Subject: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Oct 15 - 09:04 AM I know the technical side of this has been discussed before but the message at the end of any thread on Mudcat on my Firefox browser always reads - "The requested URL could not be" Now, being of a philosophical bent (bent what I am not saying) I began to wonder how the browser KNOWS that this URL cannot be :-) What could it be asking for? Anyone any suggestions for things that cannot be? Have fun! |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Raggytash Date: 13 Oct 15 - 09:11 AM I always get DNS Error. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 13 Oct 15 - 09:13 AM Surely it's a declaration of its non existence. I was going to say there are some things that could not be, but then was brought up short by the self-contradiction in that statement. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Oct 15 - 09:39 AM a declaration of its non existence. I like that one! I don't think therefore I am not? :D |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Oct 15 - 09:42 AM Maybe we could start a school of non-existentialism? Things that prove they cannot exist just by being there. No one could ever say it has been tried before, because, if it has, it proves it hasn't. Mind you, does that then prove that this post does not exi... |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Rapparee Date: 13 Oct 15 - 09:44 AM I got one once that said, "I'll be damned! It ain't here!" And another that said, "It's not here so just go away. Go away!" But how can the computer know that the URL you are looking for is nonexistent if it in fact doesn't exist? Existence presupposes a time line running into the present and possibly the future. Could the URL indicate something that only nanoseconds ago existed and has now vanished? Or a site that will exist in the future but does not now exist? Inquiring minds don't really want to know. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Oct 15 - 09:50 AM Hey, Now we are rolling! I wonder if the phrase "could not be" is significant? It is not "will not be" or "has not been" after all. You are on to something there, Rap. Maybe folk music could not be, although it has been and may be once again. If time is not linear after all could the URL (and folk music) exist and not exist at the same time? Where is the Doctor when you need him... |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Bill D Date: 13 Oct 15 - 09:58 AM "Well, I looked from the porch to the top of the wall, Nothin' was there, nothin' at all. Nothin' at all in any degree, A predominance of vacancy" There's a man in this town, goin' around, Spreadin' nothin' all over the ground. Heard some passin' people say, "All that nothin' gets in the way.. There oughta be a law. I went downtown, some nothin' to buy.. Pile in the window, 40 feet high. The man in the store, he smile an' say.. 'We got plenty o' nothin' today. All vacuum packed.... Well, this song was written with nothin' in mind Nothin' at all of any kind. Nothin' at all in any respect.. We was aided by a poverty of intellect...... |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Jack Campin Date: 13 Oct 15 - 10:11 AM Which contrasts with things that might be. Science has a word for them: Beables Mudcat has expanded its ontology beyond quantum physics to contemplate the Unbeable as well. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: DMcG Date: 13 Oct 15 - 10:38 AM Surely if it could not be then any attempt to create it will fail. Or the whole universe will collapse. One or the other. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Bill D Date: 13 Oct 15 - 10:38 AM "Ontology recapitulates doxology" or lexicography.... or something else.... or nothing at all. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Bill D Date: 13 Oct 15 - 11:49 AM "Everything must be somewhere...." A.N. Whitehead, Process and Reality page 87 |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Oct 15 - 12:04 PM Surely everything must be somewhere or someWHEN? |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 13 Oct 15 - 04:56 PM The other day upon the stair I met a man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today. I wish that he would go away. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Oct 15 - 05:05 PM ...and it's derivative We passed upon the stair, we spoke of was and when Although I wasn't there, he said I was his friend Which came as some surprise I spoke into his eyes I thought you died alone, a long long time ago It's all deep and meaningful to someone... |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 13 Oct 15 - 05:19 PM Funnily enough, the original message I mention is on my works laptop. On my home desktop it is a far more mundane "Server not found". Unless, of course, that has a hidden meaning. Conspiracy theory anyone? :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: GUEST Date: 13 Oct 15 - 05:34 PM The really boring answer is that it's an advert with a link that is not working. Just now its a link to somwhere in amazon.com. View the page source in your browser, find the text of the last post and then look down a little. Presumably different browsers or network routes report it in different words. Or carry on with a witty conversation. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Rapparee Date: 13 Oct 15 - 06:47 PM If the server cannot be found does the server actually exist? If someone is lost we believe they exist, but not where we are or they should be (if those are the same). If a server cannot be found that must mean that it is not anywhere, but we have, so to speak, called its name, and by naming it called it, on some plane, into existence. We have, by naming it, even it is not found, created and changed the universe-we-know and left the server-not-found universe of the past. These thoughts question our own existence, for if we become lost -- in thought or in the woods -- do we continue to exist? Are we and everything else shadows on the wall of Plato's cave, and if we name shadow puppets to they only then begin to exist? Or do they exist even though we do not or cannot name them? |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 13 Oct 15 - 07:51 PM To say "The requested URL could not be," isn't the same as saying it does not be. "Could" implies possibility, not definitive factuality. "It could rain today," Doesn't mean that it will or won't rain, only that there is a possibility. So, saying that the URL could not be implies a possibility, no matter how slight, that it just might be after all. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Rapparee Date: 13 Oct 15 - 10:50 PM Of course, there is The Wayback Machine. |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Ross Campbell Date: 14 Oct 15 - 07:58 AM "Could-not be" or "could not-be" - that is the question - or is it not? |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Mr Red Date: 15 Oct 15 - 03:56 AM I'm not reading this |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: DMcG Date: 15 Oct 15 - 04:32 AM Nothing to do with the thread really but it fits here better than anywhere. It was announced on the radio today that the oldest roller-coaster in Britain is reopening today after having been completely rebuilt after a fire... |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 15 Oct 15 - 06:05 AM ..or is it? :D |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Bill D Date: 15 Oct 15 - 10:25 AM So... the oldest roller coaster is also the newest roller coaster?! I heard of a guy who owned George Washington's axe.... it had had 3 new heads & 5 new handles, but, think of the history! |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: DMcG Date: 15 Oct 15 - 11:54 AM An interesting little transatlantic shift there. Most Americans who talk about it seem to use the Washington's axe version. I prefer the Argo version, where as pieces of Jason's ship are replaced a old sailor from the voyages lovingly collects all the cast away bits and puts them together. Eventually he has collected an entire ship. Now, which is the Argo? |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: GUEST Date: 16 Oct 15 - 09:08 AM "Behold! You see me as you pass by, "As you are now, so once was I, "As I am now, so you will be, "Prepare for Death and follow me." -- some 18th century New England gravestones (?) |
Subject: RE: BS: The requested URL could not be From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Oct 15 - 09:10 AM In "Only Fools and Horses" Trig was awarded with a long service award as street sweeper. He commented he had the same brush for 25 years - Only had 12 new heads and 7 new staves (or similar:-) ) |