Help: cd burners

Subject: cd burners
From: kendall
Date: 04 Dec 99 - 05:51 PM

I recently heard the term "CD Burners" I know nothing about them. Would someone fill me in?

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: SeanM
Date: 04 Dec 99 - 06:00 PM

It refers to a CD-ROM recording device. The legitimate uses of these are for reproducing back up copies of data on computers, and producing (legitimate) back-up copies of CD-ROM programs for personal use of the purchaser.

They are also being used for the illegitimate purposes of bootlegging CD's, software, and DVDs. This is heartily frowned on by just about every source of copywright authority out there, but, what can ya do?

The device itself uses blank CDs (mostly available as single use blanks), and also requires a PC to use.

M

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: kendall
Date: 04 Dec 99 - 09:37 PM

price? where to buy? I have no intention of doing anything illegal. The thing is..most dj's are too damn lazy to play tapes, because they have to get off their arses and cue them up. If you dont have a cd, you dont get airplay.

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Dec 99 - 10:30 PM

there are one shot CD recorders (you are stuck with what you tell it), but the new deal is CDRW..rewritable CD's....you seem to be able to get this stuff for from $150 to $300-$500. depending on what you want...

the media (blank disks)is REALLY cheap..

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: sophocleese
Date: 04 Dec 99 - 10:37 PM

Oh, thank god! I thought it was either luddites or fundamentalist book burners again...

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Escamillo
Date: 04 Dec 99 - 11:22 PM

I recently bought a COMPRO (Matsushita) CD recorder or CD burner, who happened to be burned out itself in less than 3 months, or less than 20 CDs, whatever comes first. It costed (in Argentina) 420.- pesos = 420.- dollars.
My advice, buy always only first quality (may be Hewlett Packard ? - I can't assure), and buy only first quality blank disks too. Poor ones do not get correctly recorded.
Yours, Andrés

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 05 Dec 99 - 12:17 AM

We got one of the HHB's, Kendall. Cost a bit more, but it allows us to make CD masters from our DATs.

Sandy

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 99 - 12:22 AM

We use a CD burner here, hooked up to a big blue Macintosh, to burn backups and distribute songs. Once you get your wits around it it is a straightforward sort of process, and the result is sure convenient. It's an APS labeled CDRW, but the important part is the Yamaha "engine" inside. Highly recommended.

A

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Michael K.
Date: 05 Dec 99 - 12:28 AM

I have a PC and an IDE system and have gone thru 1 excrutiatingly frustrating experience with the HP 7200i (internal guts made by Phillips - avoid like you'd avoid a plague. Major bugs in the firmware of the unit.)

The one that has proven consistent and very reliable for me is the HP 8200i. (The internal guts of this puppy are manfactured by Sony....so you can't go wrong there, and that was the reason I bought it.) After my previous experience, the "HP" name on it meant nothing.) It uses either write-once CDs (a.k.a CD-R) and also CD rewritables (a.k.a. CD-RW).

It sells for about 225.00 U.S...or around 325.00 CDN.

I love it and consider it an indispensable part of my PC setup. When you consider that a 100 meg zip disk which costs between 15 and 20 bucks, can hold 100 megs of data, and that a blank CD can hold nearly 650 megs of data or 74 minutes of music, at a cost of about 2 bucks per blank, there is no argument as to which is the better backing up and archiving medium.

The things that I find especially useful, are taking a bunch of music CDs from my exisiting collection, and making 1 custom compilation CD of all my favourites tunes for listening to in the car.

My kids have a Sony Playstation, and they are really hard on CDs as they are always mishandling them. When you figure the average cost of a store bought Playstation CD is between 40 and 75.00 bucks (CDN), to me it makes perfect sense to create a copy (no guilt here because I did by the original)and let them use the copy to play with, and store the originals in a safe place. (Mind you you need a special "MOD" chip to play the copies, but it's worth it.

I also like the fact that I can back up my entire life (all my critical business files, financial data, and other essential documents on 1 single CD, with room to spare, and well as saving scanned family pictures, on to them. Anything you can do with a floppy disk or hardrive as far as saving/backing up, you can do with a re-writable CD. Mind you, CD-RW (rewritable disks) are expensive (around 35.00 CDN) and have a limit of about 1000 re-writes before they go south. For me it's cheaper to just backup bi-monthly to a cheap 2 dollar CD-R.

There is also a new tax coming into effect that will be added to the cost of blank CDs (2 bucks added to the cost of 1 disk)....which is supposed to be distributed to royalty funds (BMI -ASCAP - SOCAN, etc.) so you can copy any music CD you want, without feeling guilty. To me, it's the same difference as taping a show or a movie from TV and watching it over again (with the network have already paid the royalties or performance rights for you.

Nice thing is too, if you go to your local library, you can sign out any music CDs you like and copy them. The libraries must know they are encouraging this sort of thing.

Mind you, I'd willingly pay for a Rick Fielding CD. He needs the money. Sting, Michael Jackson, The Stones, etc.etc.etc.etc.......don't.

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 05 Dec 99 - 01:54 AM

Michael Jackson CDs are what you need the burner for!

Another good drive is the Ricoh MP7060A - works well, easy to set up, very good price, or the MP9060A if you also want to read (but not write) DVDs. I also have an older Ricoh drive still working very reliably after burning many hundreds of CDs. Heard some bad reports about some HP models. There's a lot of badge engineering with CD burners so you're never really sure who made them.

Cheers,
Alan

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: kendall
Date: 05 Dec 99 - 08:56 AM

thanks for the info guys. now I know.

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: harpgirl
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 10:41 AM

I went looking at cd burners yesterday, and, the price ranged from $140.00 to $300.00 plus at Circuit City. I didnt stay long, the background music was so loud and annoying, I had to get away from it. Anyway, the Sony was $300.00. is that acceptable?

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Gypsy
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 07:06 PM

Well, i'll just refresh this thread, too. It is older, so anyone reading it: CD's are down to about .50 cents (states) each, rewritables i've seen for about .95. Still looking for input on brands of burners, and what extras to look for. And software.

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Gareth
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 07:15 PM

Well I've just bought an Memorex BBQ 200 externalburner ( portable) Its write speed aint fantastic but as the 'Tribe' use it mainly for DATA back up, that is aceptable.

It certainly beats feeding floppys into my machine.

Gareth

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 07:52 PM

Really worth getting. In fact indispensable. I prefer callingbthem CD recorders, which may sound less dramatic, but it's what they are.

Well you can use them for making copies of CDs you borrow from libraries or wherever, but for people who like making their own music the main use is to turn the audio tapes you make into a more user-friendly format, CDs. That could be tapes of your own music, or copies of records where it'd be useful to have a CD as well. The first is of course totally legal everywhere, the second is legal in most places when done for your own use anyway.

Dead easy to do. All you need is the appropriate recordable-disc drive either fitted in your computer or plugged into it, and a couple of programs that tells your computer what to do.

Here is a link to a DIY page on my website about it. (And if you're still having to rest your voice, kendall, you can just swear under your breath when it goes wrong. But it's not hard. If I can do it, anyone can do it.

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Den
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 08:08 PM

I use them mostly for data storage and for transfering large files to service bureaus, printers etc because of my profession (graphic designer). They are a great tool and a God send for people like me. I did a lot of research before I bought and I'm very happy with my Plextor. I could tell real horror stories about other brands I've had experience with. Plextor however gets a very good rating as do Yamaha. Den

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 08:43 PM

Related thread Help: CD Burners- What to buy? may be of interest.

John

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Gypsy
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 05:55 PM

Thanks, McGrath, will check out your site. John, thanks for the clickies to stick these two threads together

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From:
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 07:21 PM

I just got LG Electronics GCE-8240B model, which cost $150 including taxes.

Here are some details

The GCE-8240B Rewritable Recorder offers 24-speed CD-R, 10-speed CD-RW and 40-speed CD-ROM functions.

- Write, read and rewite your CDs
- Data transfer rate: Max 6,000KB/s

- 24x record/CD-R
- 10x rewrite CD-RW
- 40x MAX read CD-ROM
- 8MB buffer memory with "ExacLink" Buffer Under Run Proof Technology
- 110ms average access time
- Compatable formats: CD-ROM Model 1, CD-ROM XA, Mixed Mode, CD Extra, Photo-CD, CD-Plus, CD-Extra, Bootable CD, Multi Session CD-R, CD-RW, & CD-TEXT
- Convenient E-IDE/ATAPI Plug and Play

System Requirements
- OS Compatability

- Windows 95, 98, 2000, Me, NT 4.0, XP
- Linux Slackware Version 2.3
- MS-DOS Version 3.1 or higher (CD-ROM Reading Only)
- PC Compatability
- CPU: Pentium 233Mhz with IBM PC or Compatible (266Mhz or higher is recommended for writing)
- RAM: 32MB (64MB or higher is recommended)
- HDD: 19msec Access Time
1,200Kbytes/sec or Higher Date Transfer Rate
75MB or more free space
- 5.25" Internal Drive Bay

http://www.lg.ca/product/computer/cdrw/gce8240b.asp

Subject: RE: Help: cd burners
From: Gypsy
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 09:27 PM

Well, do ya love it? Is it wonderful? Am currently looking at the Yamaha CRW2200EZ. Like the stereo and guitar by them, and this is what John in Kansas has. But definitely open to more opinions. No tax return yet