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BS: Television

The Sandman 26 Jan 16 - 02:13 AM
Joe Offer 26 Jan 16 - 02:42 AM
BobL 26 Jan 16 - 02:47 AM
GUEST,Musket 26 Jan 16 - 03:27 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Jan 16 - 03:31 AM
The Sandman 26 Jan 16 - 03:35 AM
The Sandman 26 Jan 16 - 03:36 AM
Backwoodsman 26 Jan 16 - 03:37 AM
GUEST,LynnH 26 Jan 16 - 03:44 AM
GUEST,Shimrod 26 Jan 16 - 04:14 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Jan 16 - 04:28 AM
Richard Bridge 26 Jan 16 - 05:32 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Jan 16 - 05:37 AM
GUEST,HiLo 26 Jan 16 - 05:44 AM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 26 Jan 16 - 05:48 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Jan 16 - 06:44 AM
Sandra in Sydney 26 Jan 16 - 06:56 AM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 26 Jan 16 - 07:10 AM
gnu 26 Jan 16 - 07:40 AM
GUEST,Shimrod 26 Jan 16 - 07:43 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Jan 16 - 07:47 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Jan 16 - 08:04 AM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 26 Jan 16 - 08:23 AM
Acorn4 26 Jan 16 - 08:38 AM
Rapparee 26 Jan 16 - 09:39 AM
Uncle_DaveO 26 Jan 16 - 09:49 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Jan 16 - 09:59 AM
MGM·Lion 26 Jan 16 - 10:22 AM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 26 Jan 16 - 10:23 AM
akenaton 26 Jan 16 - 10:32 AM
The Sandman 26 Jan 16 - 01:02 PM
GUEST,Pete from seven stars link 26 Jan 16 - 02:06 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Jan 16 - 02:30 PM
MGM·Lion 26 Jan 16 - 02:36 PM
keberoxu 26 Jan 16 - 02:42 PM
GUEST,MikeL2 26 Jan 16 - 02:43 PM
GUEST,Shimrod 26 Jan 16 - 05:29 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Jan 16 - 05:38 PM
akenaton 26 Jan 16 - 05:56 PM
MGM·Lion 26 Jan 16 - 05:58 PM
Bat Goddess 26 Jan 16 - 06:11 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Jan 16 - 06:32 PM
GUEST,Musket 27 Jan 16 - 02:25 AM
GUEST,LynnH 27 Jan 16 - 03:28 AM
GUEST,Mr Red on holiday 27 Jan 16 - 03:52 AM
MGM·Lion 27 Jan 16 - 04:06 AM
akenaton 27 Jan 16 - 04:17 AM
GUEST,Musket 27 Jan 16 - 04:29 AM
akenaton 27 Jan 16 - 04:36 AM
GUEST,Musket 27 Jan 16 - 04:41 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 27 Jan 16 - 09:27 AM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 27 Jan 16 - 09:44 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 27 Jan 16 - 10:19 AM
MGM·Lion 27 Jan 16 - 10:38 AM
GUEST,leeneia 27 Jan 16 - 10:49 AM
Steve Shaw 27 Jan 16 - 02:20 PM
GUEST,MikeL2 27 Jan 16 - 02:26 PM
GUEST,Raggytash 27 Jan 16 - 03:21 PM
MGM·Lion 27 Jan 16 - 05:20 PM
Joe_F 27 Jan 16 - 05:54 PM
Ed T 27 Jan 16 - 07:04 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 28 Jan 16 - 12:38 AM
Seamus Kennedy 28 Jan 16 - 02:44 AM
Keith A of Hertford 28 Jan 16 - 04:13 AM
Will Fly 28 Jan 16 - 05:14 AM
Steve Shaw 28 Jan 16 - 06:28 AM
akenaton 28 Jan 16 - 06:30 AM
MGM·Lion 28 Jan 16 - 08:53 AM
GUEST 28 Jan 16 - 09:07 AM
MGM·Lion 28 Jan 16 - 09:43 AM
MGM·Lion 28 Jan 16 - 09:45 AM
GUEST,leeneia 28 Jan 16 - 12:05 PM
GUEST 28 Jan 16 - 12:28 PM
GUEST,Musket 28 Jan 16 - 12:45 PM
Steve Shaw 28 Jan 16 - 01:25 PM
Keith A of Hertford 28 Jan 16 - 01:46 PM
MGM·Lion 28 Jan 16 - 01:46 PM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 28 Jan 16 - 01:57 PM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 28 Jan 16 - 02:12 PM
GUEST,Musket 28 Jan 16 - 03:44 PM
Steve Shaw 28 Jan 16 - 05:32 PM
GUEST,Shimrod 28 Jan 16 - 05:49 PM
Will Fly 28 Jan 16 - 05:56 PM
Steve Shaw 28 Jan 16 - 06:00 PM
MGM·Lion 29 Jan 16 - 12:41 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 29 Jan 16 - 02:51 AM
GUEST,Musket 29 Jan 16 - 03:05 AM
GUEST,Lapid 29 Jan 16 - 03:16 AM
GUEST,theleveller 29 Jan 16 - 03:47 AM
GUEST,theleveller 29 Jan 16 - 03:51 AM
Jack Blandiver 29 Jan 16 - 04:01 AM
GUEST 29 Jan 16 - 04:42 AM
Dave the Gnome 29 Jan 16 - 06:30 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 29 Jan 16 - 06:49 AM
Steve Shaw 29 Jan 16 - 08:18 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 29 Jan 16 - 11:12 AM
Steve Shaw 29 Jan 16 - 12:29 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 29 Jan 16 - 03:03 PM
GUEST,Musket 29 Jan 16 - 03:31 PM
GUEST 29 Jan 16 - 03:32 PM
Steve Shaw 29 Jan 16 - 04:59 PM
GUEST,MikeL2 30 Jan 16 - 06:15 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 30 Jan 16 - 06:21 AM
Steve Shaw 30 Jan 16 - 06:30 AM
Dave the Gnome 30 Jan 16 - 11:42 AM
Dave the Gnome 30 Jan 16 - 11:44 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 30 Jan 16 - 01:20 PM
Backwoodsman 30 Jan 16 - 01:59 PM
GUEST 30 Jan 16 - 02:08 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 30 Jan 16 - 03:33 PM
GUEST 30 Jan 16 - 04:24 PM
Steve Shaw 30 Jan 16 - 04:52 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 30 Jan 16 - 05:47 PM
GUEST 30 Jan 16 - 06:46 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 30 Jan 16 - 10:05 PM
GUEST,hiloniyut 30 Jan 16 - 10:49 PM
Steve Shaw 31 Jan 16 - 07:59 AM
Dave the Gnome 31 Jan 16 - 08:38 AM
gillymor 31 Jan 16 - 11:33 AM
GUEST 31 Jan 16 - 06:21 PM
Steve Shaw 31 Jan 16 - 06:40 PM
GUEST,hiloniyut 31 Jan 16 - 08:30 PM
Steve Shaw 31 Jan 16 - 09:46 PM
GUEST 31 Jan 16 - 09:54 PM
Steve Shaw 31 Jan 16 - 10:06 PM
GUEST,Raggytash 01 Feb 16 - 04:47 AM
Steve Shaw 01 Feb 16 - 05:30 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 01 Feb 16 - 05:28 PM
Dave the Gnome 02 Feb 16 - 02:26 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 02 Feb 16 - 03:52 PM
Dave the Gnome 02 Feb 16 - 04:08 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 02 Feb 16 - 06:38 PM
GUEST 02 Feb 16 - 07:33 PM
GUEST 03 Feb 16 - 12:43 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 03 Feb 16 - 02:11 AM
Dave the Gnome 03 Feb 16 - 02:47 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 03 Feb 16 - 03:01 AM
akenaton 03 Feb 16 - 03:02 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 03 Feb 16 - 04:03 AM
Dave the Gnome 03 Feb 16 - 04:41 AM
GUEST 03 Feb 16 - 08:46 AM
Dave the Gnome 03 Feb 16 - 09:10 AM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 03 Feb 16 - 09:29 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 03 Feb 16 - 09:51 AM
Dave the Gnome 03 Feb 16 - 10:24 AM
Dave the Gnome 03 Feb 16 - 10:32 AM
GUEST,MikeL2 03 Feb 16 - 11:03 AM
Lighter 03 Feb 16 - 02:15 PM
GUEST,Musket 03 Feb 16 - 03:15 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 03 Feb 16 - 11:42 PM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 04 Feb 16 - 12:17 AM
Dave the Gnome 04 Feb 16 - 02:57 AM
keberoxu 04 Feb 16 - 07:49 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 05 Feb 16 - 02:20 AM
Dave the Gnome 05 Feb 16 - 03:46 AM
Steve Shaw 05 Feb 16 - 06:06 AM
keberoxu 05 Feb 16 - 01:37 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 05 Feb 16 - 07:51 PM
Dave the Gnome 06 Feb 16 - 05:23 AM
Kampervan 06 Feb 16 - 06:15 AM
keberoxu 06 Feb 16 - 12:53 PM
The Sandman 06 Feb 16 - 01:21 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 06 Feb 16 - 02:11 PM
keberoxu 07 Feb 16 - 12:20 PM
GUEST,leeneia 07 Feb 16 - 11:55 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 08 Feb 16 - 01:52 AM
MikeL2 08 Feb 16 - 10:01 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 09 Feb 16 - 01:21 PM
keberoxu 09 Feb 16 - 01:31 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 09 Feb 16 - 05:00 PM
GUEST,Pete from seven stars link 10 Feb 16 - 03:26 PM
Ed T 10 Feb 16 - 06:26 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 11 Feb 16 - 05:59 PM
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Subject: BS: Television
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:13 AM

Am I the only mudcatter who does not have or wish to own a Television? /


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:42 AM

I'd say that many of us find better things to do than watch television, but still it's nice to have one every once in a while for important news, an occasional movie, and whatnot. I understand the average use in the US is 5 hours a day. Mine is about two hours a month.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: BobL
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:47 AM

Snap!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 03:27 AM

Broadens your horizons Dick.

Answers a few questions on here too 😂


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 03:31 AM

Valerie & I did without one for most of our nearly ½C marriage. When she was missing for a while in China after Tienenman, a kind friend gave me an old B&W set to keep up with the news, & I took to The Bill (in those days a nice half-hour separate episode police-procedural) especially as a taker-off-of-anxiety resource.

My 2nd wife Emma & I share an interest in sport, and both like police soaps [Bill, Softly Softly, Frost, Endeavour, Vera, & such] for mild recreation, so we keep a big set for watching those. Nowadays I can't read much by artificial light without a lot of strain, & the telly helps to fill the evening. Old age, alas, brings the need for such compromises and accommodations!

But power to your abstinence, Dick. There are indeed, while one retains one's youth & vigour, many far more creative & satisfactory ways of using one's time & energies.

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 03:35 AM

Broadens your horizons, not wishing to be impertinent, but perhaps you would be good enough to explain exactly how, and what advantage[ horizon broadening] it would have over reading a book listening to the radio getting info from the computer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 03:36 AM

That is understandable, MGM


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 03:37 AM

There's nothing wrong with television per se. The secret is in being very selective in the choice of programmes one watches.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,LynnH
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 03:44 AM

My last 'idiot box' gave up the ghost 36 years ago. Since then I've of course occasionally watched tele programmes but generally I don't miss it. For the one or two programmes a week which interested me I didn't think the expenditure to be justified. Now I catch up on old comedy series and documentaries on YouTube and I'm satisfied.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 04:14 AM

Oh come on! There's some great stuff on telly! I'm loving the beebs adaptation of 'War and Peace' and Richard Fortey's new series on islands and evolution is terrific (I bet a certain 'starry pete' isn't watching it - he might learn something he doesn't want to know!).

Sometimes you catch a real gem. Near the end of last year I watched, fascinated, a programme in which team of scientists 'dissected' an extremely realistic looking (dead) Tyrannosaurus Rex! Power tools were required and there was gallons of blood and stomach contents etc. It was a brilliant and novel way of teaching its audience about how dinosaurs evolved and how they relate to creatures - like birds, for example - alive today.

And then there was another, more recent, programme, presented by Alice Roberts, about woolly mammoths and what we are learning about them through studying their remains buried in the permafrost of Siberia.

It's not all about evolution and palaeontology, of course! There's plenty of drama and comedy and documentaries covering every subject from history to contemporary social problems. And then there's endless repeats of 'Top Gear' ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 04:28 AM

As BWM says, selectiveness is the key. There is nothing much more depressing than going into one of those homes where the bloody box is always wittering away in the background even if nobody is paying the remotest attention to it. And, yes, I can think of at least two households among my present acquaintance where this is the case.

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:32 AM

I am following the re-runs of Star Trek DS9 (so that's 5 hours per week) and "Endeavour" (the prequels to the "Inspector Morse" series) so that makes 7 hours per week.

I used to watch the news (BBC) most evenings and Question Time but both have become such hard-core propaganda for the most dishonest right wing factors that I no longer do that, and get most factual information online.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:37 AM

Backwoodsman and Shimrod are spot on. If you don't want to have a telly, all power to your elbow. But try not to exude a faint air of superiority over it. There is nothing especially superior about not having a telly. Apart from anything else, if you don't have one you don't know what you're missing, and not everything on telly is designed to deprave, corrupt, rot your brain or waste your time.


Anyway, Liverpool matches are often on the telly. As tonight for example.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:44 AM

We do have one but seldom watch it. I enjoy radio much more, you can do other things while listening to radio. I also hate visiting with people who have the telly blaring away all during a visit, including during a meal. We just decline those invitations now. But there are occasional good things on , so, as I say, we keep a small one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:48 AM

My old mum in her 80s spends most of her time in the house on her own.

Her telly is 'good company' and, apart from our daily phone calls and her regular trips to the shops, a lifeline to the greater outside world.

Dick - would you rather she got a bleedin' budgie...!!!??? 😜


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 06:44 AM

The telly goes on for a couple of hours every night, but we're not both watching it all the time. Mrs Steve watches a lot of those hospital dramas. I've had two hospital stays in the last couple of years and I can tell you that the Holby one has more gorgeous lady doctors and nurses in it than the rest of the NHS put together. I can't watch any soaps though my parents have them on all the time, but then they're in their late 80s/early 90s. I like footie on the telly I must admit, and I've just watched a cracking good series about the history of Spain and another about ancient Egypt. I've got one recording about islands, presented by Richard Fortey, a fabulous man. And then there's Attenborough. A positive cornucopia, there for the taking. Are the creationists allowing the yanks to watch Life On Earth on DVD yet? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 06:56 AM

I've never owned a TV, & I don't go to movies as I'm not a watcher. I love radio & books & the net. I quite often don't follow youtube links friends send. But there are times I watch a whole series of youtube clips.

We finally got a TV when I was 14 & in the 10 years till I left home I watched so little that if I wanted to see something the rest of the family didn't, we often watched that! I spent most of my time in my bedroom pretending to study & listening to the radio & doing a good job of teenage isolating.

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 07:10 AM

If I say I come from a family of cyclists who never owned a car.
That I have never wanted to be burdened by car ownership,
or even take driving lessons
[apart from when I had to as conditions of employment for 2 jobs which both folded before I needed apply for a driving test]

..well 'normal' folks just tend to regard me as a suspiciously pitiful crackpot...

Now supposing I kinda feel a similar vibe when I hear otherwise intelligent folks boasting all sanctimoniously about TV ownership.... 😜


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 07:40 AM

≈M≈... I have a big LCD in my living room hooked to my laptop and I sit 6' away so it's great for reading the newspaper or whatever. I am presently 2' from a 32" LCD as I type. Same deal.

As for TV, I watch some sports and some news and I record late night comedy talk shows for later viewing. Documentaries are required viewing... science, history and the like.

I suppose I watch TV about 15 hours per week and that goes to 20 hours during NFL playoff season.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 07:43 AM

"Now supposing I kinda feel a similar vibe when I hear otherwise intelligent folks boasting all sanctimoniously about TV ownership..."

There's nothing sanctimonious or boastful about it! There's are some excellent programmes on the telly - which I personally enjoy and learn a lot from. I also find them a spur to learning more. For example, the new BBC adaptation of 'War and Peace' has prompted me to read a bit more about Napoleon's Russian campaigns.

Is it possible, do you suppose, that some people without TVs might be described as "sanctimonious"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 07:47 AM

God yes!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 08:04 AM

I am, BTW, Steve, much looking forward to the Liverpool v Stoke 2nd leg match tonite. I shall be surprised if Liverpool do not hang on to, & probably even enhance, their one away-goal 1st leg advantage. But, as that guy in the Shaw* play sez: "You Never Can Tell"! - which is of course what will make the game worth watching, even in a properly constituted household like ours, consisting of one Chelsea [Emma] & one Arsenal [me] supporter.

≈M≈

*no relation, I take it?!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 08:23 AM

My all time favourite genre of movies and TV is the 'Western'.
It is a vitally visual genre of big landscapes and skies..
Radio and Books, just can't compete with the medium of TV.

.. and although I live in the West of England.. somehow, looking out my window just aint the same as Cinemascope vies of the American West !!!

[even though it's mostly filmed in Canada for finance & tax reasons these days...]


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Acorn4
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 08:38 AM

I'll catch up on TV watching when I'm in the nursing home.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 09:39 AM

We have four televisions: two downstairs and two up. The two up are flat panels: there's a 19 inch one in my wife's office and a 34 inch one on the wall in the dining room. My wife "watches" Deutsche Welle in the evening as she works; we had the "big" TV on one morning last week to catch the Weather Channel's reportage on the blizzard on the East Coast. That was the first time in a month or two we've used the bigger set.

As far as I know the ones downstairs, both CRTs, haven't been used in literally a couple of years.

That TV viewing poll group paid me five bucks to participate a couple years ago. Most of the times were that none of the four TVs were turned on, but I seem to remember following a news story then and so there was some crumb tossed to the company.

When I/we do watch, it's very, very, very selective.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 09:49 AM

We (my Beautiful Wife and I) own a TV--but not
basically for TV programing!

We watch movie DVDs, which we get from Netflix, maybe
two or three per week.

The BW will occasionally watch TV for such things
as political "debates", so-called. No accounting for
tastes. And inauguration speeches, where she will
now and then succeed in dragging me in front of the tube.
She can't get me there for the Oscars.   

Someone may ask, "Don't you watch the news?" We get
our news fix from the radio (NPR).

I'd guess I don't average watching more than two hours a year of TV as TV.

I make no suggestion of moral or intellectual superiority
by stating the above. It's just a reflection of our interests and tastes.

"Whatever floats yer boat, Jack." YMMV.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 09:59 AM

I'll be watching the game on my iPhone using my mobile Sky Sports app and my Roberts Travelpad Bluetooth speaker, which was a freebie, a way of watching that I enjoy a lot. I also watch a lot of telly on the iPad. I find iPlayer a better experience that way. That little speaker is pure joy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 10:22 AM

We shall watch on the big flatscreen in our living-room which we found as a great bargain offer in Tesco's 3 or 4 years back, snip at £100, which has performed us great service since.

Important thing is that we and you will be watching together, here in the Global Village. Come back McLuhan, all is forgiven...

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 10:23 AM

I used to be an avid cinema goer. 2 or 3 times a week.
But that was before mobile phones and extortionate ticket prices.
Now, the 47" Hi Def telly, hifi headphones [and occasional 3D glasses] more than suffice for a stress free viewing experience.

The wife usually goes to bed soon after 10.00pm, leaving me to switch between freeview recordings, or Sky & Amazon Prime Movies on Demand, or pop in a blu-ray.

Switch off all the lights.. sit back, and enjoy...

Not forgetting the big bottle of sugar free tesco cloudy lemonade.... 😎


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 10:32 AM

I think it's slightly more damaging than the internet, providing that you don't use facebook.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 01:02 PM

I asked a question.
I dont mind what anyone else does.
I Certainly would not force punk folk rockers 80 year old mum to have a budgie.
it seems like its just me and Lynne H, possibly acorn 4, Who do not have televisions or dont want one.
I have never made a claim to being superior, if anyone detects whiff of superiority, its not intended.
I also appreciate having the choice of being able to go to a pub and not watch a television, or occasionally to watch one, but I would not be happy if that choice was removed either way, it is particularly annoying if you are trying to have a music session and the tv is left on even if the sound is off, I always try and sit so i cannot see it., but thats just my opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:06 PM

Some people just like to be combative , GSs.   I see shimrod and Steve are getting withdrawal symptoms and looking for a fight again. I am pretty sure I have seen more evolutionist stuff than they have creationist , and in all the threads on the subject , which only evolutionists have initiated here, just about the only evidence they offer is appeal to numbers and authority.          I read war and peace a long time ago , was looking forward to the series , but ceased watching it when I realised the beeb were doing their best to turn it into a sex romp at every opportunity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:30 PM

Jesus, I'll have to start watching it then!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:36 PM

Yes, I gathered that from the pre-publicity, Pete, and have refrained from watching. I have in fact learned over long years not to watch screen or stage adaptations of novels of which I am particularly fond. They never get then right. Esp, as here, when the work of the much-adulated but IMO absolute·kiss·of·death Andrew Davies, who, as I once said in a review (had to watch that time coz was working) suffers from the dire delusion that he can write better dialogue than Jane Austen and create better plots that Anthony Trollope -- as if!

The only exceptions were the much more sensitive adaptations of David Nokes, who made an astonishingly good fist of Richardson's Clarissa, which I should have thought the most intractable to adapt; he really caught the atmosphere of extreme deviousness on which that great work turns. & Dickens, sensitively adapted, can work now and again -- I recall a reasonable BBC Our Mutual Friend nearly 20 years ago.

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:42 PM

I don't have a television in my apartment.

I'm old enough to recall television BC, Before Cable [TV], from my childhood; the house I was raised in, viewing was very selective, so only a few hours a week were viewed.

Traveling as an adult, I have checked in to enough hotels to notice what television is like these days. I can use a few of those buttons on the remote control, enough to look at a channel with the sound turned completely off for a few seconds before surfing to the next channel. All these years on, I have viewed more films in the privacy of a hotel room, on cable TV, than I have in the cinema (which I avoid anyhow). The Weather Channel is entertaining and sometimes they even get the forecast right.

But then I don't have a computer at home either, this post is coming from the public computer station at the local library branch.

Superiority? The opposite, I have to admit; I just have a horror of all this stuff that is new to me. Calculators, computer programs, cable subscription bundles, telephones that take your photograph, .... one of these days, though, I ought to learn how to cut and paste, and maybe then I will stop flunking blue clicky school at Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 02:43 PM

hi GSS

<"I also appreciate having the choice of being able to go to a pub and not watch a television, or occasionally to watch one, but I would not be happy if that choice was removed either way, it is particularly annoying if you are trying to have a music session and the tv is left on even if the sound is off, I always try and sit so i cannot see it., but thats just my opinion.">

In this day of simple TV recording there is nothing to stop anyone from recording a program and going to the pub. I do it regularly. But that is my choice. I appreciate yours is different.

I agree with your point if you are having a music session and TV is on it can be very infuriating and IMHO ignorant on the part of the host/publican.

Mind you I have a 2nd home in Spain and in many Spanish bars and restaurants it is not unusual to have three or four TVs running with as many different programs on at the same time - usually football.
Over in Spain it is the normal thing and is not through anyone being ignorant.

Of course there are bars where live music is played and the people watch and listen appreciatively. But they take some finding.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:29 PM

"I read war and peace a long time ago , was looking forward to the series , but ceased watching it when I realised the beeb were doing their best to turn it into a sex romp at every opportunity."

Drat! I seem to have missed the sex romps. But then, perhaps the term 'sex romp' means something different to a fundamentalist?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:38 PM

Anyway, Liverpool did it. Deservedly. The Stoke goal was blatantly offside. Justice done. What having a telly is all about.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:56 PM

There does not seem to be any decent drama on TV anymore it's all disgusting so called comedy, celebrity parades or carefully orchestrated "talent shows"......what happened to all the wonderful plays, documentaries and really good series that BBC used to serve up?

I remember the workmen at the firm where I served my apprenticeship arguing and discussing the Wednesday Play or politics from Panorama.

I wonder if they discus who showed the most flesh or swore the most often on Big Brother now? Comedy has become a "sick joke"
As a society, I think we have regressed not evolved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 05:58 PM

Yay -- well done, Liverpool! Emma hopes Everton get thru tomorrow, as she fancies an all-Merseyside needle-final. Easy, myself. No London clubs left in, only those pesky impudent Lankies. Don't know what things are coming to!

≈M≈

Don't agree re offside, btw. Just about level as I saw it. & no flags raised, nor no disputes from any player. Can't really have been as 'blatant' as you claim, can it now, Steve? Honest now!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 06:11 PM

I have a television -- an old one, not a flatscreen. I use it to watch DVDs and videotapes.

I haven't watched scheduled television since 1983. That was pre-cable and we only got three stations. I was watching mostly movies, "The Muppets", Jacque Cousteau documentaries, and "Masterpiece Theatre".

I was in the middle of watching "Brideshead Revisited" on Masterpiece Theatre when I found, no matter how many times that episode was scheduled during the week, that I just couldn't find time to watch it. I threw up my arms in disgust (figuratively) and both Tom and I stopped watching television completely.

More recently I've binge-watched several series on DVD -- "White Collar", "Boston Legal", "Big Bang Theory", "Rosemary & Thyme". Much nicer that way.

I've never watched sports because I have no interest in sports and neither did Tom (or my first husband, for that matter). I find televisions in pubs and restaurants to be really really annoying, even if I'm trying not to pay any attention to them. (Just the onscreen movement distracts from conversations.)

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 06:32 PM

Watch it again, Michael. You did say you watched telly because of your diminishing eyesight. Carry on like this and you could qualify as a ref.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 02:25 AM

If telly contains sick jokes these days it must be going backwards. I thought sick jokes ended when creatures such as Bernard Manning were taken off the telly?

Mrs Musket and I record a few things and unwind in front of them later at night. She invariably works 13 hours a day so we don't eat til 8.00pm, leaving just enough time for, (at present..) Endeavour, Silent Witness, War & Peace, and when I'm out strutting me stuff she watches that midwife jobby.

Right now we are out skiing. Someone asked if we get any UK telly over here. I have to be honest, we spend a few weeks a year here in Tignes and have never turned the telly on yet.

OK, we watch Ski Sunday on my iPad.... They are recording the men's downhill from here later this week. I'll be the grinning idiot stood behind them as they commentate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,LynnH
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 03:28 AM

Most of my friends are 'Telly-free zones' or, if not, they only switch the thing on if they're ill and confined to bed. Generally, we all consider that we've better things to do with our time - music, art, dance, reading good books, cultivating friendships etc.etc.etc. But feeling some sort of superiority 'cos we're telly-free? Forget it!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Mr Red on holiday
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 03:52 AM

I never owned a TV until last year when I bought a portable.
But I have owned 5 video recorders, & 4 TV cards for PC's in the last 20 years. Like all things: to avoid anything that is not harmful, completely, is extreme. TV is a time watser, but then lying on the beach using up your risk factor for melanoma is a time waster, but there are people with jobs that don't allow them to switch off fully day to day and swapping a week of oxytocin for all that cortisol is beneficial to life. Personbally I found other ways to top up on oxytocin but whatever works for you - like ceilidh dancing. TV is mental wallpaper mostly, but it can dilute that cortisol if you have too much.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:06 AM

I used of course to have to ref, Steve, back in my long·since teaching days. Alas, I just could not keep up with the play, not being all that mobile nowadays.

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:17 AM

I think Bernard might have been a bit subtle for some people.

The great writers like Bleasdale, Loach, Peter McDougall,Dennis Potter, Mike Leigh....made ordinary folk think and discuss, the shit which is doled out now is produced with the opposite intention.

Most of my neighbours no longer watch TV other than for news.
The prancing grinning hyenas of TV "comedy" lack wit or decency.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:29 AM

"I think Bernard might have been a bit subtle for some people." -Akenaton.

A quick Google of Bernard Manning "jokes"

"Why do nig nogs smell? So the blind can hate them as well."

"What's the difference between a nig nog and a Paki? A nig nog takes the plates out before pissing in the sink."

Yeah, far too subtle for an ignoramus like me. I obviously lack Akenaton's sense of humour. Mind you, how someone can say they don't watch it yet comment on the quality is beyond me. I think an unhealthy dose of prejudice helps eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:36 AM

You seem to be a stranger to irony.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 04:41 AM

I rest my case


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 09:27 AM

I have not had a television capable of receiving programs for over 20 years. I have one, but it's only used to play DVDs, usually borrowed from the library. It is not connected to an antenna, satellite dish, or cable service.

By the way, why is it sometimes called a television "set" when there's only one of 'em? I have a chess "set" and it has 32 pieces plus a board.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 09:44 AM

Anyone still use a working valve [tube] TV ?

I have to keep reminding my old mum there's no point banging the top of her TV these days if it's 'playing up'.


Btw.. every time I've had to go round her house to fix it, the problem has always been 'user error'.

For instance, using the wrong remote [for her CD/radio boom box] for days on end before she let me know there was a problem...

"... and I'm banging the top of the set, but it still won't work..."

Slicing the aerial cable in half [how the F did she do that !!!???] and sellotaping it back together..

".. I keep banging it but it still wont do anything..."..... 😣


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 10:19 AM

Hi

I watched Liverpool match. I hate to have to agree with Steve over the off-side decision. It was extremely close but it did look offside to me.

Mind you compared with some of the off-side decisions I have seen this year it was controversial. The concern I have is that the decisions in many cases are so obvious that it defied belief that none of the match officials spot them.

Another point - the shirt pulling that hardly ever gets spotted. More like wrestling , especial for corners and free kicks into the area.
We at Man U have a bad example. Just watch Chris Smalling !!

And the stealing of yards especially at throw-ins. Last night Stoke were regularly doing it. Fer did get one of them.

Just one point of order for Michael....Liverpool is now not in Lancashire.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 10:38 AM

MikeL -- No, I know. But if there was a God he would say it was. Just can't be doing with all this Greater·This and Inner·That and Outer·The·Other, and all these innovations. & I didn't actually say it was: simply used the term Lankies, which seems to me a useful sort of blanket-term for denizens of Gtr Mnchstr & Merseyside and all such Nowherevilles which used to be in Somewhere "when this old hat was new" as the song puts it.

Cheers ritebak 2U

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 10:49 AM

I don't own a TV and never have. I'm not a snob; TV (and movies) just doesn't agree with my nervous system.

I have bad eyes, and I hate images that flash or move too fast. Once, at a Welsh Society meeting, they showed a video from the Welsh Tourist Board where images of mountains, castles, gardens, and harbors shot by in rapid succession. I couldn't stand to watch it. The content was beautiful, but for me the format was awful.

I have sensitive, damaged ears, and I found sudden loud noises and shrill voices painful. That eliminates the crime shows with gunshots and the comedies with squealing females.

I have also discovered that when watching movies, I tend not to breathe for long periods of time. Something about movies is bothering me deeply, but I don't know what it is.

I enjoy YouTube videos because they are short, because I can choose the content, and I can walk away at any time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 02:20 PM

So, Michael, two offsides to your obvious misinterpretation, and my ally is a Man U man fee chrissake. Eat shit, punk!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 02:26 PM

HI Michael

I know what you mean about the changes in boundaries in Manchester and Liverpool. Even we who live here can't be bothered.

My elder son who lives in Altrincham and used to be in the County of
Cheshire., was "moved" into Trafford which is in Greater Manchester. They were not happy about "moving" out of Cheshire which has a higher status around here. In fact they refuse to have Trafford as part of their postal address and use Altrincham Cheshire.

In fact we used to live in Northwich Cheshire and without moving one inch we live in Chester West !!!

Still with me????

Funny old world innit?

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 03:21 PM

MGM, so Lancashire is nowheresville is it. I think I can convince you it is actually God's County.

In order to do so I need you to tell me which is the established religion of this sceptre'd isle .........this blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 05:20 PM

No, Raggy -- you misunderstood. Lancashire is the Somewhere where things used to be; it is these new non-creations like Greater This'n'That & Somethingside & Wotsit·West which they have moved them to that constitute the Land Of Nowheresville (see MikeL's post just above).

Try to keep up, please!

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Joe_F
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 05:54 PM

In 1970 or thereabouts, I ordered a miniature TV from Sears, thinking I would keep it on the closet shelf & only let it out when it promised to behave. Sears told me that that model had been discontinued, but it would sell me the next bigger one for the same price. It was too big for the shelf, so that was the end of that.

Somewhat earlier (1962?), I lived in a graduate dorm that had one in the lounge. It would snare me on the way to my room, but only until the first commercial came on. Even studying was better than that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Jan 16 - 07:04 PM

"I like to watch"
Chauncey Gardner, Being There


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:38 AM

Oh well, if you don't like the posts, you can always change the thread...or something like that....and now a word from our sponsors...

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 02:44 AM

Dick - here in the US, we get wonderful shows about old-timey,folk, bluegrass, country AND western, western swing, usually on PBS, which I watch every time they're on. Also the Irish/Scottish/Celtic shows, so I like watching and listening. However, what's the difference (nowadays) between TV and Youtube? I've enjoyed the performances of so many 'Catters - MGM-Lion, yourself, Big Mick, Debra Cowan and others via that medium that I may as well be watching television.
See you in June in Cork?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 04:13 AM

I have seen some excellent TV in recent months, and the cost trivial.
Why would anyone deprive themselves?

News and current affairs alone are worth having it.
I am following Jericho and Deutchland 1983.
I have watched the Homeland series, and any number of histories-Wars of The Roses, Tudors, Naval histories, Shipwrecks (current series).
Historical fiction- the series based on Cornwells stories of Alfred and the Danes, his Sharp stories, etc.
Cutting edge Science, archeology, it is all there.
Grab it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Will Fly
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 05:14 AM

what happened to all the wonderful plays, documentaries and really good series that BBC used to serve up?

Did you miss the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures, Stargazing, The Story of Scottish Art, Stonehenge: a Timewatch Guide, Death Camp Treblinka: Survivor Stories, Winterwatch, Trust Me, I'm a Doctor?

All BBC, and the last six were all on last night...

The problem, as I see it, with TV, is the necessity to fill all the channels 24 hours a day, plus the multiplicity of channels. So, while there's still a good core of intelligent and watchable programmes, that core is surrounded by an immense amount of fluff. (But many people are attracted to fluff).

Classic television from the past like the Civilization series and Monitor stood more in isolation than sucj programmes would these days.

Now, back to Casualty... (I'll get me coat).


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 06:28 AM

Winterwatch last night was an absolute treat. I was flicking between it on the big telly and the Man City-Everton match on my iPhone and Winterwatch won out. Gorgeous.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 06:30 AM

I do watch some decent documentaries Will, but the drama and entertainment sector has really gone downhill.
I was looking at a list of the weekly plays from 1964 to 79...absolute magic and great cast lists.

As said above these plays caused great discussion amongst ordinary folk.....As you probably know, I worked in the building trade, after watching "The Lump" a play concerning unprotected labour in the industry, I joined the Communist Party!
That's the sort of effect good drama can have on people. Right or wrong, it makes people think.

Not much to think about in present day drama(soap opera)


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 08:53 AM

What everyone is adapting to the occasion in many of the most recent posts {eg Will at 0514} is, of course, Theodore Sturgeon's irrefutable Law Of Science Fiction: variously rendered, but in essence

"90% of SF is crud -- because 90% of everything is crud!"

...including tv, natch.

Everyone's remaining 10% will vary:- Seeking out that 10% which works for oneself is surely the essence of the matter...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 09:07 AM

MGM·Lion - Just curious... what's your favourite Sci Fi, Western, and War movies ???

Do you have one of each genre you'd absolutely recommend to anyone ???


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 09:43 AM

Off top of head, in genres specified: probably

The Incredible Shrinking Man or Bride Of Frankenstein

The Magnificent Seven or Stagecoach or Westward The Women or Drums Along The Mohawk or Shane

The Bridge On The River Kwai or The Real Glory or The Red Badge Of Courage or An Incident At Owl Creek Bridge

But I don't set up to be any sort of authority on film, these are just personal choices, as you ask. And I'd probably recall a completely different set if asked again in 6 months time!

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 09:45 AM

... or even 5 minutes' time: forgot Dr Stangelove, innit!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:05 PM

"Why would anyone deprive themselves?"

Obviously Keith didn't read a word of MY post. Well, why would he? I'm female, American and not one of the Usual Suspects.

If he'd read it, he might have learned something. And he might have thought, "There are probably other people like her. Could be thousands of them, for all we know."

Have you ever noticed that in a doctor's waiting room or in an airport lounge where a TV is on, that almost nobody is watching it? And if they do watch, it is only briefly. Why is that? It seems like a good question to ask.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:28 PM

Because Drs get a cut from the advertising on the TVs - irrespective if anyone is actually watching.

And yes Leenia, we get it you can't enjoy TV because of your health.
No need to make an issue of it.

I can no longer enjoy running and swimming because of my health.
Many of us also don't get as much sex as we used to because of our health.

so yes, we do understand why you don't watch TV.
So enjoy what you can do without such fuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 12:45 PM

With Keith on this. (As I type, I see birds dropping out of the sky, but anyway..)

Whilst Mrs Musket and I wind down to bubblegum of a decent variety such as Silent Witness, Endeavour etc, I like to unwind to the gogglebox when I get in late after playing in clubs etc. The documentary quality, especially BBC is staggeringly good, and I reckon the government threat to clip the BBC wings could affect this treasure trove.

That said, it does amaze me how many homes you visit, the telly is a constant companion. We turn it on to watch something and then turn it off again. I doubt, F1, footy and cricket apart, that our tellies have been turned on during the day.

I'm not American or female or indeed a suspect, usual or special. Although I doubt I would learn something from anyone on the basis of being any of the above. What a strange odd post? This started by Dick telling us he doesn't own a telly. I don't own false teeth, a hippopotamus or a monkey Butler.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 01:25 PM

It's STRANGELOVE, Michael. Just like it's Mr Ban and MOSLEY. Heheh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 01:46 PM

Leenia,
Obviously Keith didn't read a word of MY post. Well, why would he? I'm female,

I promise you I meant no offence Leenia, and I am so sorry if I did offend.
I was belatedly replying to the op and not to yourself in any way.

If you can be selective there is a treasure trove of delights available for almost no cost. I think we should embrace it. I do.

I am so sorry that you can not enjoy it as others do. I hope things can be improved for you. There are many ways of accessing the content some of which may be less difficult for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 01:46 PM

Fair cop, Steve. Enjoy your petty triumph over a simple typo -- you don't enjoy that many, now do you! Expect this'n'll make your year!

〠≈M≈〠

teeheeheeheeheeheeheehee......................................


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 01:57 PM

Leenia - In the UK at least, BBC4 has been trialling "Slow TV "...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 02:12 PM

MGM - that was me asking [forgot to type my name again]...

Despite my adult life of lefty liberal progressive social / cultural politics..

I still love cowboy, war, and space movies...

Can't help it, I'm a product of a 1960s council estate TV enthralled childhood...

[apparently us lefties are allowed to admit to enjoying some sci fi ...???]

Thanks, there are films on your list that have passed out of my memory
that i can check out again.....



..anyway, I'll say a mixture of encyclopaedias, wide ranging TV viewing, and American super hero comics
all gave me the breadth of knowledge and interests & immagination to pass the 11 plus and 'move up' to grammar school...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 03:44 PM

Keith. Can I have royalty payments for you using "treasure trove?"

My regret remains not owning a monkey butler.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 05:32 PM

I can't follow plots and Mrs Steve rips my head off if I keep having to ask what's going on. The films I love are all the Pink Panthers, Butch Cassidy, all the Naked Guns, Airplane! And Blazing Saddles. I always watch 2001 when it comes on the telly though I haven't a clue what it's all about. I never read novels. I'm a non-fiction man on the whole, in spite of the bollix that I post here at times. ;-) Mind you, I get a fair bit of fiction on this website!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 05:49 PM

"Lancashire is the Somewhere where things used to be; it is these new non-creations like Greater This'n'That & Somethingside & Wotsit·West ..."

News just in!

Apparently large swathes of the north west of England are soon going to be amalgamated to form a new county called "Developershire".This new regional designation finally acknowledges that most of the region belongs to developers and most of the local authorities exist purely to service developers' needs, accede to their demands and give them every assistance in their schemes to concrete over as much as possible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Will Fly
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 05:56 PM

Apparently large swathes of the north west of England are soon going to be amalgamated to form a new county called "Developershire".This new regional designation finally acknowledges that most of the region belongs to developers and most of the local authorities exist purely to service developers' needs, accede to their demands and give them every assistance in their schemes to concrete over as much as possible.

Hah! I thought that was West Sussex...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Jan 16 - 06:00 PM

Nah, it's Taunton and Bude.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 12:41 AM

Steve: Something we do have in common, however much we may differ on some issues, is this inability to fill in the holes in the plots of so much tv drama. I genuinely think it isn't just us, it's writers vainly struggling for too much mystifying originality of effect who are to blame.

Which reminds me of a beef I have with contemp commercial channels:-

All these narrative ads, which seem to consist of a series of random and arbitrary 'happenings' & images, to me frequently add up to no comprehensible content whatever; often I can't even make out what·the·hell product is being 'advertised'!

Smartarse ad-agency pundits are taking over the world. Let us UNITE TO DEFEAT THEM, I say... Tho quite how I'm none too sure.

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 02:51 AM

Just THINK(for a change) on how much you think you know...that you got from television, and the accumulation of fictionalized 'facts'!..whether it be movies or fictionalized 'news'.

just for an experiment: Go out into the woods, or somewhere in nature, take a long walk, after leaving your cell phones at home, or any other device of artificial stimulation, then go home and turn on the tube.
Notice the difference in the peace, and depth of thought, vs jumping into the world of make believe??

'...and now a word from our sponsors...'

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:05 AM

Back in the '70s, when children's telly was a couple of hours at teatime, there was a programme called "Why don't you turn off your television set and go and do something less boring instead." I think that was the title. It featured ideas of things to do (other than stand on street corners or lob bricks through the youth club window.)

There's irony for you.

Michael. I wouldn't worry. Probably not marketed at your particular sector...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Lapid
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:16 AM

"The couch potato marathon gold medal goes to Britain"


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,theleveller
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:47 AM

I've found that not posting very often on Mudcat gives me more time to watch telly - and for all the other things I love, such as reading, writing, walking and volunteering for the Woodland Trust.

Back in the day, I used to watch television mainly for the commercials, which were mostly far superior to the programmes. Hardly surprising when you consider that it's where some great directors like Alan Parker, Ridley and Tony Scott, Nic Roeg, Richard Loncraine and others learned their craft - to say nothing of the superb British film technicians, editors and sound recordists. Nowadays most of the commercials are rubbish, with one or two gems, and the programmes have also deteriorated (is there a correlation?). Even so, amongst the interminable drivel of reality and talent shows, there are still some programmes I wouldn't want to have missed. It's part of being the well-rounded and well-adjusted person that I am :0


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,theleveller
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:51 AM

"Smartarse ad-agency pundits are taking over the world. Let us UNITE TO DEFEAT THEM, I say..."

I'd like to help but I've pretty much retired from the business.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 04:01 AM

I'm a non-fiction man on the whole, in spite of the bollix that I post here at times

There's an intergalactic lawman by the name of Officer Bolix (wonderfully played by Werner Klemperer) who crops up in Irwin Allen's seminal 60s TV sci-fi Lost in Space (series one, episode 26 (!) : All that Glitters). Just the one L, but the cast have great fun pronouncing it as if it has two throughout.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 04:42 AM

Wilma's mouth tackles Fred and Barney's big bollocks


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 06:30 AM

Musket - My regret remains not owning a monkey butler.

I thought everyone had one nowadays? How do you live without... :-)

Talking of big bollocks reminded to me address GfS's usual shite. I walk in the countryside. A lot. Where I go there is often no mobile signal anyway. I still enjoy the TV. More than ever now due to the plethora of choice via network devices. For some reason or another there are nutters like goofus who think that people who watch TV cannot do anything else.

On mainstream TV I am enjoying -

Endeavour (Just finished. Not going to watch 'Vera')
Jericho
Winterwatch
Midsummer Murders
Death in Paradise

On the net enjoying
Netflix 'Jessica Jones'.
Amazon 'Vikings'
Kodi via Raspberry Pi, any film that takes my fancy and
YouTube 'Have Gun Will Travel' :-)

Still find time to read, play music, enjoy the Grandkids, Walk, work, sleep and all sorts of other things:-)

Enjoy anything and everything - You only live once!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 06:49 AM

I don't watch a great deal of television but the recent airing of Immortal Egypt with Professor Joann Fletcher presenting was superb. Her enthusiasm for the subject is brilliant and possibly contagious. I can't be bothered with soaps, have no interest in the "property porn" am a good enough chef to be able to ignore the cooking shows, (although I do sometimes watch James Martin, again his enthusiasm is worth it) Football and Rugby Sport I will sometimes watch, however if crickets on it is difficult to get me away from the screen.

I dislike television in pubs with a passion. I've never quite figured out how a licensee can have television and a radio or jukebox playing at the same time. Beggars belief in my book. Frankly I can do without either of them. Jukeboxes being the spawn of the devil.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 08:18 AM

Agreed about the Egypt series. It was compelling, and that stuff doesn't usually grab me unless I go/have been there. I've recorded Richard Fortey's series about islands. Must find a spare three hours to watch it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 11:12 AM

Hi Michael

<"All these narrative ads, which seem to consist of a series of random and arbitrary 'happenings' & images, to me frequently add up to no comprehensible content whatever; often I can't even make out what·the·hell product is being 'advertised'!">

Couldn't agree more. I am so glad you posted this: I thought it was only me that had this problem. Thought dementia was setting in.

Cheers

Mike

Ps did anyone see Man City's goal against Everton ??? Oh dear Lines man !!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 12:29 PM

That decision was a horror. The pity is that a goal at that juncture must have had a terrible psychological effect on Everton. When a similar outrage happened to Liverpool the day before, at least the "goal" didn't turn the game. The players and the fans deserve better than these lousy decisions. They pay bloody good money to watch what should be well-run matches and the game is richer than Croesus. Let's have the technology.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:03 PM

Dave the Gnutt: "Talking of big bollocks reminded to me address GfS's usual shite. I walk in the countryside. A lot. Where I go there is often no mobile signal anyway. I still enjoy the TV. More than ever now due to the plethora of choice via network devices. For some reason or another there are nutters like goofus who think that people who watch TV cannot do anything else."

Apparently you must watch a LOT of T.V....enough to not be able to read and comprehend something simple, as suggested in my post...and then you try to interpret it into something else that I was NOT alluding to..(happens all the time with political party minds). What I suggested was to, "... then go home and turn on the tube.
Notice the difference in the peace, and depth of thought, vs jumping into the world of make believe??"

I'm sure you can COMPARE, can't you????....or have you been reduced mentally, of not comprehending either the post, a suggestion, or something that the 'party', didn't indoctrinate you for????

Never mind. Go back to your T.V. and become an expert at being mind numb....and only aware of what reality you've become PROGRAMMED to!!

GfS

P.S. Besides, being 'mind numb' makes for BORING, unimaginative, regurgitated 'music'(?).


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:31 PM

Post in wrong reality for that matter...

Hey Dave! Does your monkey butler do agency work in his spare time? I can only pay peanuts like, but the fringe benefits are ok. I'm used to flinging shit so he could fit right in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:32 PM

... or in other words..

if there's nothing good to watch on the telly, settle back and have a good wank...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 04:59 PM

Hey, MikeL2, another blinding goal from Rooney tonight. Except that the bugger was offside! We deserve better. :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 06:15 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 06:21 AM

Hi Steve

Sorry for hiccup.

Yes it was a great goal. OK just a wee smidgen offside, must have been almost impossible to see that real time.

In fact the third goal too was ever so slightly off side....but hey we need all the luck we can get.

Not a bad game to watch but certainly not a classic.

Right result for us though...

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 06:30 AM

Huh. Man U splutter on... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 11:42 AM

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity - PM
Date: 29 Jan 16 - 03:03 PM

...Apparently you must watch a LOT of T.V....enough to not be able to read and comprehend something simple, as suggested in my post...and then you try to interpret it into something else that I was NOT alluding to... Notice the difference in the peace, and depth of thought, vs jumping into the world of make believe??...


Ahhhh, OK. were you referring to this "peace and depth of thought"

Just THINK(for a change) on how much you think you know.
IE, the peace that you induce with the confrontational "think for a change"?

Or was it the depth of thought that lets you state
how much you think you know...that you got from television, and the accumulation of fictionalized 'facts'!
In other words your assumption that other people all get their information from the TV?

Or maybe it was the fact that you seem to believe that no one who watches TV does anything else? As in
just for an experiment: Go out into the woods, or somewhere in nature, take a long walk,

The whole post was, in summary, the complete and utter shite I had it pegged as in the first place.

I'll tell you what. I'll agree to 'read and comprehend' what you write when you
a) Learn to address people you do not know in a reasonable manner
b) Stop making stupid assumptions and
c) Educate yourself in the correct use of the English language.

If you find that too complicated for your tiny mind I'll make it simple. Fuck off and don't come back until you know how to behave in decent company.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 11:44 AM

Musket, no, sorry. I had to let the monkey go. He had starting reading goofus's posts and was pissing himself laughing all the time...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 01:20 PM

An almost 'nice' try to twist what I posted, but nonetheless a stupid post, Dave....so, I'll accommodate your lack of comprehension one more time.

Compare, that's all, JUST COMPARE, your state of mind, (if you can even remember what that is), with a peaceful walk in the woods, or a natural setting....then when you return to the house, flip on your T.V., and note the difference.

That's ALL...no need to ASS-ume anything beyond that!

Simple....and I'm not attacking you, though you may wish to ASS-ume otherwise!!

There are INSTINCTS, natural to humans, (and most all living creatures on the planet), whose natural instincts are made more prevalent in nature, than those, INDUCED by artificial stimulation.

Why should that be so hard to grasp???

As a side note: This is SUPPOSED to be a forum in which MUSICIANS give their views, and thoughts about various subjects. As a musician, you'd THINK(?) that you'd appreciate the THOUGHT(?) about someone reminding you, as a MUSICIAN, to stay in touch with our inherent instincts, instead of instantly turning a useful SUGGESTION, into some twisted, politically based SPIN SESSION.
OK??

Is that simple enough for you??
If not, see if you can ask a friend to help you understand it...or maybe you can ask your T.V.....

...or maybe take a quiet, peaceful walk in the woods, or a natural setting, and take some time to REFLECT!!

...you might even have a new tune pop into your head.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 01:59 PM

More completely unintelligible gobbledygook. Whatever it is he's on, can I have some please?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 02:08 PM

Perhaps you are over romanticising the state of being instinctive in nature.
Many folks can be very instinctive in front of porn on the TV


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 03:33 PM

Guest, (with obviously understandable reasons), Well you sound pretty well knowledgeable about it..care to share your experiences!

Backwoodsman: "More completely unintelligible gobblygook...(blah blah blah)"

Well, being a 'backwoodsman' I'm sure your comment reflects a certain politically induced dementia, not knowing what I'm talking about!!

I'm sure my post, which seems to have 'disturbed' the local gang of trolls is actually pretty clear. If you have any ability to think and reason, I'm sure you know exactly what I've suggested.
So while you're playing 'dumb' I'm surprised you haven't awakened Greg F. from his under-the-bridge slumber....because 'Guest', Backwoodsman' and 'Dave the Gnutt' are getting absolutely NO traction, pretending to be stupid...Fair enough??

No take your walk in the woods, and avoid suspicious looking bridges.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 04:24 PM

"Well you sound pretty well knowledgeable about it..care to share your experiences!"

Don't know, thanks for the invite, but sitting next to another guy would be a little too uncomfortable ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 04:52 PM

Anyway, where the bloody hell is Musket when you want to crow about Sheffield Wednesday's abject dismissal from the Cup by a lower league team? I can't get no bloody satisfaction...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 05:47 PM

'Guest: "Don't know, thanks for the invite, but sitting next to another guy would be a little too uncomfortable ?"

Why?
Frigid?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 06:46 PM

What do they call it in America ? "circle jerk ???"

the TV set would have to be in the middle, but not everyone would be able to watch it
unless the circle was constantly on the move rotating ?

But maybe that's not so unusual in America ????


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 10:05 PM

Do you think that looking at your computer screen in like watching T.V.??

Enjoy!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,hiloniyut
Date: 30 Jan 16 - 10:49 PM

This forfends what one may call the natural development of the natural man so overlaid with social man.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 07:59 AM

Would be ok for me, in my case, to request that I be overlaid by a social woman?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 08:38 AM

Compare, that's all, JUST COMPARE, your state of mind, (if you can even remember what that is), with a peaceful walk in the woods, or a natural setting....then when you return to the house, flip on your T.V., and note the difference.

Just to please you, goofus. Well, not really I was going anyway. Still, I did 7.5 miles this morning up to Lund's tower and back through Cowling and Lyndhurst woods. State of mind. Relaxed. Happy. Peaceful.

Had a bite to eat then watched the next episode of Jessica Jones. State of mind. Relaxed. Happy. Peaceful. Pretty much like it always is except when I have to put up with some of the complete bollocks on here.

You know nothing about me. State of mind or otherwise. But that does not stop you from making it up. There are words for people that do that. Not sure if fool or idiot is the most apt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: gillymor
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 11:33 AM

Lots of good stuff is available online, Mozart in the Jungle in particular and PBS has archived all kinds of shows like Nova and American Experience.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 06:21 PM

Can't see that ever happening for a while, Steve Shaw ( - ;


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 06:40 PM

You never know. I have experience, a great beard, and I know how to look after people...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,hiloniyut
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 08:30 PM

 Social woman heaven forfend


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 09:46 PM

I'll settle for an antisocial woman then. Jaysus, at my age and in my condition I can't be choosy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 09:54 PM

"I have experience, a great beard, and I know how to look after people"

Excuse me If I'm mistaken, but you wouldn't by any chance be God.. would you ???????


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 16 - 10:06 PM

Women have occasionally said so.




(Mostly when I've been asleep, but hey...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 01 Feb 16 - 04:47 AM

On Occasion I have been mistaken for God, a few times when I have walked into a bar I have heard "Oh god, it's him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Feb 16 - 05:30 AM

Don't. You're gonna get Jim telling us that joke again... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Feb 16 - 05:28 PM

Jessica Jones!?!?!...So who do you like better, Jessica Jones, Batman, Spiderman, Superman? the X-Men? or Gilligan's Island???

I didn't know you had such 'depth'...otherwise I wouldn't have bothered you, by asking you to 'reflect'!!

Never mind.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Feb 16 - 02:26 PM

otherwise I wouldn't have bothered you

Oh please, please, pretty please. I would be more than happy if you were to bother me with anything again. As to which I like best. Mmmm. Not sure, they are all pretty good. The huge difference in the type of fantasy I indulge in and the type that you peddle is that I know mine is made up. You seem to believe yours.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Feb 16 - 03:52 PM

Dave the Gnutt: "The huge difference in the type of fantasy I indulge in and the type that you peddle is that I know mine is made up."

I can tell by your political blatherings.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Feb 16 - 04:08 PM

Ah, got it! I think you are actualy trying to be cleverly insulting. Sorry, failed on both counts. If you want to insult someone, go for it and if you want to be clever, read a book. Oh, sorry, forgot who I was talking to...


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Feb 16 - 06:38 PM

Dave the Gnutt: "Oh, sorry, forgot who I was talking to..."

Perhaps watching too many brain-dead, children's shows have caused dementia to set it.
Perhaps you should seek professional help.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Feb 16 - 07:33 PM

As mudcat feuds go, this one's a bit shite.
Season one was much better scripted and acted.
I have serious doubts this feud will be renewed for another series.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 12:43 AM

though thinking about it, what do I know..
If the network can keep on renewing Vampire Diaries years after it was any good,
even this feud could go on and on for at least 7 seasons, and god knows how many dreadful sequels.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 02:11 AM

Well there! We heard from another avid television fan from the 'Walking Dead' genre. You and Dave the Gnutt, should have your own debates...like, could Superman ever become a vampire??
What next?...Did Dobie Gillis ever make out with Mrs. Beaver Cleaver??

Jez!

Next.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 02:47 AM

Nah, you have still not got it, goofus. I find your feeble efforts quite endearing in some ways. Sort of like like little children trying to emulate their parents.

"Oh, look dear. Little goofus is trying to be clever. Bless him."

You are really too old for it to work though. Just stick to rocking on the front porch and drooling from the corner of your mouth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 03:01 AM

Come on, man, you can do better than that. I thought more of your posse would have ridden in by now.

"Go Rinnie!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 03:02 AM

Dave , that's neither funny nor witty, get a grip.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 04:03 AM

Yeah!!..I mean if you're going to watch THIS screen, instead of watching your favorite 'super hero' on that 'other' screen, ya' gotta be a little more stimulating...you know, like Jessica Jones! hey....have you ever thought of using her panties to make soup???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 04:41 AM

Nah - I don't have a posse. I see that one of your fans has joined in though. Birds of a feather I suppose.

Nice to see you trying to emulate my 'can do better' though. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Although flattery from an idiot is not really anything to shout about. You are still not really getting the hang of this insult game are you? If anyone, apart from you, could understand what making panties into soup actually meant I suspect it may be mildly humourous but as it is, nah.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 08:46 AM

"Panties Soup" a recent short lived American Netflix sitcom concerning 2 aging 'working girls'
a pre op transgender retired construction worker, and a hetero sexual dragqueen, sharing an apartment next door to an extremist evangelical church.

Many a comical moment was promised around the washing machine and back yard clothes line.

I'm not surprised gfs referenced it as he is displaying a very keen knowledge of current trends in US TV.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 09:10 AM

Shame there is no like button on Mudcat!

I would love to see it :-)

Thanks Guest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 09:29 AM

yeah Dave - that was me - couldn't decide if it was worth associating it with the well respected "punkfolkrocker" corporate brand name...???

If Max, Joe, or any admin care to use their media contacts to pitch the show to US cable & networks,
I'd be more than happy to split the proceeds with mudcat...... 😜

I'd might even watch it myself, as long as that dick from "Friends" aint in it...

Could I suggest Mel Gibson as the transgender construction worker....????


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 09:51 AM

HI Dave

I read your earlier post and I have the same kind of choices as to when you watch and what you watch on TV.

One exception is that I like Vera. Watched it on Sunday night and thoroughly enjoyed it.

I think Brenda Blethyn is a great actress. Especially as I read today because she is now 69 years old she is unable to perform her old party trick. I quote " Brenda Blethyn , 69 said she used to be able to balance a pint of beer on her head and pick up a scarf on the floor without spilling a drop".

Surely any man could like a lady who could do that??

At our rugby club we had a guy who used to stand on his head and drink a pint of beer without spilling it. It had to be one of the old dimpled pots.

In that fine Play Mr Banglestein's Boys it showed a guy biting a pint pot and chewing the piece around in his mouth.

This was written by Colin Welland who played local rugby union and was better known in the 60's TV Police Drama Z Cars.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 10:24 AM

Aye - I think Ms Blethyn is a fine actress but it is just something about Vera that I cannot get into. My Geordie mate reckons her accent is not right but that should not bother me, being a Manc! Maybe I should try again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 10:32 AM

...and I knew a lad who's party piece was to down a pint in one and then eat the glass - Apart from the base! He had, as we used to say, no 'clack'. Dunno if he went on to become a circus performer or ended his days in A&E :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 11:03 AM

Hi Dave

We had a guy in our club who had no "clacker".

He didn't eat the glass but was very useful in that silly game called The Boat Race was inevitably played at some point during " drinks after the match".

It was ( and still is) a game of two teams all of whom hold a full pint of beer. The aim is to drink the beer a quickly as you can. The next player cannot start until the previous player finishes.

This player we had could down his pint almost as quick as quick as the eye could see. It was like pouring down a drain. When he played we rarely if ever lost.
"
Those were the days my friend..........."

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Lighter
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 02:15 PM

Regardless of anything else on this thread, everybody with access should be watching the current 12-hour American miniseries of "War and Peace."


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 03:15 PM

The British mini series of War and Peace ain't bad either.

😎


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 Feb 16 - 11:42 PM

Dave the Gnutt: "Nice to see you trying to emulate my 'can do better' though. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Although flattery from an idiot is not really anything to shout about. You are still not really getting the hang of this insult game are you? If anyone, apart from you, could understand what making panties into soup actually meant I suspect it may be mildly humourous but as it is, nah."

Don't flatter yourself with your delusions.........it's even unbecoming!


'Guest': ""Panties Soup" a recent short lived American Netflix sitcom concerning 2 aging 'working girls'
a pre op transgender retired construction worker, and a hetero sexual dragqueen, sharing an apartment next door to an extremist evangelical church.
Many a comical moment was promised around the washing machine and back yard clothes line.
I'm not surprised gfs referenced it as he is displaying a very keen knowledge of current trends in US TV."


Sorry, you're not as hip as you think you are.....the line was used in the 1979, Steve Martin comedy, 'The Jerk', when Steve says that to the father of the girl he was pursuing.

As usual, TV is a bit behind times.
You're just a little slow, and trying too hard to be politically hip.....but reality has it a different way.

....(and I'm being 'polite')

Stay tuned to our next exciting episode......


Next.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Feb 16 - 12:17 AM

.. google the colloquial term 'panty soup'



Steve Martin - He's that old yank banjo player who used to be an intermittently funny comedian...???

"The Jerk" would have been one of his better moments... how long ago was that.....?????

As for being hip.. nah I've never been one for consciously quoting screen comedy highlights...

Had enough of dismal dullards doing that, growing up in the Nation that sired Monty Python and The Young Ones...

How many times can you sit in a pub listening to drunks performing the entire "Parrot" & "Argument" sketches.....😫



Btw... I do realise my limitations as a consistently creative writer.

Which is a self awareness a few of mudcat's more persistently prolific keyboard bashers would be well advised to come to terms with and accept gracefully....


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Feb 16 - 02:57 AM

Don't flatter yourself with your delusions.........it's even unbecoming!

Is that even English?

I must admit now though, goofus. You have beat me. You win. There comes a time when everyone must realise that kicking shit only creates a stink and gets your shoes dirty. I have reached that moment and decided to stop doing it. Good luck down there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Feb 16 - 07:49 PM

I like Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin in Once Upon A Time. Especially when Carlyle is Full-On Rumple, with contact lenses, black fingernails, green face makeup, Commedia dell'Arte body language, and imitating .... who did he say? His six-year-old son's sing-songy voice. (His son who will turn ten years old this year)


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Feb 16 - 02:20 AM

Dave the Gnome: "There comes a time when everyone must realise that kicking shit only creates a stink and gets your shoes dirty. I have reached that moment and decided to stop doing it."

OK....Now on your next walk in the woods, stop, sit down and think..and REFLECT.
I guarantee you that in what might be a moment of deeper thought, and introspection, will be more profound to you, than watching the 'news' covering the political campaigns...Compare those two moments.
That's all.

All the best to you, and Regards!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Feb 16 - 03:46 AM

Thanks GfS. I do reflect very often, meditate regularly (on the last walk was by a flowing stream with nothing but the sound of running water and birdsong. Lovely) and I very rarely, if ever, watch the news. Especially news of anything political. So, to be honest, you are teaching your grandmother to suck eggs. As we seem to be in agreement may I make a suggestion? It is not so much what you say as how you go about it that rubs people up the wrong way. Reflect on how you talk to people on here and you may have your own profound realisation :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Feb 16 - 06:06 AM

I don't read his posts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Feb 16 - 01:37 PM

Guest from Sanity has done something of note, to be sure.
This thread was begun by Good Soldier Schweik whose tendency, whether you approve or disapprove, is to sink his teeth in and hang on, AND on, AND on, with terrier tenacity. We have seen him do it in thread upon thread.
Now Good Soldier Schweik has dusted off his hands and walked away from his very own thread, leaving somebody else to play Mudcat Terrier. I doubted that I would ever see the day, but here it is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Feb 16 - 07:51 PM

Dave: "It is not so much what you say as how you go about it that rubs people up the wrong way. Reflect on how you talk to people on here and you may have your own profound realisation :-)"

I do. It seems that no matter how or what I've posted, certain people on here, for one reason or another are geared to be confrontational... no matter how much good will and truth you throw out there. I believe that is because there is a predisposed disposition of some sort of political nonsensical toxins they have 'ingested'. When they do listen to the 'news', they don't listen to actually LEARN something, but rather reconfirm some notion that was sold to them, whether that notion is true or not...maybe by a 'friend', or whomever, and instead of incorporating something wider that could be useful to gain a greater perspective.
I could give you an example, but if anyone wants to 'follow up' on it I strongly suggest using another thread, because we don't want or need to divert this thread.
Here is ONE example: One the matter of homosexuality, I, and correctly so, disagreed with it being 'genetic', but DID point out that those who felt they were that way from birth, that it came from the formation of the nervous system, from a woman who had emotional issues with her mate, who impregnated her, and being as they share the same body, while forming, set up the receptors, and synapses to respond differently than those who did not. For that, I was labelled a 'homophobic'...and matter of fact, it was YOU who posted an article, completely supporting my position on that, saying, '..that there were OTHER(than genetic) factors' that cause the homosexual orientation. ...How is THAT homophobic????...........(like I said a forehand, we don't need to debate that here, on this thread..so let's not).

Frankly, I'm tired of political parties (BOTH) using lies and disinformation to get everyone emotionally stirred up, to ram another anti-social agenda, down our throats, while not giving a tinker's damn, whether it's true or not. The same is true with financial issues, taxation, foreign policies, (alleged WMD's as a reason to invade Iraq, with an unfunded war, only to bilk the public with astronomical fees, to service the effort, lying to the public about healthcare, while funneling masses of money to insurance corporations for them to profit, and the list goes on and on, 'alternative fuel sources was another.
Sure, we need a reformed healthcare system, sure, we need alternative fuel sources, but we get lied to and bilked and screwed...but the politicians, in bed with their corporate buddies, don't give a flying fuck. It's not been a history of our political systems representing the will of the people, but rather, FORCING the people to adopt fallacious 'remedies' for things that weren't a problem in the first place...other than solving one bit of corruption, with another bit of corruption!!

When you look objectively at it all, YES, it is time to reflect...reflect on what makes us all susceptible to buying into their horseshit, and really how far that is away, from those moments of PEACE, which can also be found, within us all.

As for me, I have not decided on ANY candidate, nor party to support, so I have no axe to grind about any of them, EXCEPT the ones who are fragrantly LYING through their teeth, and deceiving people, who for the most part, are caring people.

Anyway, post is long enough. We can always turn on our T.V.'s and listen to them lie about everything, till we're all so confused, we don't know who's coming and going.

Meanwhile, we can measure, and define the angst, and compose musical portraits that the inner soul of mankind can can identify with, and benefit from.....and do so, HONESTLY!!

GfS

Gfs


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 05:23 AM

I completely agree with you on the point of politicians and their corporate puppet masters and have always said so. As I said earlier, it is not necessarily the content of what you post but the way it is presented. If you cannot get support for what is a good idea then either it is not a good idea, you are asking the wrong people or you are not putting it across well enough. Ask yourself which it is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Kampervan
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 06:15 AM

Thank goodness for 'Benidorm'

One of the few highights on British TV at the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 12:53 PM

I'm old enough to remember television without music videos. Life without music videos, rather. If the television is on, and those videos turn up, it's time to change the channel. The music videos only work for me if the music stands by itself. And a lot of times, the video seems to be the main deal, and the music is little more than a video soundtrack.

I guess music videos have shifted a lot of units in the music business, though, so the almighty dollar has the last word.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 01:21 PM

woof woof, I have gone barking mad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 02:11 PM

keberoxu, How about this??..She's 15, lives 'off the grid', in the Colorado mountains

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 12:20 PM

Woof Woof back atcha. You are a good sport. I apologize if I embarrassed you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 11:55 PM

Today is the day of the big game in America - the Superbowl, where the two top football teams play for the championship.

And all America is buzzing about the most interesting part - the commercials, especially the Budweiser Clydesdale commercial. One woman told a reporter, "I have my kleenex ready."

It's worth going on YouTube to watch them. Your grandkids will like them, too.

Good imagery, good story, not loud and one minute long. That's my kind of television.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Feb 16 - 01:52 AM

Embarrass me???

GfS

P.S. Don't flatter yourself, OK?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: MikeL2
Date: 08 Feb 16 - 10:01 AM

Hi

Yesterday here we had a terrible day for weather. No chance of me and "her indoors" getting outdoors.....so

We watched TV. We watched Bournemouth V Arsenal, then change channel to watch Ireland V Wales in the 6 Nations Rugby Union,

Back to sky to watch Chelsea v Manchester United.

Our sport appetite satisfied we watched Countryfile. Ummmm could smell the fresh air. Then over to watch Vera solve a very delicate and intricate case.

Not fodder to create dinner party conversations perhaps.

We both enjoyed it and it certainly created comments and discussion between us.

Now what's on tonight ??? Weather forecast looks interesting.....lol

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 01:21 PM

Well, over here, soap operas were big for daytime 'entertainment'...but they've evolved....now it's political pundits spouting about polls that are designed to steer the elections!!
.....but it's still has the 'allure and suspense' of a soap opera!!
Frankly, re-runs of 'Black Adder' are far more entertaining!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 01:31 PM

By the way, is Armando Ianucci really all that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 05:00 PM

keberoxu: "By the way, is Armando Ianucci really all that?"

Who knows?...but Ludovico Einaudi IS!!!
Enjoy a bunch of them!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 03:26 PM

Yesterday I learned that jimi Hendrix was a fan of coronation street !


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: Ed T
Date: 10 Feb 16 - 06:26 PM

"Yesterday I learned that jimi Hendrix was a fan of coronation street !"

Well, he did do alot of drugs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 Feb 16 - 05:59 PM

Hillary is a fan of coronation street!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Television
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 Feb 16 - 06:33 PM

THIS is something a bit more genuine..for Television...she's musically hot!!

GfS


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