'Star-Spangled Banner' /Rule Britannia ,

Subject: 'Star-Spangled Banner' /Rule Britannia ,
From: GUEST,mayomick
Date: 27 Feb 16 - 10:43 AM

Is it only me who hears similarities in the airs used for the two patriotic songs?
According to wiki, the Star-Spangled Banner tune was based on John Stafford Smith's air for "The Anacreontic Song ", the official song of the Anacreontic Society ( an 18th-century gentlemen's club of amateur musicians named after the 6 century BC Greek court poet Anacreon).

The Anacreontic Song's tune was later used by writers as a setting for patriotic lyrics. The song became popular in Britain and also America following the establishment of several Anacreontic Societies there.

Subject: RE: 'Star-Spangled Banner' /Rule Britannia ,
From: leeneia
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 09:30 AM

I just refreshed my memory on both tunes, and I don't hear any similarity, Mick. Sorry

Subject: RE: 'Star-Spangled Banner' /Rule Britannia ,
From: Western Trails
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 12:41 PM

I do not hear any similarities either.

Subject: RE: 'Star-Spangled Banner' /Rule Britannia ,
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 28 Feb 16 - 03:35 PM

'Star-Spangled Banner' is in 3/4 time. 'Rule Britannia' is in 4/4 time. They are both patriotic songs - beyond that, I don't see or hear any link.

DC

Subject: RE: 'Star-Spangled Banner' /Rule Britannia ,
From: GUEST,Doris Day
Date: 03 Mar 16 - 10:26 AM

They are both obviously tunes that were written before the words so there are similarities in the dynamics - short words are elongated and long words sometimes staccatoed

Both very difficult to sing

I had number one hits in Norway with both

Subject: RE: 'Star-Spangled Banner' /Rule Britannia ,
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 03 Mar 16 - 01:25 PM

I always thought that the poem "Rule Britannia" was written first then it was put to music by Arne!

Subject: RE: 'Star-Spangled Banner' /Rule Britannia ,
From: GUEST,Arne
Date: 06 Mar 16 - 09:47 AM

It was but I stole/adapted a folk tune - us composers are gits too