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Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs

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Subject: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Severn
Date: 07 Mar 16 - 06:02 PM

A friend of mine is doing research for a project/presentation that he wants to do and needs to find Naval songs from WW1 and asked me to help him find some. Is there anyone among you that could help steer me to some? US or UK. Thanks in advance.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 07 Mar 16 - 07:28 PM

I used to sing "Destroyer Life" till I realized it had mostly been written by John Jacob Niles and Doug Moore after the war. That may not deter you.

The best lines are

It's roll and toss and pound and pitch
And creak and grown you son of a bitch,
Oh boy, it's a hell of a life on a destroyer!

There are couple of other, similar songs in "Songs My Mother Never Taught Me," by Niles, Moore, and USMC cartoonist Wally Walgren (1929).

There was also a Royal Navy song about the base at Scapa Flow, to the tune of "A Little Bit of Heaven."

If you're into the truly bawdy, there's the amusing "The Sailor's Wives," beginning, "Then up and spoke the Captain's wife,/ And she was dressed in blue..."

It antedates WW1, however.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: GUEST,#
Date: 07 Mar 16 - 09:11 PM

info@navysong.co.uk

Severn, the person/people at that email have been collecting Navy songs/ditties/etc for quite a while. I think a message to them might prove to be fruitful.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 05:09 PM

Thank you #, I'll check it out.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: GUEST,Severn
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 05:12 PM

That was me.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Teribus
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 05:31 PM

There was one that was a supposed conversation between Sir Francis Drake and Horatio Nelson as they looked down on the Navy of 1914, that I once heard many years ago and I can only remember snatches of it.

"What hearest thou Sir Francis
I hear thin wires a-speakin'
What see you now Lord Nelson
I see great lights a flashin'
They are fighting in the heavens
They're at war beneath the sea
Aye their ways are mighty different
From the ways of you and me"


Lots missing then

"Three leagues that shot hath carried
Lord that that could ever be
It's clear to me Lord Nelson
They have done with you and me

Look one more time Sir Francis
I see the flags a flappin'
Hark once again Sir Francis
I hear the sticks a-tappin'
It's a sight that calls us hither
And a sound that bids us come
For it's my old Trafalgar Signal
It's the beating of my drum

Are you ready good Sir Francis
See they wait upon the quay
Praise be to God Lord Nelson
They remember you and me


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 08:48 AM

Teribus' poem is "Called Up," by Dudley Clark, published in the _Times_ of London, October 21, 1914.

I can post the complete original, if anyone is interested.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Ian
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 03:05 AM

As a guess I would think they would be singing 'Modern' of the time, songs. ie songs from the music halls. They would also sing songs that had been passed down by older members of the crews. I know that in WW2 sailors were singing recent, music hall and traditional shanties.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Long Firm Freddie
Date: 11 Mar 16 - 02:14 AM

This looks promising:

Navy-Themed Sheet Music of the WWI Era (1914-1919)

LFF


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Charmion
Date: 11 Mar 16 - 05:25 PM

My father knew an RN version of "They're Moving Father's Bones to Build a Sewer" that probably dated from about 1918.

There was also the following ditty, most likely sung to a music-hall tune (Dad was tone-deaf), which can be dated to the tag-end of the Great War by the slang -- Jago's Mansion was Portsmouth Naval Barracks.

"I was walking through the Dockyard in a panic,
When I met a matelot old and grey.
On his back he had his kitbag and his hammock,
And this is what I heard him say.

"I wonder, yes I wonder,
Has the Jossman made a blunder,
When he made this draft chit out for me,
I've been a barrack stanchion,
The pride of Jago's mansion,
And I do not want to go to sea.

"Oh I like my tiddy oggie ,
And I like my figgy duff,
And I always say good morning to the Chief.
(Chorus, very loud: GOOD MORNING, CHIEF)
Oh, I wonder, yes I wonder,
Has the Joss-man made a blunder,
When he made this draft chit out for me."

Another variant:

"I was wand'ring through the Dockyard bright and early,
When I met a sailor old and grey.
On his back he bore his bag and hammock,
And this is what I heard him say:

"Oh, I wonder, yes, I wonder if the Jaunty made a blunder
When he sent this draft chit down to me.
I've been a barracks stanchion in the house of Jago's mansion,
And I do not want to go to sea."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Mar 16 - 04:09 AM

Cyril Tawney gives a version of that song in his collection of naval songs from his era.
I have it somewhere. Bear with.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Mar 16 - 07:03 AM

Cyril says that it was well known with many versions, but says it was written in the 1920s by a John Bush.
He gives some songs about coaling that could date from WW1.

The 100th anniversary of Jutland is in May.
I know of no contemporary songs, but at least two modern songs in the forum.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Mar 16 - 08:03 AM

Cyril gives these songs from WW1.
I will transpose if anyone wants.

Dardanelles Patrol Song, Battle of the Falkland Islands, The Noble Eighth of December, Harwich Naval Force Song, Never Mind, and We're Looking for the Kaiser.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 15 Mar 16 - 06:19 AM

Sevem, you asked for lyrics of WW1 naval songs US or UK.
I offered you several.
Are you not interested after all?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: GUEST,Severn
Date: 15 Mar 16 - 06:33 PM

Still very much interested, thanks. I'm seeking them out for a friend doing a project, though I'll probably learn a few for my own use. I am very interested, so please keep them coming. I'll try to get a copy of my friend's presentation when he puts it together. A friend borrowed my old Cyril Tawney tapes and is getting them back to me, and hopefully, they'll have some of those songs mentioned on them.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: GUEST,JenBurdoo
Date: 16 Mar 16 - 09:17 AM

Just discovered the following website while searching for folk music in Gibraltar. It's mostly fragments and mostly dirty, but it's all Royal Navy material largely collected from veterans. There are a few WWI ditties in there.


http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/navysong/homepage.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: World War One Naval Songs
From: Ged Fox
Date: 16 Mar 16 - 09:25 AM

There may be a gap between what was written in WW1 and what sailors actually sang.

A quick glance through "Naval Occasions" a 1914 collection of sketches of naval life, includes reference to the singing of "comic songs," Kipling's Recessional, "Spanish Ladies," "Sailors Wives" as mentioned above, and "I know of two bright eyes."

"
I KNOW OF TWO BRIGHT EYES - Clutsam

I know of two bright eyes watching for me,
I know of two white arms waiting for me,
I know of cheeks that bum
To greet me when I return.
Oh, Myra! Oh, Myra, I soon will come to thee!

I know a tender heart weeping for me,
I know of two red lips praying for me,

I know a paradise,

A haven from tears and sighs.
Oh, Myra! Oh, Myra, I soon will come to thee!

Victor Record 18021
Copyright 1901 by Hatfield & Co., London, England"


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