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Tech: Mudcat browser tools

GUEST,DaveRo 17 Jan 16 - 07:17 AM
GUEST,Jon 17 Jan 16 - 06:40 AM
GUEST,Jon 17 Jan 16 - 06:37 AM
GUEST,DaveRo 17 Jan 16 - 04:39 AM
Mr Red 17 Jan 16 - 04:09 AM
GUEST,DaveRo 17 Jan 16 - 02:07 AM
Joe Offer 16 Jan 16 - 06:59 PM
Jeri 16 Jan 16 - 06:04 PM
Jack Campin 16 Jan 16 - 05:37 PM
Joe Offer 16 Jan 16 - 05:27 PM
GUEST,Joe Offer 16 Jan 16 - 05:16 PM
Joe Offer 16 Jan 16 - 05:06 PM
GUEST,ripov 16 Jan 16 - 02:31 PM
GUEST,ripov 16 Jan 16 - 02:26 PM
GUEST,ripov 16 Jan 16 - 02:23 PM
Mr Red 16 Jan 16 - 12:19 PM
GUEST,DaveRo 16 Jan 16 - 09:03 AM
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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,DaveRo
Date: 17 Jan 16 - 07:17 AM

It will italicise threads with a last post date/time after you last refreshed the page. The first time after installation it will italicise everything. If you then refresh the page, and no post has been made, it will italicise nothing. That's probably what you saw.

It saves the text on preview too - any use of the submit button - so easy to test. Once you've done that once it will have a 'last post' in memory whch can be recovered.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 17 Jan 16 - 06:40 AM

Umm. Having made the above post, it looks as if there are problems with #1 on both browsers.

Firefox has italicised every thread and Chromium none.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 17 Jan 16 - 06:37 AM

At a quick look,

Firefox 43.0 Linux:

1 Italicises threads posted to since last visit. Not working.

2 Scrolls thread to first new post. OK.

3 Persists previous user name and selects preview. OK

4 Adds quoting and linking buttons below input area. OK.

5. Saves and recovers text in case of failure to post. Untested.

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Chromium 47.0 Linux

1 Italicises threads posted to since last visit. OK.

2 Scrolls thread to first new post. OK.

3 Persists previous user name and selects preview. OK

4 Adds quoting and linking buttons below input area. OK.

5. Saves and recovers text in case of failure to post. Untested.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,DaveRo
Date: 17 Jan 16 - 04:39 AM

I wouldn't run two very different versions of firefox on the same profile. Use the profile manager to set up a new profile and either use it to select a profile every time or start the non-default instance with a -P command line argument. (You probably knew this!)

By publishing via addons.mozilla.org (AMO) I can update the addon very easily and everybody will get updated automagically. I hope that the chrome store does that too.

But at the moment I don't know when it works and when it doesn't so any diagnostics are welcome. If it fails there will probably be js console errors.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 Jan 16 - 04:09 AM

Is there an extension that filters out all GUEST posts and makes the BS section vanish? LOL

But I'm sorry, I cannot warm to the notion, this is a narrow focus forum, with a wide interpretation of "narrow". The angrynista reflect real life, and always have been around us - it makes it Folk!

I may try "Mudcat Browser Tools" on FF 43 (and rising) but running 2 versions of FF at the same time is not advisable, all my cookies default to a confused mishmash. There is the remote possibility that DaveRo will have to update the Addon as Mozilla updates, they seem to be doing it at about 3 monthly intervals. Best of luck Dave, be alert to updates - mate!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,DaveRo
Date: 17 Jan 16 - 02:07 AM

Mr Red wrote: Not Available for FireFox 34
It needs Firefox 38 or later. I don't know what version of chrome it needs; I don't know much about chrome - I don't use it and this is the first chrome extension I've written. Firefox is changing to chrome-compatible addons, called 'webextensions', and I'm trying them out.

GUEST,ripov wrote: I'm set up to delete everything on browser exit, and then run ccleaner at boot.
Whether the addon will work for you depends on what 'everything' encompasses. If you clear the browser's 'local storage' - aka 'HTML5 storage' - it won't work. I don't know how Chrome handles this storage, or ccleaner.

It doesn't use or affect cookies. My intention is that the username feature only works for guest posts. If the 'From' field is blank it fills it in for you. If you have a cookie I assume it will have no effect but I don't know. Does it work like that?

Joe Offer wrote: the Mudcat extensions work off and on for me now on Google Chrome 47. I have to log out and log in again, and then they work for a time.
Do you mean log out and in from Mudcat?

I've not used it on Chrome on Windows - I don't have it - only Chromium on Linux. Does it work for anyone on Chrome on Windows? Is it the same in Firefox Joe?

And I've only used it as a guest. Maybe the 'signed in' screens are more different than I assumed. Does it work for anyone when signed in?

It should only affect two screens - the index of threads, where changed threads should be in italics - and the thread page which should jump to the first new post and also show the green 'buttons'. If either of those screens is different between signed in and guest then it might well not work. Does the 'moderator version' have extra stuff on those screens? (In technical terms the page code has few CSS selectors, so it has to count the elements - the tables and rows. An additional block might well screw it up.)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 06:59 PM

I tested the BS filter just now, and it doesn't seem to work. Sorry, Jack.

And Dave, the Mudcat extensions work off and on for me now on Google Chrome 47. I have to log out and log in again, and then they work for a time.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 06:04 PM

You can use a BS filter, but I think Joe Offer has to change it for you these days.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: Jack Campin
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 05:37 PM

Is there an extension that filters out all GUEST posts and makes the BS section vanish?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 05:27 PM

Nope, apparently it has nothing to do with being a moderator. I logged out, and then logged back in again - and now it works on Firefox and on Chrome 47.
Howe do I make it work on Safari and Microsoft Edge & Internet Explorer?
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 05:16 PM

I think maybe it isn't set up to work on the moderator version of Mudcat. I logged out, and now it works on Firefox.
This is pretty slick, Dave!

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 05:06 PM

Hi, Dave -
I installed the extension on the current version of Google Chrome, Version 47.0.2526.111 m. So far, I don't notice it doing anything.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,ripov
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 02:31 PM

Having read the description I think it doesn't.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,ripov
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 02:26 PM

Sorry, was that a silly question?- perhaps your no 3. Persist User Name does it? I shall try.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,ripov
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 02:23 PM

Do you have something (batch file maybe)to put the mudcat cookie back in firefox every time you click on Mudcat url? I'm set up to delete everything on browser exit, and then run ccleaner at boot.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: Mr Red
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 12:19 PM

Not Available for FireFox 34

The reason I used FireFox 34.05 is because versions since about 38 (maybe 40) cannot be used to debug my JavaScript. I use timeOut and de-bugger breakpoints cannot be set, it halts on timeOut instead. Go figure. I also have, currently, FF 43 which I use to verify that my code can work on the latest versions. Though if it ever fails, I am clueless on how to debug for the latest iterations. Short of being a manual timer myself.

I test on Chrome 31 & 40, Opera 12 & 28 Safari 5 and IE 11 plus a few rarer IE clones like Maxthon. I like to be backward compatible as poss, even to providing a basic system for non-JavaScript users. Often this means foregoing some niceties. I knew people who up to last year (and maybe still) run IE8.


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Subject: Tech: Mudcat browser tools
From: GUEST,DaveRo
Date: 16 Jan 16 - 09:03 AM

Over the past couple of years I've written several userscripts and bookmarklets for browsing Mudcat. I've now packaged them as a browser addon to make them easier to use, especially on a tablet. They're for Firefox and Chrome.
It adds these features to the threadlist and thread pages:
1. Identifies threads posted to since last visit.
2. Scrolls to the first new post in a thread.
3. Remembers a guest user name, and preselects preview.
4. Adds quoting and linking buttons below the input area.
5. Saves and recovers text in case the post fails to 'stick'.


Mudcat Browser Tools


Feedback welcome, especially for the chrome extension. Any problems installing it?
If anyone is using the original userscripts, don't run both!


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