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Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?

JenBurdoo 08 Mar 16 - 01:10 PM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 08 Mar 16 - 02:47 PM
Airymouse 08 Mar 16 - 04:47 PM
GUEST,Peter Laban 08 Mar 16 - 05:22 PM
GUEST,leeneia 08 Mar 16 - 06:36 PM
GUEST,leeneia 08 Mar 16 - 07:14 PM
JenBurdoo 08 Mar 16 - 11:09 PM
Thompson 09 Mar 16 - 03:26 AM
GUEST,sheila 09 Mar 16 - 09:14 AM
Thompson 10 Mar 16 - 07:27 AM
Noreen 10 Mar 16 - 08:23 AM
GUEST,Mg 10 Mar 16 - 11:58 AM
CupOfTea 10 Mar 16 - 03:52 PM
Noreen 10 Mar 16 - 05:04 PM
JenBurdoo 11 Mar 16 - 08:36 AM
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Subject: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: JenBurdoo
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 01:10 PM

I've been learning guitar for a year or so and am much more confident. Playing a lot of folk music now in my storytimes as a children's librarian. I'm planning one for next Thursday -- the catch is I know very few songs that are appropriate for kids. They're all either about rebellion, death, love or all three. Suggestions?

I'm planning on "The Rattling Bog" and "Irish Rover", but I'm having trouble thinking of others. Even most of the Irish children's rhymes I've heard are blatantly anti-British or anti-other-Irish. (Learned from the Clancy Brothers, natch.) I'd like at least one or two more.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 02:47 PM

Some childrens songs e.g. "I'll Tell me Ma" "The Fieldmouse Ball"(less known) and so on, might suit.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: Airymouse
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 04:47 PM

I see you are under some time constraints, but as I understand it Barnes and Noble will sell you a copy of Bill Meek's Moon Penny, which is filled with Irish children's songs, for $5.97 plus shipping. One I learned from that book is "Sir Roger is Dead." I suppose it's about death, but more in the spirit of an apparition, and quite cheerful. It's a variant of "Oliver Cromwell is Dead," but has no reference to Cromwell or any other English miscreant.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 05:22 PM

The old Early in the Morning recording is full of children's songs. A friend gave it to us when our son was very young and he sang himself to sleep with it for years.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 06:36 PM

I used to work in a library, too. How long is your program? Half an hour?

First you show them a map of where your home is, then you show them where Ireland is. Point out what oceans are in the way. Then you show them some pictures of what Ireland looks like.

then sing 2 or 3 songs. Bryan O'Linn would be a great one, but it needs pictures of old-fashioned outfits. For example, when Bryan uses a turnip for a watch, the children have to see a picture of fat old pocket watch first.

http://ingeb.org/songs/brianoli.html

Rattling bob is a good one, too. Then close with "When Irish Eyes are Smiling." Smile when you sing it. Everybody sings it like it's a dirge.

Of course, bring some books in and urge the kids to check them out.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 07:14 PM

How about one of the many versions of "Paddy on the Railway".
The one I know best starts

in 1841 I put my corduroy breeches on,
I put my corduroy breeches on,
to work upon the railway.

Fiddle-dee, oorie, oorie ay,
Fiddle-dee, oorie, oorie oh
Fiddle-dee, oorie, oorie ay,
to work upon the railway.

It has the advantage that the kids can join the chorus.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: JenBurdoo
Date: 08 Mar 16 - 11:09 PM

Pat Works On the Railway is a great idea! Pass out two spoons per kid and they can play along as well as sing. Hm, we do have some "clapping sticks."

Thanks for the suggestion of Early in the Morning - I found some of the tracks on Rhapsody and the track listing is useful. I think Paper of Pins may work as well, especially if I can talk a coworker into singing it with me as a duet... and I'll Tell Me Ma would be good too.

I have two picture books: St Patrick's Day in the Morning by Eve Bunting and Jan Brett, and Dear Old Donegal, illustrated by John O'Brien (too intricate for me to play and sing though). Another I'm considering is Over the Hills and Far Away, the nursery rhyme version of which I've found as a charming animal-character picture book.

The basic plan is:

Song
Book
Song
Craft -- depending on age, either paper clovers (Cut out three or four green hearts and connect at the points) or Celtic knotwork (which I've learned a fairly easy method for).

Extra songs and books to taste. I'm definitely leaning toward Rattling Bog and Paddy on the Railway as they're both participatory, but anything with a repetitive chorus ought to do. I've been playing This Old Man recently; the kids may not know it at first but their parents often do, and by the time we get to ten everyone is singing along with the refrain.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: Thompson
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 03:26 AM

A couple of verses of Rocky Road to Dublin? As I Roved Out? Rocks of Bawn?

If you don't think it's too "blatantly anti-English", The Foggy Dew?


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: GUEST,sheila
Date: 09 Mar 16 - 09:14 AM

1) Harrigan

2 Cockles and Mussels


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: Thompson
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 07:27 AM

The Irish song that was historically taught in schools all over the world is The Last Rose of Summer.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 08:23 AM

Tha Little Red Fox is good for kiddies- a story and lots of animals 😊

I wouldn't use Brian O'Linn or When Irish Eyes are Smiling unless you want to perpetuate a stage Oirish image of Ireland.

Re the craft activity, it is shamrock that is Irish (not clover) and it has three leaflets per leaf, hence St Patrick using it as a teaching aid for the Trinity (allegedly!)

Have fun 😊


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: GUEST,Mg
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 11:58 AM

Stage Irish or part of a cluster of songs sung by Irish Americans in their homes and church halls and local pubs? Songs they loved and sang with their children and grandchildren as they ate ice cream with shamrocks embedded...songs include mcnamaras band, Kerry dancers, flora loora lora..dear old Donegal..songs sung by bing Crosby and. Johnmccormick. The old songs by and large did not make the Atlantic voyage. So we make do with the songs from tin pan alley written by Jews and Germans,which is fine.and we putup with snark from Irish Irish and snobby musicians..I would never ever tell a nkorwegion what to so g on sytende mai Oran Italian for Columbus day....the day has long enriched for me.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: CupOfTea
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 03:52 PM

"the Fox" is a great one for teaching kids how to pick up on how to join in on a refrain. A wee one I took care of would go about singing "town-o, town-o" for months after first exposure.It's a tad late to learn it for this year, and hardly traditional, but I first heard this from a Dubliner. From the DT:
   
SAINT BRENDAN'S VOYAGE
(Jimmie Driftwood)

When I was a lad on the Emerald Isle,
I heard many stories both lovely and wild.
About the great dragons and monsters that be,
That swallow the ships as they sail on the sea.
'Tho I was an artist with canvas and paints,
I sailed with Saint Brendan and his jolly saints.
We told the good people, "Goodbye for a while,"
We sailed for Saint Brendan's fair isle, fair isle,
We sailed for Saint Brendan's fair isle.

When we had been sailing for ninety-four days,
We came to a spot where the sea was ablaze.
Those demons from Hades was dancing with glee,
And burning the sailors alive on the sea.
Then Saint Brendan walked on the festering waves,
He threw all the demons right back to their caves,
And all of the saints bore a heavenly smile,
We sailed for Saint Brendan's fair isle, fair isle,
We sailed for Saint Brendan's fair isle.

One night while the brethren were lying asleep,
A great dragon came up from under the deep.
He thundered and lightninged and made a great din;
He awakened Saint Brendan and all of his men.
The dragon came on with his mouth open wide.
We threw in a cross and the great dragon died.
We skinned him and cooked him and feasted awhile,
We sailed...

At last we came onto that beautiful land.
We all went ashore and we walked on the sand.
We took up our longbows and killed a Zebu.
We roasted it up and had hot barbecue.
And after a while we were singing a song,
We noticed the island was moving along.
We ate and we drank and we rode in high style,
We sailed...

Now Brendan said, "Boys, this is much to my wish!
"We ride on the back of the world's biggest fish!
"Hold fast to the rope that is pulling the ship,
"We'll need it some day if this fish takes a dip!"
We sailed every ocean, we sailed every sea,
We sailed every spot that a sailor could be.
In forty-four days we sailed ten million miles,
We sailed...

@Irish
filename[ STBRENDA
SBK


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Mar 16 - 05:04 PM

LITTLE RED FOX which is an English version of An Maidrin Rua


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: JenBurdoo
Date: 11 Mar 16 - 08:36 AM

CupOfTea's sounds like Fox Went Out on a Chilly Night, which I've heard and have a (Peter Spiers?) book for.

I'm learning "Coulter's Candy" right now - it's Scottish, but I learned it from the Irish Rovers and I wouldn't be surprised if it was sung in Ireland.

At this point I'll be changing library branches for the day due to a stargazing program I'd committed to that no one else wants to try. Since it'll be after DST and in South Florida, there's a good chance I won't be able to run it and can do something musical instead (perhaps throwing in a space filksong or two).

I'm aware of the difference between three-leaf shamrocks and four-leaf clovers, but it's a kiddy craft. If a kid wants to make a five-leaf clover, I won't stop them. And I'd rather try the Celtic knots anyway.

I know St. Brendan's Voyage and a couple other songs about him. Might be a possibility.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: Thompson
Date: 11 Mar 16 - 11:28 AM

Coulter's Candy is sung in Ireland, but very consciously as singing a Scottish song.


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Subject: RE: Children's songs for St. Patrick's Day?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 11 Mar 16 - 04:24 PM

FWIW

"shamrock" is A clover - there are several.

Regards


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