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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: maeve Date: 11 Nov 18 - 05:46 AM I s'pose I should mention Laurel does not have access to her FB account. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: maeve Date: 11 Nov 18 - 04:44 AM Laurel (open mike), along with her partner, horses and dog are safe. She lost her house again. In her words, "I am a survivor, not a victim." Familiar words. She says hello to Joe Offer and others who've been concerned. It is too soon to know how friends can help. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Nov 18 - 11:35 PM Animals affected by the fires. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Senoufou Date: 10 Nov 18 - 04:38 PM Saw the latest bulletin on the News this evening, 200,000 evacuated and 11 deaths. Fervent hopes that any Mudcatters in the region are safe and that their property isn't under threat. Eliza |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Tattie Bogle Date: 10 Nov 18 - 12:58 PM Keep safe, Joe and Laurel. Thinking of you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Nov 18 - 11:32 AM Thousand Oaks has had a dreadful one-two punch this week. The shootings and now the fires. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Donuel Date: 10 Nov 18 - 08:33 AM These are the most destructive fires in California history and are as serious as it gets. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Nov 18 - 07:40 PM We're about a hundred miles south of the Northern California fire in Paradise. Laurel (open mike) is very near it, so I'm concerned about her. The skies were clear and blue this morning. About 3 PM, I saw very dark sky to the northwest, and then it became overcast. I think this is all smoke, although I can't smell it. My area is just as vulnerable as Paradise. Sometimes I wonder how long we will be able to escape serious fire. There was a bad fire half a mile from us a couple years ago. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Nov 18 - 03:48 AM Laurel, what's your situation? Please let us know. It sounds very serious. Joe |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: leeneia Date: 08 Sep 18 - 11:38 AM Joe, are you making preparations for evacuation? Beloved instruments loaded in the car, jewelry somewhere safe, medicines and cash ready for evacuation, pets rounded up? Insurance premiums paid? Cars gassed up? The DH says: a couple of gallons of water in the car. The fire authority has a list of things they want you to do. Google it if you haven't already. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Donuel Date: 07 Sep 18 - 12:28 PM Even small fires can change history like Alexandria |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Stilly River Sage Date: 05 Sep 18 - 10:31 PM When I spoke to my son two weeks ago in Seattle he described how awful the air was and how difficult it is to wear the face mask general filter over a beard. He was thinking about trying to get one of the larger heavier silicon or rubber masks, but I think things cleared up before he went so far. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: leeneia Date: 05 Sep 18 - 09:50 PM I sure hope the fires bypass your home and your town. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: ChanteyLass Date: 04 Sep 18 - 11:01 PM Oh, no! I can't imagine breathing that air. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Sep 18 - 07:45 PM Well, we had a few days of cooler temperatures and clear skies. But today, we're back to fire season. From a distance, it looks like the two fires are right on top of us, but they's actually 25 miles to the east and south. Tanker and spotter planes have been flying over the house all afternoon, and the air is getting smoky again. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: leeneia Date: 15 Aug 18 - 09:04 PM You have my sympathy, Joe. I hope your neighborhood escapes any fires. Are you prepared to make a dash for it? Important papers by the door, cars gassed up? Water in the trunk? (The water is the DH's suggestion.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 12 Aug 18 - 11:53 PM Gee, I got a call from a friend just now who said there's a fire burning half a mile from me. I'm surprised that I haven't heard a thing. It covers only 1.5 acres, but there were 60 personnel working the fire. It's 80% contained, so we're pretty safe. There were planes dumping water and retardant, but I didn't hear planes or sirens at all. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Donuel Date: 08 Aug 18 - 08:02 AM I heard a report that all the combined California fires now ranks as the largest recorded California fire of all time. JUNE 2018 WAS THE ALL TIME HIGHEST GLOBAL TEMPERATURE |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Aug 18 - 02:59 AM I don't know why, but they say higher temp weather does have an effect and makes fires worse. Joe |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Aug 18 - 09:24 PM Do they have a heat threshold as such that working in the higher temperatures makes them burn? Or just a string of bad luck? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Rapparee Date: 06 Aug 18 - 09:12 PM So far around here it's only been land that's burned, a couple hundred thousand acres. One just south of town was threatening the veterans' home but the firefighters got it in time. Stay tuned -- this week is supposed to reach 100+F and like the last month or more, no rain forecast. There has been "dry thunderstorms" and some of the fires were caused by lightning. A few have, unfortunately, been caused by humans. The most recent, 2,000 acres or so, was caused when a combine caught fire in a field; it was the third fire caused by a combine catching fire (if you don't know, a combine. is a harvesting machine). Considering how much they cost the farmers/ranchers are out a LOT of money. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Aug 18 - 09:56 PM This Sacramento Bee video will give you an idea of the impact of the fire. It wiped out the little town of Keswick, upriver from the City of Redding. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Jack Campin Date: 01 Aug 18 - 01:24 PM Portugal next? http://www.severe-weather.eu/mcd/extreme-fire-danger-during-the-intense-heat-wave-across-spain-and-portugal-this-week/ http://wildfiretoday.com/tag/portugal/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: keberoxu Date: 01 Aug 18 - 11:38 AM I had a dear friend whose Durango home was in trouble six weeks ago. Guess the Colorado folks are mostly out of danger now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Aug 18 - 03:05 AM Gee, a fire burned 2-3 acres at the end of my road today, and I didn't know about it. If the sky had been clear, it would have been easy to see. I'm glad the firefighters put it out. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: open mike Date: 31 Jul 18 - 12:08 PM There are 17 fires burning in CA, the largest one, the Carr fire is over 100,000 acres. It has destroyed over eight hundred homes, and caused 6 fatalities. Two fires to the west of here are burning together and so the "River" fire and the "Ranch" fire are covering several counties. Firefighters from Australia an dNew Zealand are coming to help...it is their "off" season and we appreciate their assistance~! Oh, yes, are we to believe there is no such thing as global warming/?! There are fires in Greece, Sweden, and near the Arctic Circle.....this is unheard of! We have had tripel digit temperatures for weeks.... 10 years ago a 60,000 acre fire destroyed my home and over 200 others in the area. I have re-built, but many are still struggling to regain their footing. The current situations bring back memories and trigger PTSD in many fire survivors. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Senoufou Date: 31 Jul 18 - 06:03 AM The air pollution must be terrible Joe. We had something similar (on a much smaller scale) in UK on the Yorkshire Moors. The peat burned for ages, and the smoke plume stretched right across to Manchester. How appalling to have to contend with looting as well as the aftermath of the fires wysiwyg. How could people be so wicked?!! This has been a very strange summer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Jul 18 - 05:02 AM There was no sun at all here on Sunday - the smoke was just too thick, even though the fires are 150 miles away. A bit of sun on Monday, but still very smoky. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Jul 18 - 11:18 AM Son and family report that their home was spared but badly vandalized, and local police even watered their critters! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Senoufou Date: 30 Jul 18 - 02:31 AM My heart goes out to those caught up in these terrifying events. The devastation of enormous tracts of land looked appalling on the TV News. I'm so sorry for anyone on Mudcat who has family or friends in the thick of it. Even after the fires are extinguished (which may take weeks or even months) the aftermath, loss of life, home, farm stock, livelihood etc will reverberate down the years. Jim is quite right - global warming MUST be addressed by all nations, or we'll all have to suffer the consequences of irresponsibility, greed and ignorance. If no steps are taken, one could say our little blue planet is terminally ill. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Rapparee Date: 29 Jul 18 - 08:51 PM The Grassy Ridge Fire has burned over 115,000 acres (46,538.85 hectares). Fortunately for me it's 80+ miles northwest, unfortunately last night the town of Dubois was ordered evacuated (now that order has been lifted). We have relatives in Redding and Shasta area. One town, French Gulch, was where my wife's uncle met his wife and where they lived in a wall tent for the first two years of their marriage. Other relatives live in Hayfork. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Jul 18 - 10:28 AM Last night I listened to a horrifying story on NPR of a man who survived one of the fires that hit his coastal fishing village in Greece. It could just as easily happen here. If you've ever read Young Men and Fire you may remember the daring escape a group of fire fighters enacted in the mountains of Montana (or thereabouts). They were racing uphill ahead of a fire and the leader stopped, lit a fire ahead of them, and as it burned up the mountain the men stepped into the burned path and walked behind their fire. When the wild fire reached that point, the fuel was already gone and they survived. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: wysiwyg Date: 29 Jul 18 - 09:32 AM Our son, DIL, and their baby are in a shelter near the Redding fire, which has probably destroyed the house and farmette they rent, and their animals. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Jeri Date: 29 Jul 18 - 09:26 AM The west appears to be burning. Map of fires (Warning: they want you to buy them a coffee.) We're in this cycle in the eastern US of hot/humid, torrential thunderstorms, a nice day, repeat. The torrents are rather new, but I'll take them over the world burning down any day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Jack Campin Date: 29 Jul 18 - 09:12 AM Sofia Labropoulou on FB has been posting some horrifying stuff about the fires in Greece. Looks like the property developers see this kind of catastrophe as a golden opportunity, and bugger all the people killed, bereaved, crippled or dispossessed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Jim Carroll Date: 29 Jul 18 - 03:06 AM I read yesterday that the present weather changes that are causing these fires are due to a weakening ot tide movements, the gulf stream being the one that is affecting us in Ireland These changes have been brought about by the overhead temperature changes caused by Global warming and are set to continue for another couple of years. HERE It hasn't helped that we've used up all the plastic that could have been made into containers to put the fires out to kill off our OCEAN WILDLIFE Nice to know we've left our kids something worthwhile to keep them from getting bored Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Jul 18 - 02:21 AM I don't know of any California Mudcatters near the fires. We've had a lot of smoke and a few little fires, but nothing to cause any worry. The big fires are 150-200 miles from me, 100 miles from Laurel. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Jul 18 - 10:24 PM Me, too! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: ChanteyLass Date: 28 Jul 18 - 10:22 PM I'm with you, Jim! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Jim Carroll Date: 28 Jul 18 - 02:06 AM I haven't been following this but I wonder has anybody around to wondering what is happening to our planet In our part of the world on the West coast of Ireland our weather has changed radically over the last five or six years Storms high wings and hurricanes have become so regular they have been given names Last winter we saw snow that immobilised the area for several days - unheard of in my experience Farmers here are now using winter feed to keep their stock alive and wondering what they are going to feed them on next winter Not all bad news - in places the weather changes have exposed a number of Bronze-Age archeological sites !! I hate bringing politics into this but it's about time somebody had a word in the nice Mr Trump's ear and get his boys back around the Climate Change table !! Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Jul 18 - 12:23 AM It is that time of year again, with a vengeance. Joe, are you near any of this? Laurel? Jeni? Others? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Sep 15 - 03:38 AM Peter Rowan has a great "Rainmaker" song: The clouds today made me think rain was coming, but they cleared in time for us to see the eclipse. Mixed blessing. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Ebbie Date: 28 Sep 15 - 02:57 AM Joe's remark about hoping for rain reminded me of an exchange I overheard on the bus one day some years ago. There was a 30ish woman complaining to a young tourist couple about the weather in Juneau, Alaska. As soon as her husband's Coast Guard deployment is up, they're out of here, she said. There are no decent shops and it's expensive and it never is warm and it rains all the time, she said. She paused. Where are you from, she asked. San Diego. Ah, you have sun! Very quietly, the young man responded, But we have no water. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 27 Sep 15 - 08:31 PM you certainly are living in interesting times, Joe Is useful rain included in the local long range forecasts? sandra |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Sep 15 - 04:14 AM Gee, there's a new fire 2 freeway exits from me, and I didn't even know about it. Looks like they got it under control, and it burned only 6 acres. Whew! This page shows a video of what we go through every summer. For the most part, it's kinda interesting. But when it gets too close to home, it's worrisome. I imagine our fire season won't be over for at least another month this year, maybe even into November. I sure hope we get rain this winter. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Joe Offer Date: 17 Sep 15 - 12:58 AM No significant spread of the California fires in the last 24 hours. There was precipitation over the two biggest fires on Tuesday, and the weather has been almost cold. This is the first day in almost a week that we've had clear skies, with no sign of smoke. So far, so good. The pictures in the newspapers show lots of devastation in places I thought would never burn. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Rapparee Date: 16 Sep 15 - 11:07 PM Rained again today! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Ebbie Date: 16 Sep 15 - 03:38 AM Right. The deluge they underwent today has led to bad flooding. A number of people have died. And as they said on the news tonight, since central and southern California get the bulk of their water from the mountains up north, the deluge has not abated their drought. As of today, Alaska has 93 - ninety-three! - wildfires burning. Most of them, however, are not in populated areas. And as has been noted above, those fires should be cleaning out the underbrush. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Rapparee Date: 15 Sep 15 - 12:31 PM I dunno. It's raining here and I hope everywhere else in the West. But without something to retard the flow of water it could all come down in a rush, especially since the ground is baked hard. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcatters near fires out west From: Bill D Date: 15 Sep 15 - 12:15 PM They said El Nino would bring some rain...probably too much.. to California. I think people would take it over this.... |
