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Folklore: Bardic Tradition

Philbert Digby 12 Dec 15 - 09:56 PM
GUEST 12 Dec 15 - 11:19 PM
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Philbert Digby 12 Dec 15 - 11:50 PM
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Philbert Digby 13 Dec 15 - 02:38 AM
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Subject: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: Philbert Digby
Date: 12 Dec 15 - 09:56 PM

To Whom It May Concern,

Are there any Bardic Traditional music scores available at The Bodleian Archives ?
Do we know what chords for guitar were first used? Who claims to have first written music in it's technical notation/ format as is taught in say,University's or Music Schools?

These questions have been bothering my mind for many years now.

Thanks for reading.

Philbert


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 15 - 11:19 PM

http://www.jacmuse.com/history/newpage4.htm

That's one.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 15 - 11:22 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheet_music

That's two.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 15 - 11:25 PM

https://www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/weston/our-work/projects

That's three.

I don't know what you mean by Bardic Tradition. You'll need someone like Jim Carroll for that.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: GUEST,#
Date: 12 Dec 15 - 11:28 PM

Sorry. The three Guest posts were me.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: Philbert Digby
Date: 12 Dec 15 - 11:50 PM

Neither of them were any help.
Guess I'm in the wrong place.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: GUEST,#
Date: 13 Dec 15 - 12:16 AM

Sorry. Good luck.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: Philbert Digby
Date: 13 Dec 15 - 02:38 AM

For what?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: Stanron
Date: 13 Dec 15 - 04:05 AM

By Bardic do you specifically mean Welsh or the wider Scottish and Irish tradition that died out in the middle 17C to early 18C and remains mostly in old documents? Modern Welsh bardic tradition is a re-invention from, I think, the 19th Century.

Irish Bardic history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_bardic_poetry

Or are you thinking in terms of the older, Troubadour, tradition of French 11th Century?

Troubadour history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubadour

Described as originally monophonic (just a melody line with no harmony) beginning in the 11th Century. Pictures show a single musician playing a fiddle.

In English music the Lute was a commonly used instrument for song accompaniment. Purely chordal accompaniment of music on guitar is something I associate with 19th century America. Others views may differ.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Dec 15 - 04:51 AM

You could try contacting Robin Williamson (late of the Incredible String Band). Apart from his more "pop" side, I understand that he has an interest in the bardic arts (for example harp accompaniments to mythological spoken word stories) and he is Honorary Chief Bard of the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids, an international organisation that puts much emphasis on creative arts and native British/Celtic mythology. He occasionally gives performances of bardic/storytelling etc for them so he probably knows where you could find out more.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 13 Dec 15 - 05:23 AM

There is a strong bar Dick tradition on this very site.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Bardic Tradition
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 13 Dec 15 - 05:35 AM

LoL, Steve.

But floreat Dick!

In at least two senses I can think of!


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