer is now dead. I had this Mac, and so that's what I'm using now.

I think I'm over Windows.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 14 Mar 20 - 08:06 PM

So how long has win 8.1 got left, before it's discontinued...???

Microsoft has already made a clean fresh install from ISO,
or PC factory restore drive,
near impossible,
unless we resort to 'expert' workarounds...

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Joe G
Date: 14 Mar 20 - 07:43 PM

Yes I've had a couple of updates - not noticed anything of concern but we will see!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 20 - 07:18 PM

You can skip that early in the setup process, but you have to be watching for it.

My computer has run several more updates this week, requiring a restart and then setup. My solitaire game is still in place, but it has been busy adjusting something.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Mar 20 - 12:16 PM

I upgraded a work PC from Windows 7 pro to Windows 10 pro a couple of days ago. Everything went fine except that now Excel demands a Microsoft Account login, which nobody knows. Over to my boss's IT Tech!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Nick
Date: 11 Mar 20 - 02:22 PM

Info here - Windows Update 10 March 2020

Personally my machines are on 1909. But as per further up the thread if anything grim happens I will reinstate my latest clone (he said smugly). Once the latest update turns out to be ok I'll update my clone.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Mar 20 - 01:47 PM

I don't know what it was, but was comprehensive enough that it crawled the computer and removed the stuff it didn't like.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Mar 20 - 11:16 AM

Is this an upgrade to ver1909 or just an update?

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Mar 20 - 09:24 PM

Microsoft pushed out a big update today and I had to turn the computer on and off a couple of times to finish the updates. And the rat bastards removed my old Windows 7 Microsoft games that were I think loadable into Windows 8, but after that they don't give it to you. I have, however, a version a fellow saved from Win 7 and I went into the old computer and found the files and reinstalled it. Anyone looking for those old programs (much better than the earliest games, the last good version before they added advertisements and make you pay to play) let me know and I can share it via a Box or Dropbox folder. Downloaded several years ago from Winaero.com.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 10:46 AM

Power supplies are as easy a thing to replace as I can think of. Buy a new one the same size for that machine, unscrew the old one and screw in the new one. When my kids were headed off to college they each got a new computer and I had them set each up and do any installation and modifications themselves before we took them to school (and truth be told, my son built his from scratch the night before we left, so I didn't have much to do with that at all). My daughter's power supply died a year or two into ownership and she announced later that she replaced the power supply herself, but had to cut the case a little to make it fit. I couldn't be more proud of her ingenuity (and the new supply had a much quieter fan, so it was win/win.)

My battery backup (UPS) has failed it's self-test and I'm realizing it is well past the time when the batteries need swapping out. I have a set that arrived late last week and have to make time and clear the space to unplug everything from the old one, take off the side of the case, replace the two batteries and let it charge for about 8 hours before re-plugging everything. The space to do the work is the complicated part, I have a lot of stuff set up in a small area.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Dec 19 - 06:27 AM

The power supply in my wife's pc failed yesterday, apparently they just do!!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Dec 19 - 09:40 PM

When I put the SSD in my old computer (Win10) and rearranged the drives I ended up with the drive order out of place as far as what the BIOS looks for. I typically turn it on, it doesn't boot up, I turn it off with the switch, and turn it on right away and it boots, because it remembers now where the SSD is. I've tried rearranging and that didn't work. There is a lot of stuff crammed into that machine so reaching the SATA plugs on the motherboard is difficult.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: EBarnacle
Date: 27 Dec 19 - 04:11 PM

I have been trying to install 10 on several machines that are resisting my entrance. Two of them [both W 10] are not letting me get past the passwords to do the install. Another is a version of W 8 on one of Lady Hillary's tablet.
The 10 machines are not allowing me to change the boot order, I may have to find a way to change the BIOS.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Dec 19 - 03:27 PM

There seems to be something that Microsoft is pushing out (to do with release 1909) but they haven't activated the contents of that download. I updated my laptop that isn't used much and the message to see what was updated shows it is still running 1903 but 1090 downloaded. One failed to install - not sure if that's the one waiting for permission to install, or something else.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 19 Dec 19 - 06:05 PM

Latest windows 10 is ver1909.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Dec 19 - 12:13 PM

Jeri, on my old computer it wasn't very good at updates, something was blocking it even when I turned off Malwarebytes, my security stuff, etc.. An option (if you have copies of all of your software) is to reinstall the computer and have a fresh version of the old version, then upgrade. But you need to backup your data and put it back when you re-install your software. That's one way to kill a weekend.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: GUEST,jag
Date: 19 Dec 19 - 12:01 PM

I only need a little, in fact 90% of the time I get by with Photoshop 7 on the 'main' computer. I should never have accepted the very good deal to consolidate licenses to the full CS3 suite as I then couldn't just upgrade Photoshop.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Dec 19 - 10:36 AM

I have CS5 on the older computer and (knock wood!) it seems to be fine. I have a version of CS 3 around here, but it does so little that I wouldn't bother installing it, and as you say, there are issues. Not a huge surprise. The company has changed a lot and merged with others over the years. (Dreamweaver, for one.)

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: GUEST,jag
Date: 19 Dec 19 - 10:26 AM

A side issue (that SRS may already know about) is that the Adobe License Management system of some older versions doesn't get on with that of something in the later products. Under Windows 7 I kept having to re-install CS3 and in the end put it on a different computer with none of the newer stuff. Am about to find out if that persists with Windows 10.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 09:24 PM

I got the message that the version of Windows 10 I have will soon not be supported, and I should install the current version. I've tried 4 times (at a couple hours per pop), and I have something that won't let it update, so, I dunno.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 09:00 PM

Today from ZDnet: So you want to keep running Windows 7? Good luck with that, small businesses

The end of Windows 7 support is weeks away. Microsoft says small businesses can pay for extended security updates just like their enterprise cousins. But my experience says they don't really want your money.

Support for Windows 7 ends in just a few weeks. After Jan. 14, 2020, Microsoft will no longer provide free security updates and bug fixes for the venerable operating system to the general public.

Those updates will be available, however, to Microsoft customers who are willing to pay for the privilege. The Windows 7 Extended Security Update (ESU) program runs for an additional three years, through January 2023, and it's been officially available since Dec. 2, 2019.

When Microsoft first announced the Windows 7 ESU program, in September 2018, the company said these updates would be available to its most valuable customers: Giant corporations and government agencies with volume licensing subscriptions and medium-sized businesses and educational institutions with Windows 10 Enterprise or Education subscriptions.

Then, in October 2019, Microsoft extended the program to businesses of all sizes. If you run a small business (even a sole proprietorship) and you want to keep using Windows 7, that should be good news. But as I learned this week, Microsoft doesn't seem particularly interested in taking your money if your business is too small.

The rest can be read by following the link above.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 06:43 PM

Not likely I'd ever try that Bonzo - that's a way to kill a computer faster than the time it takes to flip the switch.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 04:15 PM

Something useful about Windows 10, if the install gets stuck just switch PC off and back on again and the install will resume from where it left off!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Nick
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 12:01 PM

Always best to work round a problem than to sort it out hahaha. I realised this was a bit of a game ("you come up with a solution and I'll tell you why it won't work") and an exercise in pointlessness

I did realise you didn't have the software. Having said that, it also wouldn't have been hard to find it but that's by the way. I'm sure I'm not alone in having 5 or 6 Adobe suites (from 4.0 through 6.0 through CS2 and CS3 to CS6) of most of the products that are in common use and might even have been of help.

Good fun and I learned something which is great. And if I ever have a hard disk fail again I will be back up and running in no time. Happy xmas.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 11:33 AM

I don't have the Adobe software for the newest version to load it on a second machine, or I'd have done that. I'll look into the cloning process - I had a couple of SATA enclosures (the cable plugged into the mother board, not a USB port). I'll look into that, it could free up the old computer to be reinstalled, etc. Thanks!

Meanwhile, the transfer cable cost $4.24 and was plugged in to both computers in under a minute. It'll do the job for now!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Nick
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 10:00 AM

And I used the machine all the way through the time it was doing the cloned copy (internet and local stuff) so no need to stop anything you want to do.

It was the first time I have ever tried to clone a machine. If I had known what I found out this morning I would have had a much better experience (and lost less stuff) when my hard drive died.

Off to my google calendar now to schedule in future clones which I can probably automate...

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Nick
Date: 18 Dec 19 - 09:54 AM

Here is a possible solution. I have tested it and it works. It would take less than three hours if you have the necessary things. If not it might cost you somewhere between £/$15-£/$30 depending how big your 'old' hard drive is. It would also give you considerable freedom to change things in the future.

In a nutshell. CLONE THE OLD MACHINE. DEAD easy. I don't think I have ever done a software project that was more straightforward and had no issues (apart from one minor Adobe one that didn't stop the products opening and working)

As an aside it has completely changed the way that I will back up my system in the future. Once a month I will do what I did this morning...

What you need is -

1 A downloaded free version of Macrium Reflect free
2 An empty hard drive that you are prepared to format. I have a 500gb old laptop drive that I have in a 2.5" SATA External case that can connect to the computer via USB

That's it. A couple of options (*) that may be different in your system

1 Plug in external hard drive (*or attach a blank second drive into the machine. Most machines have the option to add more than one drive)
2 Download and copy the Macrium software to the machine that you want to clone (* this maybe a problem for you. There is some info here that might work https://forum.macrium.com/26618/How-do-you-install-reflect-server-and-workstation-ver-7-without-internet)
3 Run the Macrium software
4 Choose what you want to clone. My new 1tb hard drive is partitioned into two 500gb drives and the D: drive has nothing on it so no point in copying it
5 Leave it to copy. My 500gb drive (about 160gb used as I have reinstalled stuff from scratch) took 1hr 40mins to copy to the USB external drive

Now the exciting bit, testing it...

The cloned drive will not boot from USB (Windows doesn't allow it) so what I needed to do was to take the SATA drive out of its enclosure. I then disconnected the power and data connections from one of my machine's 'normal' hard drive of the computer and instead attached the 2.5" SATA drive that contained the cloned information.

And turned the machine on. It took a bit of time to boot up.

So what have I got?

1 All the files are on the machine
2 Norton anti virus is running and up to date
3 The internet connection just worked with no configuration or anything needed
4 All drives seen fine
5 Photoshop opens happily
6 Reaper opens happily and all plug ins are in place and working
7 Chrome works with all settings
8 Everything I tried works. The one thing it asked me to repair was Adobe Creative Cloud. But it didn't stop either Photoshop or Lightroom working
9 ASIO drivers are installed and working and Reaper played back through soundcard with no configuration
10 Office works. Dropbox and OneDrive work. Mega (where I store some things) all work. You name it, it works.
11 All passwords etc worked

12 Disconnected cloned drive and put it away safely... and my intention is to overwrite it at intervals in the future if I install various new programs

Total time from start to finish (including typing this!) about 3 hours.

You would be free to run your 'new' cloned machine for as long as you want to be sure that it is 100% ok. You could then even format the old drive and use it again - if it's not knackered - but with no worry of losing your software.

As an aside your Adobe software licence allows for installation on TWO machines as long as they are not used at the same time.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Dec 19 - 08:46 PM

It might help if I spell out the problem. The old computer was giving me the error message Diagnostics Policy Service is not running." It happened once, I used my laptop to search on that term, and found how to set things to have it working again. A few months later, it happened again, and I found I had to do something a little different, but again in worked. The last time it offered up this Windows error message there was no way to reset it. I could have simply reinstalled the computer, but then I would lose all of the software, much of it can only be installed once (though I could beg the company, telling them it is the same computer, to get a new service key), but others I installed when I was part of a group that had company access to the software. As a retiree I can continue to use it but I can't get a new copy of it. That computer is robust, a quad core HP, but it's nine years old. So I bought a new one, installed some software from work that I can still use and other things I had older versions I already paid for. The Adobe software is the real gem in the old machine, it's the last version that was on disk that I own outright, from before they went completely to the Cloud and monthly rental of the software.

So I'm trying to streamline the work between the two, not keep loading it onto thumb drives to go back and forth. The old one, in this state, will never communicate with any network unless there is a physical connection. I can't take the hard drive out of the old machine because the software understands that it is in that computer and won't work in the new one. There are theoretical ways to trick the software into thinking it's in the same computer, but that's a lot of jumping through hoops and isn't guaranteed except to possibly mess up everything. $1600 for the new computer means I have an up-to-date system and it doesn't have the same glitches the old one did (the Windows fire wall and real-time protection on Malwarebytes could never be set to run. I had to use Zone Alarm or something like that as my firewall.)

The cable has one end that is the "drive" and the other end is the standard USB. If I'm willing to plug and unplug this cable between the two computers, I'll do it where it's easiest to reach, on the new computer (leaving the other end in the old computer). So which end should I use for plugging and unplugging, the fat drive end or the USB end - or does it matter since it's all basically one drive device?

My plan is to have a distinct upper-level folder (desktop, probably, or even a new Library) landing pad in each computer that I can easily navigate to where I can put the files I want to move back and forth, so I'm not crawling through one or the other beyond that folder.

Fussing about computers every so often is an exercise that means I do research and try new things. I suppose it's good for me. :-)

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Dec 19 - 07:25 PM

SRS, depending on how long the noncommunicative computer will be left intact, you have a couple of options.
You can take the hard drive from that one and put it into an external hard drive case to be used as an auxiliary for the other computer.
You can transfer the data via thumb drive.
If you have a Windows 7 key for the one that's not happy, you can put another hard drive in that machine and use the Win 7 key with a freshly downloaded version of Win 10. That may also fix the communication problem [No guarantee, tho.]

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Nick
Date: 17 Dec 19 - 07:24 PM

I had my old computer's hard drive fail so bought a new one. But subsequently bought a new hard drive for the failed machine so now have two windows 10 machines on my desk next to me. I have different stuff on both. I have three external drives (500Mb, 2tb, 200gb). One machine is on the very latest win 10 and one on the previous version.

I have a cheap and cheerful network switch (buy one for about £10 that would work plus a couple of cables) and just have a little network of the two computers and share whatever resources I want between the two. In the process they both have internet access of course. The 2tb drive is attached to the new machine but shared so that the 'old' machine (with the new drive) can access anything on it when I bother to turn it on. I also use the 'old' machine to back up some of the stuff from the new machine.

On the new machine I also have a Windows 7 Virtual Machine set up which I use as a little safety area in case there are any files I have any concerns with. I may also set up a secondary virtual machine with XP on as I have one or two legacy programs that I might want access to (a VERY old Adobe Guitar Tracks for example)

I would have thought that creating a very simple network would be an easy way to go and get rid of many of your frustrations. I can shift anything round as I choose easily and it's easy to share any resources I need. The new machine doesn't have a CD/DVD drive so I just share the one off the other machine if I need it.

I also may go back to using Teamviewer again between the machines and ipad as well so that I can access any of the machines from anywhere I might be. One of the attractions of Teamviewer is that I could run both machines from the one easily.

The monitor I have will take HDMi and VGA input so I have both computers attached to the monitor and can change the input with two presses on the front and easily switch between machines so the Teamviewer thing is not worth doing apart from the ability to remotely access the machines from anywhere I have an internet connection.

I may have misunderstood your problem!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Dec 19 - 06:35 PM

A related topic, in that if someone is familiar enough with Win 10 and updating or moving files, they might have an answer to this question:

I am using two computers with Win 10; one doesn't connect to the Internet any more but it has some of my more expensive newer versions of software (Adobe stuff is expensive). I have an older version of Adobe in the new computer (it was on a disk and wasn't tied to the other computer so I could install it.) I still want to use the software on the old computer, but this back and forth with thumb or other drives gets old.

I picked up a USB transfer cable (Radio Shack is still in business, mostly online, and has some helpful stuff in clearance and sales) and it has a fat plug on one end so it's actually seen by the computers as a drive. The embedded software is called GO!Bridge, if anyone is curious.

To disconnect it says to click out of the folder with the corner X, and use the "Safely remove hardware" feature in either computer to remove the cable. Standard remove a drive stuff.

If I simply leave the thing plugged into the old computer and new computer, will there be any harm done? Neither computer is going to view this as a boot drive, it'll be more like a DVD drive, way down the list of things to look at for startup. Or perhaps I should disconnect it from the new computer (with the approved methods above) and leave it on the old one and plug it in when I need it?

It would be nice to have the new faster Adobe software on the new computer, but I don't have that original installation disk (it's complicated - legal, but complicated) so I go back and forth between the two. To use the current CC version of Adobe I can only get it as a download and pay a monthly fee; even at academic rates it's still a financial hit. So I'll do this for the time being.

Meanwhile, a whole new version of Windows 10 was rolled out earlier this year; mine updated automatically, it wasn't exactly a new install, but it's something people should update if for some reason they haven't already. I seem to recall that the earlier version isn't going to be supported for long.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Oct 19 - 04:29 PM

I have solved the administrator user account name problem - the trick is to change from a Microsoft administrator account to a Local administrator account, then the change name option appears!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Sep 19 - 08:33 PM

I knew about that problem with the chips and this summer made a point of buying a new higher end chipset with the computer. Meaning there will be something else that comes along to exploit this newer system.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: DaveRo
Date: 29 Sep 19 - 04:31 PM

Yes, Intel at least has modified their newer processors: link. But new variants are being discovered all the time, and are being patched in operating systems: link.

The problem with the software mitigations is that they can reduce performance, which matters a lot for big datacentres. 'Speculative execution' - the 'spec' in 'spectre' - was designed to run programs faster, and the fixes, especially the early ones, tended to negate that.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: robomatic
Date: 29 Sep 19 - 03:23 PM

This is off-topic but related: About two years ago it was revealed that just about all Intel/PC and quite a few non-Intel/PC CPUs were subject to malware due to hardware 'flaws'. They were called "Meltdown" and "Spectre". These were addressed by software updates but I'm curious as to whether the hardware 'original sin' has been addressed in more modern CPUS. Anyone know ? or know someone who knows?

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Sep 19 - 10:23 AM

They set it up in such a way hoping you'll sync everything to their cloud services. It takes clicking past their Microsoft stuff and setting up on the local device.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Sep 19 - 09:05 AM

Having had a "cyclic redundancy check" error a few times, I bought an ex Dell PC hard drive which shipped with Windows 10 Pro mostly installed. Somehow I managed to sign up to a Microsoft account and ended up with an administrator user account with the my email used as its account name. Worse was that the log in password was set as my email password. I don't want to be messing around with a log in password and the only way I could find to disable this was to cancel the Microsoft account first!!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: EBarnacle
Date: 19 Sep 19 - 07:38 PM

Two and 1/2 hours is better than the average time I've achieved.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Sep 19 - 03:58 PM

MY PC took about two and a half hours to instal the WIN10 update today.
Then it took a while to recognise my mobile phone when I plugged it in to download pic's.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Sep 19 - 02:54 PM

I'll take a look - good suggestion!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: DaveRo
Date: 18 Sep 19 - 12:53 PM

Stilly River Sage wrote: ... twice in the last week I've come in after the computer was supposed to sleep and when I jostle the mouse ... the main [monitor] has a blue screen with a message and a QR code to link to the topic. The message beside the code says Stop Code: Faulty Hardware Corrupted Page.

I'd guess that's a fault in the 'resume from hibernated' (S4) state. To test that you could change the power settings to only sleep (S3) for a week or two and see if it still happens.

I found some support threads about similar problems appearing with release 1903 on some makes of computer.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Sep 19 - 11:37 AM

I've typically had it set to download and tell me when installing updates so I can say yes or no myself. On this new machine I think the default is to automatically load and install, and I'll have to go set my preferences.

On another note, this note about ransomware is something to take note of. I don't see a thread dedicated to these threats (in my traced threads, at any rate). Maybe it's time for one of those.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 17 Sep 19 - 05:03 PM

Had a frustrating problem with Windows 10 Defender over the weekend - it switched itself off and I could not enable it despite carrying out all of the suggested fixes. Eventually last night I did a check for windows updates and found that there was an update for Defender pending, but would not install. After power-up this evening I tried windows update again, this time it installed together with another Defender update and is now enabled itself again!

I had backed up all of my data intending to do a Windows 10 repair!

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Sep 19 - 04:52 PM

It isn't the monitor software that is the problem, the monitor is simply delivering the message.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: EBarnacle
Date: 15 Sep 19 - 10:47 PM

Try deleting and reinstalling the software for the second monitor. I don't know how you can do this.

Subject: RE: Tech: Windows 10-what's happening with rollout
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Sep 19 - 10:36 PM

I have two monitors, and twice in the last week I've come in after the computer was supposed to sleep and when I jostle the mouse one monitor is normal and the main one has a blue screen with a message and a QR code to link to the topic. The message beside the code says Stop Code: Faulty Hardware Corrupted Page.

It seems to need to go through and update all of my hardware drivers. I have a lot of old hardware hooked up, but I have a new keyboard and it seems to be a casualty of this shutdown, I have to unplug then replug the USB cable to get it going again. I always keep a spare keyboard handy anyway (this is a specialized typist's keyboard, not the usual cheapie that comes with the computer).