BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 07:31 AM

Why should a bog roll should come unravelled if placed one way and not the other. Clockwise or anticlockwise the weight of the paper is still the same. Can anyone explain if this does happen and if so why.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 07:54 AM

I have no children of my own. But several parent friends have said that small children tend to unravel the roll when it faces forward, but not when reversed. Not sure why the latter procedure should defy gravity more than its converse, as Raggy enquires above; would simply state that pragmatically that is what seems to be the case.

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Isn't Mudcat just ever the medium for discussing questions of ☯-shattering moment...!

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 09:19 AM

Speaking of bog paper, yesterday I obtained a free copy of the Daily Mail. Even better, it had an eight-page pull-out supplement about the Queen. I consider myself well supplied.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,mayomick
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 02:18 PM

If I wanted to turn left in the middle of the Gobi desert I would first indicate

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 02:27 PM

Thanks Mayomick, that one made me giggle although I would suggest that's conditioning or training and not irrational per se.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: BobL
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 02:19 AM

Try an advanced driving course - it's the sort of thing you get trained not to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 03:51 AM

You obtained a free copy of The D*ily M*il Steve? 😱

I hope you reported it to the police?

As doing anything is preferable to doing what you should be, I've just checked the house. Five toilets. Three rolls to the back, two to the front. The front ones being the two my responsible adult would make use of. The others put there by the cleaner.

Conclusion? I rest my case.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Thompson
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 04:31 AM

I'd imagine (though I've no intention of trying it, in my own toilet, anyway) that the childhood pleasure of putting a small bundle of loo roll (still attached to the roll) into the toilet, standing clear and flushing, and watching the roll unreel itself as it's all pulled down by the flushing water, works better with the roll rolled out to the front.

Getting back to routines generally, I'm a fan of what Seinfeld calls the Streak, where you keep yourself honest in terms of some piece of work you need to do daily by putting an X across the day on the calendar if you've worked; the chain of Xes is very motivating. I use a gold Sharpie and sparkly gold gel.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 05:16 AM

The Daily Mail is free with your Waitrose card as long as you spend at least a fiver. The choice appears to be between the Telegraph (never so much as held a copy - what is it?) The Times, the Daily Mail or The Guardian. I get the latter anyway so I thought I might as well do the nation the tiny service of removing one copy of the Mail from circulation.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 06:18 AM

Don't worry mate, the thread is all about being irrational.....

We had visitors the other weekend and they bought a copy when we walked down to the post office. (I know, and under our roof eh?)

With all what is going on in the world, including its problems and actual news, the front of the thing had a headline saying Blair let in millions and millions of scrounging immigrants and above that was an advert for readers to win one of Th*tcher's handbags.

There again, I buy Viz. None of us perfect eh? (At least Viz is about the real world.....)

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Thompson
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 06:38 AM

But does it remove it from circulation? Surely it gives them evidence to present to their paying advertisers that another copy (estimated readership per copy: 5) is in circulation.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 06:50 AM

Removing the copy from Waitrose may be the lesser of two evils though. I'll just nip over to that other thread and ask Joe and Keith...

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 07:00 AM

Considering the ten commandments seem to be a misprint according to Keith, good luck with interpreting some thing as holy and pious as The Daily M*il...

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 07:03 AM

Do you guys actually *enjoy* being such a parcel of selfrighteous·lefty·prigs

— or is it just some sort of frightful but irresistible compulsion you can't fight?

— which would of course bring it well within the parameters of this well-took-off thread of mine!

Just asking.

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Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 07:26 AM

The same question could well be asked of you Michael.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 07:30 AM

Lefty?

Moi!

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 08:26 AM

"Do you guys actually *enjoy* being such a parcel of selfrighteous·lefty·prigs

— or is it just some sort of frightful but irresistible compulsion you can't fight?

— which would of course bring it well within the parameters of this well-took-off thread of mine!

Just asking.

≈M≈"

Ahah! A Daily Mail reader!

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 10:09 AM

i may have a problem with my number thing. i always choose an odd number rather than an even . i won't get out of bed at eg. 8.04 and would need to wait a minute, while feeling slightly cross with myself for missing the optimum time of 7.59. listening to music i have volume 5 or 7 etc etc. anyway i had an eye test yesterday and the optician asked a series of questions 'which is the sharper image -number 3 or 4?.....5 or 6?.....7 or 8? i found it difficult to answer with the even numbers and even answered 'not sure' on a couple of occasions when really the answer was (not very)clearly another even.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 11:02 AM

Lefty? I'm no southpaw.

As I recall, Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse's Self Righteous Brothers were nearer to Michael's outlook on life.

"But if those Muslims come trying to get through our cousin's fence looking for work, I'd say Oy! ayrab! No! You may have been here before 1948 with your different lifestyle to ours but when nurse hears my ... Oh. Nurse, I've got over excited again... Any fresh Jim jams?"

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 11:08 AM

No, sorry Steve, wrong! I used to read the Mail for a while back in the 50s for Wally Fawkes' brilliant 'Rufus' [later renamed 'Flook'] strip, but never bought it -- it would be in college reading room or such that I would read it. But my regular papers over the years have fluctuated between The Guardian, for which I wrote regular E.Anglian theatre & folk reviews for ¼C or so, & The Times, whose degeneration under Charlie Gorbals & subsequently I much deplore, but whose crossword, as a dedicated lifelong cruciverbalist, I have always preferred. At one time, before early retirement, I even afforded both.

Might be of driftish interest to know that Maurice Rosenbaum, the Daily Telegraph's long time folk critic, was a member of the Communist Party, while I, as will be patent to my regular readers, er, wasn't. At one Cambridge Fest when he was there for Tele & I for the Gdn, we gravely agreed that if there was any sense or justice in the world, we'd simply swap papers; but alas that is not the way the world is constituted!

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Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 11:13 AM

... but my point was, that I do always find so rebarbative, the way that leftwing oriented people will always sound off in that tone, and with that air, of somehow having the monopoly of all the virtue that exists in this sad old world, while the rest of us must be consigned to Outer Darkness for not sharing in their oh·so·virtuous weltanschauung.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 11:15 AM

Not bothering to read Muskibumz's facetiousnesses at the moment...

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 11:34 AM

But as the left campaign for more fairness and for redistribution, and the right deal in privilege and self-interest, how can it be any other way?

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 12:05 PM

Don't get me started, please, on how the left theoretically motivated by love for all mankind, which somehow nevertheless always appears to find its expression in the most peculiarly hate-filled of apostrophe to such who do not chance to share their shibboleths of 'redistribution' & [what they regard as] 'fairness'... Trouble is that leftwing governments always contrive to blow it by finding no other means of remaining in power than killing off the opposition...

That'll do. Told you not to get me started, innit...!

But IMO it'd bloody better be {to adopt & adapt your own useful formulation} "any other way".

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Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 12:14 PM

Steve, I disagree very much with your comments about both right and left. Not all of those to right of centre are motivated by self interest, nor are all of those on the left dedicated to fairness..I have seen some very ugly "left wings`responses to many issues, including freedom of speech.
   I think there are very few people who are stridently one or the other.
    Your above observations go some way to proving Michaels point.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 12:52 PM

I was winding the old right-wing reprobate up, that's all. You don't really think I see the world in such simplistic terms, do you? :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 12:56 PM

Well, Steve, I had hoped not.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 01:32 PM

Of course you do, you witless little lefty booby, you! Subtlety is unknown to leftibumz...

Tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock....

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 02:23 PM

Got him... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 02:28 PM

Sez-U, Bumface! .... ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 02:36 PM

Excuse ME!!!

Bum face is your pillow talk name for me, you two timing old goat.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: gnu
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 03:57 PM

Some like to turn fun and interesting threads or any other threads into topics other than intended in the OP (see above). Is it a habit? Is it a troll thing? Whatever, it's not only irrational and otiose but requireD some, and by some, as many know, ME, to go absolutely Wildebeeste in a 'likewise' fashion. I couldn't help it. Especially if someone tried to hijack MY thread or crap on my friends in whatever manner without cause. But, I was cured... well it may happen again... by one of the mods. She said, and I paraphrase, "Would you fuck off with that? They are trolls. Don't feed the trolls." Mind you, it took me a while, nay, years, to simply ignore trolls because I also have another habit and that habit is being polite but never allowing others to be rude without being backed the fuck up.

Nowadays, I just don't say much or start threads much. It's a good habit.

P.S. Swipe rolls MUST feed AWAY from the wall. This is not a habit. It's common sense. See above. WTF do you not get about that shit?

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 04:21 PM

...... I've just checked the house. Five toilets. ......

Five ???   What size of family do you have that needs a house with 5 toilets?


Three rolls to the back, two to the front. The front ones being the two my responsible adult would make use of. The others put there by the cleaner.

Conclusion?

The cleaner should be given training in the correct way to install toilet rolls or should be replaced by one who knows how to do the job properly.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 05:07 PM

Sorry, Popgun-presh·presh: but never promised you my very whole & exclusive ❤.

Why, what would my wife say!?

≈x·M·x≈

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 05:48 PM

When my best friend farts, he always says, " that smells fairly decent".
It does not smell that "decent" to me.
Could it be a matter of different perspectives?
Or, could my senses be really off?

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 06:02 PM

I find this "bum-face" thing quite intriguing. There are some ineffably beautiful bums, usually clad in tight denim and subjected to wonderful deportment, all round Bude, even in winter. If my face was as beautiful and slinky as some of those delectable, peachy, silky-skinned bums, Michael (and I've seen a few), I'd be well happy. Incidentally, skinny is good, but so is nice cover. Now if you said scrotum-face I might not be quite so accommodating...

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 01:55 AM

There are only two of us in the house, Doug. Although we do consume ample fibre in our diet...   The cleaner needs no training, I'm with her on this one. She's well trained anyway. Brings me continuous cuppas when our paths collide.

Which is more than Michael ever does... Or his lazy nurse.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Thompson
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 01:57 AM

I wish Musket and MGM Lion would get a room. They obviously have deeply important and intimate things they need to talk about together.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 03:05 AM

Do I detect a note of jealousy there?

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 03:15 AM

There are three of us in this relationship and I'm not the one who gets to bed bath him.

Anyway, he says he never reads my posts, which I'm cool about because I never used to read his reviews. Colin Irwin wrote of the soundtrack to my youth.

Oh, just realised one of my habits. Winding silly old men up just to get a reaction.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 04:12 AM

I sometimes read your posts, Poppy. Often good-4-a-laff. Free country innit.

Tick-tock.....

Ah, dear old Colin Irwin. He was wind·up-able if anyone; once spent an entire full-page Melody Maker column attacking one of my Guardian reviews. Never so flattered in all my puff. Nice guy socially iirc; spent pleasant evening drinking & rapping with him and a few others at the pre-First Edinburgh Folk Festival press launch, I recall.

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Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 04:29 AM

Oh, just realised one of my habits. Winding silly old men up just to get a reaction.

This is from one of the group who resort to deliberate confusion because they say you should attack the argument, not the person. Your childish and oft-repeated jibes do you, or the other members of Team Musket, no credit.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 07:12 AM

Well said Sir!

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 07:50 AM

Correct Doug. Well said, other than the bit about the pet worm agreeing with you, for which you have my sympathies.

Address the topic every time. Just like I do. Just like Musket does and come to think about it, presumably Musket too. (I have no idea usually which of the other Muskets is posting. It's fun answering for them though. Kind of a double wind up if you get my drift which you obviously don't.)

Snag is, you see, and Akenhateon chipping in serves my point admirably, the topic tends to get lost.

Then it's time to wind up silly old sods who post the most outrageous claptrap. Some of them actually believe their own bullshit you know. Fascinating.

I have myself a little list
It seems that Chadwick is the one I missed

On the other hand, I don't try to get a reaction from the worm. I just read with dismay when he posts. At long last though, the moderators see bigotry for what it is. Don't encourage him, he gets threads closed you know...

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 09:23 AM

Poor old Popguns. How pathetic, when you come to think of it, to spend all that time self-presenting as professional ɷ-holes just to get a reaction. Mustn't mock; so let's all pity the poor little dears...

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Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 10:03 AM

Chalk another up.

Too easy really.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,MikeL2
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 11:26 AM

Hi To try to get somewhere close to the original thread:-

I always sleep on the left side of the bed.

It started when I was very young and my younger brother and I slept two in the bed after baby sister turned up.

I had the left-hand side because as the elder brother I could reach the light switch which was on the left of the room.

I have since then always slept on the left ( even when sleeping alone).

I still do it whether we are at home or away on holiday etc.

I wonder if this is why my politics are of the left.....??

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 11:37 AM

... and now the Popguns just have to have the last word. Just like everybody's mother-in-law innit.

Chalk another up.
Too easy really.

Whorrr! Cor! Wowzer! The brilliance! The inspiration! The earthshattering dooferus!


As I said B4

Howper-thetic!

☺☺☺〠〠〠☹☹☹

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 01:33 PM

Michael, not for the first time I cannot help but think Pot, Kettle, Black.

If you really want to minimise such comments perhaps you should refrain from them yourself.

Just an idea, me old cock sparrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Irrational or otiose habits & routines
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 02:15 PM

You're getting a bit repetitive yr dear old self, Raggy, for that matter. See my reply to yr last such [similarly ill-judged & misplaced] comment:- 09 mar 0730am.

I daresay you mean well; tho what you may possibly imagine to be yr qualifctns to sit in judgment on my chosen courses of action...!